worst super group ever
would absolutely like to hear Rothers take on Neu! 4 though
― sonderangerbot, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Frusciante's good (Flea, well...) but this box set I'm all about.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I refuse to listen to anything Frusciante's done simply cuz he was in the RHCP which probably isn't fair, but really so what.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
His solo stuff is actually pretty cool! And this is coming from someone that downright despises the Chili Peppers.
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Once on his website, he wrote he was proud of taking more than 1,000 LCD trips
http://www.pctechguide.com/images/57LCD.gif
helluva drug
― am0n, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
His solo albums are totally different. Not that ive heard them much. Who wouldve thought him rejoining RHCP would coincide with their worst ever material though, so i dont blame anyone for wanting to avoid.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.geocities.com/Omegaman_UK/lcd/LCD5.gif
― am0n, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
That live '72 CD goes on way too long, but it does have moments so I would certainly check out the edit. And while I felt burned buying Neu! 4 for $26 in 1994 and getting that mess, once iTunes came along, the 3 or 4 good tracks started coming through
I saw Rother / Frusciante / Klinghoffer in concert in 2005 playing stuff from Rother's solo albums and they nailed it, I was sad they didn't do a live album, this is great news.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
more worried about flea's inclusion than frusciante
― am0n, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
"will release their long-lost album with Brian Eno, Tracks and Traces"
How can this album be long-lost? It was released on CD like a decade ago!
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought it was supposed to be a follow-up to tracks and traces like additional material from those sessions
― am0n, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
wiki: "In September 2009 an extended version of Tracks and Traces will be released by Gronland. The new album features three additional tracks from the Harmonia & Eno ´76 collaboration."
― am0n, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
So three additional long-lost tracks from a album of unreleased sketches. Sounds wonderful.
― Alex in SF, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link
frusciante's great
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't the RHCP put a Harmonia track on a compilation album of influences?
The first few Neu albums aren't exactly hard to get find the last 5 years. I have the first three just picking them up from stores.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
This is all very "He's dead, so now I can do what I like"...
Which may well be better than what was there before, first three albums excepted.
(willing to be proved wrong tho)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 16 September 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm having difficulty imagining the Venn Diagram intersection between RHCP and School of Seven Bells, tbh.
― hypermediocrity (Derelict), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 16 September 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I find this a bit awkward. Re-recording Neu 4, doing some kind of Neu tribute tour, etc.
Anyway, Frusciante is awesome - some people need to get past the whole RHCP thing.
― spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Thursday, 17 September 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I just dug out "Live 72", for the hell of it.
Track one is actually sounding quite nice (four mins in, out of 32), but it's still a 'cassette recording of a practice/jam session' or something like it.
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe if they re-recorded new versions of tracks, rather than patch up some bad recordings, this could be something...
As I said yesterday, I have an open mind about it, but still suspect this will not be ...)
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i saw those first 3 neu albums on vinyl in hmv just the other day
― just sayin, Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
A quick skip on ebay shows loads of copies of "original" UA pressings for buyitnow prices (i.e. very good looking fakes), so theres a market for LP versions I guess.
The EMI reissues are possibly collectable, the true original UA issues are probably not due to all the good fakes.
xpost well there you go.
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Bought Brain pressings a couple of years ago, took me a few months. Vinyl's good on all of them, covers VG I'd say.Love (the mp3's of) Neu!4 in their own quirky way (not La Düsseldorf quirky but still highly entertaining) and am interested as to what Rother will make of that release.I can relate to the doubts expressed in this thread ("He's dead, so now I can do what I like"...) but I also think that because of Dinger's attitude a lot of the stuff that could have been released hasn't. I just hope Rother doesn't add too many "tasteful accents" to the original material... As to the tour - I don't know what to expect from that at all but I'm definitely going if I get a chance.
― willem, Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:02 (fourteen years ago) link
To be honest, if he goes out as "The Neu! Experience" and the band are tied down strongly to the material, it could be seriously awesome.
As MES once sang, "don't start improvising for fucks sake!"
