Topic one about it:
i was talking to a friend who works in development at mtv and was at the vmas last night, she said that "the outburst wasn't unexpected" but refused to give more details. and some other things that basically hinted that mtv planned the whole thing for attention xfd
That's totally separate from the JayZ employee, but I know that guy personally and he's legit. Here's the Jay-Z employee blabbing away on his own thread:
This was all a huge publicity stunt set up by Jay-Z. MTV wanted him to perform at the end of the show and he said on one condition - they gave Beyonce a performance and made her look good. And so, the whole Taylor Swift fiasco was born. Jay called up Kanye and asked him to do it for him because Kanye doesn't mind being seen as a jackass and it'd be believable if he did it. So when Beyonce let Taylor finish her speech instead of making her own speech, everyone thought "Wow, Beyonce really is a class act!" and Jay-Z finished off the show with his performance.
Jay also did a similar thing with Oprah. He told Oprah that the only way Beyonce would go on her show was if she also allowed Jay on because Oprah never had a rapper on her show before.
Basically, Jay-Z is leveraging his relationship with Beyonce for more fame/recognition and vice versa.
I could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.
Here are the rests of his posts.
lolI could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.
sure do it
Quite simply, look at the featured artists on BP3. He has a large stake in GOOD Music, which is Kanye's label and both Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson are signed to it. Similarly, Roc Nation is his label and J. Cole is signed to it and he was trying to sign Drake to Roc Nation too for around 2 million dollars, but that fell through. Alicia Keys is on it because she's dating Swizz Beatz and Luke Steele is on it for the indie fans (also why Jay was seen at Grizzly Bear with Beyonce).
Blueprint 3 is just Jay-Z's investment plan.
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Taylor Swift was chosen for obvious reasons: She has the country fanbase locked up and was up for a lesser award against Beyonce.
Except for the fact that she loved the idea and happily went along with it.
From: ************* 18 | Posted: 9/14/2009 09:49:15 PMi dont know why kanye would sacrifice his image
Watch the Jay Leno show tonight to understand why. He also doesn't give a fuck.
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From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:18:00 PMhow many cars were in his motorcade? i know the answer, do you?
6, led by Jay in his Maybach iirc
From: ***** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:24:12 PMbut according to ***** (and my friend), it was scripted
afaik, T-Swizzy knew about it, the whole Jay crew knew about it, and the producers knew about it. I don't recall any producers freaking out over it, but that was probably scripted too if they did.
From: ***** X | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:36:45 PMcouldn't it have been just a thing kept between rocknation's people and not having anything to do with MTV at all?
In order for Jay to perform, Beyonce needed to get great publicity. Why do you think Taylor come out with microphone in hand from backstage as if she knew it was gonna happen when Beyonce called on her?
I have no clue what went down at mtv, just the deal Jay struck
From: **** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:54:46 PMDid you see Kanye on Leno? He was dummbbbbfounded. Because that's just the way he is. Jay-Z could have done that but Kanye isn't that good of an actor I don't think.
Also staged to get the sympathy vote and also take a well-deserved vacation.
From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:56:47 PMkanye seemed like he was doing it just to cause a stir, imo.
i don't know if it's been asked, but why would you post all that if you work for them?
We're leaking it to the tabloids anyways for more publicity and for Jay-Z to be seen as a genius.
Everyone wins.
veeeeeeeery interesting.. some more proof of any kind wouldnt hurt though
It should be on MTO in the next few days, I'll make sure to link it if it is.
But it seems they want to play the Jay-Z/Rihanna relationship angle right now because they hate Jay with a passion and always claim Beyonce hates him.
www.mediatakeout.com
Its like Perez Hilton or National Enquirer for black people pretty much.
I feel like a bit of a moron spending ten minutes bringing all that here, but that's it so far. There were some other posts on verifying the guy as a legit employee of Jay-Z but I didn't post that. He posted pictures and all sorts of lame crap, though.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
really doesn't need to be a conspiracy theory explaining this. there needs to be a conspiracy theory to explain any moment kanye west is on live tv and doesn't do something like this.
― iatee, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I love the parallel this whole thing has to pro-wresting, right down to Kanye's outburst working in conjunction with Kanye needing a reason to be out of the spotlight or vacation.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Next album a sort of "Collision Course" but with indie artists lol
― Cunga, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link
But wait, what do the racists think of all this?
