The "I am glad I am not Mackenzie Phillips" thread

WTF

Incest / sex abusers more often than not go for the one who is a little less "pretty" by conventional standards.

maybe schneider was the father

Lotsa sad vid on the oprah site, including hits like "blood on the ceiling" and "there's a buckle on my underwear"

junkies are the most lyingest people ever
also the most-likely-to-have-been-sexually-abused-by-their-parents people ever

I'm glad I have not been "invested" in that band since Cass died.

I can't disagree with her methods because, well, she's lived an entirely different life: in the spotlight. That's what celebrities (and kids of..) do, they are brought up this way. Have a problem? Well, throw it out there. And I guess having to live with such an ugly fucked up experience and having to lie about this, hide it all these years, must fuck ypu up even more. Maybe telling it to the world gives some catharsis. Why not tell the world what a perverted asshole he was. She has little to feel guilty about. Go woman! I hope you find some happiness, cause taking drugs and fucking your dad is just plain sad.

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Bijou Phillips supplied a statement to Winfrey stating that Mackenzie told her about the incestuous relationship with their father when Bijou was 13 but later denied it.

"This news was confusing and also scary, because I'd lived alone with him since I was 3," she said. "[John Phillips] was Mr. Mom, loving and encouraging; the man who raised me would never be capable of such things."

She also questioned why Mackenzie would leave her alone with their father if he'd molested the elder sister.

Still, Bijou Phillips showed signs of measured support.

"I understand Mackenzie's need to come clean, but it hurts because the man in question isn't here to defend himself," she said. "I hope she can come to terms with this and find peace."

Mackenzie Phillips told Winfrey that her family's disbelief and anger saddened her, especially since she and Bijou Phillips have been very close. Phillips recalled the way Bijou immediately came to her aid when she was arrested last year for cocaine and heroin possession.

"I love my baby sister, and I miss having contact with her," Mackenzie said.

"By the time Bijou was living with my father, I felt she was safe. I did take her out of there if I felt like she wasn't being watched properly," she said in her defense.

Phillips Blames Mackenzie For Ruining Her Life

Actress Bijou Phillips has blamed her half-sister Mackenzie for ruining her relationship with their father John.

Mackenzie shocked fans by detailing her 10-year sexual affair with The Mamas & The Papas singer in a new memoir, High on Arrival - and she made headlines last week when she sat down with Oprah Winfrey to talk about the scandal.

But Bijou, John's youngest child, has admitted Mackenzie told her about the alleged romance years ago - and it had a devastating effect on her teenage years, stripping her of her innocence and leaving her wary of her father.

The 29 year old insists it took her years to repair her relationship with the California Dreamin' hitmaker after hearing about the rape allegations.

In a series of messages posted on her Twitter page, Bijou writes, "Exploiting the history of our family and the death of our father John Phillips for the release of a book is disgusting. Allegations of sexual abuse are not only hurtful, but malicious when he is not here to defend himself.

"When I was young my sister told me about this - it ruined my life and my relationship with my father. Up till that point, I was a normal kid. I got good grades, loved my horse, was pretty innocent. I moved out to NYC at 13. Started doing drugs, did not talk to my Dad anymore... I was deeply f**ked up. I'm 29 now, I've talked to everyone who was around during that time, I've asked the hard questions. I do not believe my sister. Our father is many things, this is not one of them. My dad and I made up when I was 20, a year before he died. I'm sad I lost those years with him, and I lost those years at home."

John Phillips died of heart failure in 2001, aged 65.

Up till that point, I was a normal kid. I got good grades, loved my horse, was pretty innocent.

I moved out to NYC at 13. Started doing drugs

polanski bait

WTF I thought Bijou had previously talked about her own damaged relationship with John, and never mentioned Mackenzie had anything to do with it even once. She's just engaging in a little celebrity self-preservation right now.

If she didnt believe her sister why's she saying this ruined her relationship with her dad because she was wary of him/didnt trust him when she found out about the incest?

festen otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imDBK1gW3gI

that movie was one of the better dogme films

"If she didnt believe her sister why's she saying this ruined her relationship with her dad because she was wary of him/didnt trust him when she found out about the incest?"

It's perfectly possible to not believe and have a ruined relationship. Once a seed of doubt has been planted, it's difficult to get rid of it and act as though everything is normal. (Normal being a very strange word; even without the incest, this was a fucked up family.) Personally I... am not saying it isn't true, but I prefer to doubt. It's just so "out there", so deprived, that I prefer to remain naive and not "buy it". But still, if it is indeed true, what an entirely fucked up situation. Not only for the person in question but everyone around it.

sounds like she believed it at first then changed her mind years later

After detailing her 10-year sexual relationship with her father in the 2009 tell-all "High on Arrival," Mackenzie Phillips says she has been abandoned by her famous family.

Mackenzie, whose dad was rock legend John Phillips of the Mamas and the Papas, told the "Today" show's Meredith Vieira that she has encountered a dramatic backlash since telling her story, including being cut off by her former step-mom Michelle Phillips and her step-sisters, singer Chynna and actress Bijou.

"They've all known about it for years, so the family members that come forward and say this isn't true and she's crazy are a textbook case of the way a family reacts to incest within the family," Mackenzie said on "Today" Tuesday morning. "It's been really hard. It's been really hard to not have my sisters and my brothers and my 'wicked ex-stepmother,' with whom I've been really close over the years. But to have them basically just say, 'That's it! We're done with you…'"

Michelle, who was a member of the Mamas and the Papas and was married to John from 1962-1970, has denied Mackenzie's claims, chalking them up to her many years of drug abuse.

"After 35 years with a needle up her arm (including several months while she was pregnant) it's difficult to believe much of her story," Michelle said in a statement. "She has hurt everyone in her family tremendously and apparently feels no guilt or shame in doing it or even how she decided to deal with her… um … memories."

Mackenzie's response?

"Aww Mich. Again, maybe I'm naïve, but I'm an eternal optimist and I certainly didn't expect such vitriol from someone who's expected and thought of as such a classy woman," she told Vieira.

Despite being kept at a distance from her family, the former "One Day at a Time" star has no regrets about sharing her story of survival.

"If I had written it while he was alive, people would have said why didn't you wait until he was dead," she says of the book, which is now out in paperback. "It is my story. I went out of my way not to tell Michelle's story. Or Chynna's. Or Bijou's. Or anybody else's but my own. And now they're still trying to tell stories about me… I love my family. I sit here with open arms, hoping they'll come back into my life.

chalking them up to her many years of drug abuse

Is it just me, or is it mighty damn cold in here all of a sudden?