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Either way it sounds like utter bollocks to me. Anyway, Rother is full of it, "Neu 4" is great, OK so a few tracks are superfluous, but it's obvious which tracks those are and if you ignore them and concentrate on the core tracks it's much better than anything Rother was capable of producing on his own in 1986 - I shudder to think how it might have turned out if he'd had his way with it. Viva Klaus!
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:11 (fourteen years ago) link
They are interesting photos. One is actually even quite funny, I can tell you, because it was a spontaneous situation where we tried to shake hands but the hands didn’t meet. I’m smiling at this and Klaus is looking at the camera with a sly look, and it is funny in a way.”
I really, really want to see this.
― Eugene Sander-Rygar (MPx4A), Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3509/3831459404_be09fe3089.jpgIf it's anything like this one...
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 September 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.neu2010.com
Enormous vinyl box set about to drop. Includes, for the first time, Neu! '86.
― anagram, Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Some talk (ppl expressing their doubts about rother's possible "reworking" of the material that makes up Neu! '86) about that 6 months ago. Info from Rother's site, from 02/2010:
Most of all I´m thrilled about the release of the album NEU! ´86 which Klaus Dinger and I originally recorded in 1985/86, but left unfinished back then and which led to some unfortunate problems between Klaus and myself in the 90s. I now completely reworked the album from original multitrack and master tapes, and unearthed a few yet unknown tracks which are essential for a full understanding of what Klaus and I focussed on for NEU! in the mid 80s. It was my aim to present Klaus Dinger´s musical strengths and visions just as much as my own ideas. The best musical result was to be my only guideline, not the ego. All during the emotional process of reworking our album Klaus was on my mind and I contemplated what he would think about my decisions. I was very relieved and moved to hear from his heir, Miki Yui, who contributed many valuable ideas to the making of the box set, that she was pleased with the result presented with the album NEU! ´86."
So I suppose there won't be any tasteful newly recorded additions - looking forward to this, I must say.
Also, more dates for the temporary band he's put together (with Steve Shelley, Benjamin Curtis and Aaron Mullan) - performing Neu!, Harmonia and Rother tracks. Should be fun/great, nothing less!
― willem, Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link
So I suppose there won't be any tasteful newly recorded additions
I hope not, I like it as it is!
― Collectible Spoons of the 3rd Reich (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 April 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link
1971Florian Schneider witnesses Michael Rother´s jam with Ralph Hütter in Kraftwerk´s Kling Klang Studio and invites Rother to join the band after Hütter´s retreat. In the lineup Florian Schneider, Klaus Dinger and Michael Rother Kraftwerk play numerous concerts around Germany. They appear in one radio and two tv shows, i.e. the popular BEAT-CLUB. Schneider, Dinger and Rother perform “Rückstossgondoliero” (released in 2001 on the BEAT-CLUB dvd “Best of ´71”). The recording sessions for the second Kraftwerk album in the lineup Schneider/Dinger/Rother with Conny Plank as co-producer remain unsatisfactory and are terminated half-way through.
I really wish they'd stop mentioning to us how unsatisfactory those sessions were and just KICK DOWN
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Super stoked for those live dates tbh.
― Astley Hunchings (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 1 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Michael Rother is listed as appearing at the Rough Trade East "Record Store Day" celebrations. I would have thought this would lead to the total collapse of Brick Lane and some sort of Fame style jam session in the streets, but it is definitely there in the advertising. Also Laurie Anderson.
― PJ Miller, Thursday, 1 April 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Can Michael Rother just announce the date at the South Bank Centre and get it over with....
I'm desperate to see this after seeing him cut loose with the motorik beat at the Harmonia gig...
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link
boxset now on sale http://www.neu2010-shop.com/content/produktdetail.aspx?a=11284&s=78
4 vinyl LPs & 1 vinyl maxi-single- Original studio albums NEU!, NEU! 2, NEU! '75 and the for the first time, an official release of NEU! '86- NEU! '72 (previously unreleased live maxi-single 20 minutes)- 36-page picturebook & NEU! stencil- Free download code for all albums via www.neu2010.com- Free NEU! t-shirt (one of three designs)
all for an eyewatering €120
― zappi, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
The way the euro is going, that might prove to be the cheaper option..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Um... fuck yeah?
http://70.32.78.35/sonicnews/?p=810
― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 13 May 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Has anyone here bought the boxset?