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/09/and_now_a_far_l.php
― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link
That thread sounds like dude is totally 100% full of shit. I'd be shocked if it turned out to be true.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:16 (fourteen years ago) link
XP Guys, not everything is racist. (Tho those twitters definitely are.)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq09f4aPQY1qz8rm7o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1253097400&Signature=uhNhmGKEGf414xIbA0TVfk/wumU%3D
― Popture, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link
that is a stupider conspiracy theory than 9/11 truther-ism
― fountain bleaut (s1ocki), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link
seriously
― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:07 (fourteen years ago) link
okay that dude's post made me laff more than this entire thread, kudos!
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i love the idea that they'd leak the whole plan later "for Jay-Z to be seen as a genius"
― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
"Jay called up Kanye and asked him to do it for him because Kanye doesn't mind being seen as a jackass"you had me till hereactually no, you didn't have me
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Kanye was actually hoping the president would call him a jackass! We all played right into his hands!
― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"I hate that n****r. Sorry for the n word."
^^it doesn't work that way, son
― yo gotti gotti! (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahaha
― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Barack Obama doesn't care about jackass people.
― dad a, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link
that whole story sounds ripped from achewood.
so Jay had been irradiating MCA's mint leaves that he pulls from his own private garden to make mojitos for like three months. So when he gets cancer and the Beastie Boys cancel, who's gonna step in to APW just as he needs the publicity to support the new album? Like that was an "accident"?
how many grey hagar slacks does jay own? i know the answer, do you?
seven, 38/35
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Dangermouse had never even HEARD of the Beatles until a teenaged Sean Carter, with the foresight that betrayed him as a future mover and shaker, started sending him reel to reels of Abbey Road and Help! So flash forward to 2003 and Jay's selling well with the Black Album but long-term issue: no real internet presence. Dangermouse makes the Grey Album. BANG. Instant internet sensation.
Dangermouse was totally on board with all this of course
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link
so Jay calls Brett and is like 'Look, I came back a few times myself. Do what you do big man' and Brett is like YEAH MORE FUN. Meanwhile Jay's already got Peterson on lock for a four album deal but only once his football career is over. So Favre implodes the team, Peterson retires early in 2011, drops his first album "28 and First" on Jay's new label and becomes the biggest star in country music.
We're leaking it to Perez Hilton shortly for more publicity; just waiting for Roger Goodell to sign off.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
how does lil mama play into jay-z's web of lies
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
2007: Megan Fox is just about to sign up for her first porno but Jay Z flies in and stops her; tells her she's got "bigger things" to attend to.
Less than three years later, Jay's mint-in-box Transformers collection has quadrupled in value.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
lil mama is the shrink ray afflicted, transgendered Jay Z of the future, come back to warn Jay about the alien invasion. He jumped on stage to pass a data disc into his own pocket with vital information about how to destroy their hive lair.
you'd have to be blind to miss it.
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
forks is not back
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
jay calls whiney to get him to return to ilx just to throw off the scent
how long have you been working for the roc whiney? are there sandwiches involved?
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
I read that as "Jay calls Whitney" -- another important piece of the puzzle.
― Squash weather (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
this thread.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Jay called Obama to tell him to call Kanye that, hoping to score the Washington DC demo.
― Cunga, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
whiney left ilx? i swear i saw posts last month
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, so are the dumb-assed .gifs done? is it safe to come back yet?
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Jay asked whiney to leave, it all ties together.
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, jess, people have stopped posted gifs, you can go back to reading the kanye vs. taylor swift beef thread
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
thank god.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Having images off = nicest thing about being a mod.
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
kanye really doesn't need the internet's help to keep me chuckling, is all.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
incidentally, is there a way as a mod to turn the images on?
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
except for the racist twitter posts. those were good.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, you say "hey images, I really love you ..."
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
No -- except by logging out.
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
what are the racist kanye twitter posts about?
― Brio, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
it seems kanye west is a black man!
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, this guy I knew from high school had an update on Facebook that said:
Jim voted 'Yes' in the "Does Kanye deserve a country ass-whuppin' for what he done did to Taylor?" poll.
― Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oh word? huh, that makes sense...i personally don't see race i only see ppl but his being black could definitely color the debate a bit
― President Emeritus, Fancy Chord Club (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, I get it. are some taylor swift fans talking about his uppitiness or something? i thought you meant kanye was the one being racialist on twitter.
― Brio, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link
and i clearly didn't read the thread. yeesh, never mind.
― Brio, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link
kanye abstains from twitter, he prefers to have unlimited characters for his all-caps rants
― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
as is his wont, being uppity.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
shoulda put "uppity" in quotes there maybe - don't get me wrong
― Brio, Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― both HOOSlarious and truthful (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i want to start using the phrase "country fried ass whuppin" more often
― EVERYBODY WANNA BOOOOO ME BUT I’M A FAN OF REAL POP CULTURE! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 September 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link