― Moka, Thursday, 29 July 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
and is neu '84 as bad as everyone says it is?
― ▼__▼ (LOLK), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
'86
it's a bad neu! album, but it's not a bad album, if you get me
― fistal rectitude (electricsound), Thursday, 29 July 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Neu! 4 is awesome (if you like Dingervision and if you don't like Dingervision do you like Neu?) lotsa proto-chillwave and ecstatic synth dance tracx.not sure what Rother did in new vers, I've only heard nineties issue.
― David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Friday, 30 July 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
box-set tracks going cheap on most of the .mp3 stores (F**k Itunes =£35)
I picked it up for £7 from 7digital.com
still working my way through the tracks.
sound a lot clearer than my Astralwerks LPs, was any remastering done?
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 8 August 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
all reviews to date have been kind of useless on the issue of what exactly Rother changed for Neu! 4. can anyone who actually cares about this band and has heard both chime in?
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 8 August 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
apologies if that sounds rude -- there have been well-written reviews but seeing as the sole appeal of this entire box set for fans who've already invested in the earlier version of 'Neu! 4' is Rother's revision, and that there were two or three tolerable tracks on the original version that could have benefited from a remix, it's just frustrating not to be finding anyone discussing the actual changes from the original Captain Trips issues
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 8 August 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll give it a shot:
NEU 41 Nazionale 3:11 2 Crazy 3:15 3 Flying Dutchman 3:56 4 Schöne Welle (Nice Wave) 4:30 5 Wave Naturelle 5:37 6 Good Life (Random - Rough) 3:51 7 86 Commercial Trash 3:18 8 Fly Dutch II 5:06 9 Dänzing 5:08 10 Quick Wave Machinelle 3:46 11 Bush - Drum 3:10 12 La Bomba (Stop Aparthijd World-Wide!) 5:59 13 Good Life 3:42 14 Elanoizan 3:24
NEU 86A1 Intro (Haydn Slo-Mo) 0:33 A2 Dänzing 5:05 A3 Crazy 3:16 A4 Drive (Grundfunken) 5:13 A5 La Bomba (Stop Apartheid World-Wide!) 5:30 A6 Elanoizan 2:32 B1 Wave Mother 4:53 B2 Paradise Walk 5:11 B3 Euphoria 3:59 B4 Vier 1/2 1:02 B5 Good Life 3:42 B6 November 1:43 B7 KD 1:54
Intro is Nazionale cut down to 30 seconds. Danzing and Crazy are the same just remastered. Drive (Grundfunken) is an new track and probably the best thing on it. La Bomba and Elanoizan are shortened versions from Neu 4. Wave Mother is a shortened version of Wave Naturelle. Paradise Walk is a new track. Euphoria is a pitch-correcting, slightly slower and longer version of Quick Wave Machinelle. Vier 1/2 is an edited version of Fly Dutch II. November and KD are new tracks.
― am0n, Sunday, 8 August 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
good life is the same, forgot that one. worth having both but 86 is better imo
― am0n, Sunday, 8 August 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Drive (Grundfunken) is an new track and probably the best thing on it.
thank you, fellow person who actually loves this music & knows their shit as opposed to simply having an opinion
really does sound like it's an improvement overall, actually
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 8 August 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I shouldn't be so snarky! I just really love this band. And I completely understand reviewers who are taking the stance that casually interested listeners might want to pause before investing in this thing, given how peripheral the extra two discs are. At least douglas @ pfm actually seems to have acquired the physical box before reviewing it & engaged with the concept that this is the Rother-Version (and objected to that in and of itself), it's just I can't find a single review that even engages with the fact that the Rother-Versions are considerably musically different, which really is not just esoteric fanboy information
like most people I found the fourth one massively underwhelming in the 90's as a $25 import CD, but in the age of iTunes the 2 or 3 good tracks did start to stick out
― Milton Parker, Sunday, 8 August 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link