Kanye vs. Taylor Swift: Dumbest beef of all time

Topic one about it:

i was talking to a friend who works in development at mtv and was at the vmas last night, she said that "the outburst wasn't unexpected" but refused to give more details. and some other things that basically hinted that mtv planned the whole thing for attention xfd

That's totally separate from the JayZ employee, but I know that guy personally and he's legit. Here's the Jay-Z employee blabbing away on his own thread:

This was all a huge publicity stunt set up by Jay-Z. MTV wanted him to perform at the end of the show and he said on one condition - they gave Beyonce a performance and made her look good. And so, the whole Taylor Swift fiasco was born. Jay called up Kanye and asked him to do it for him because Kanye doesn't mind being seen as a jackass and it'd be believable if he did it. So when Beyonce let Taylor finish her speech instead of making her own speech, everyone thought "Wow, Beyonce really is a class act!" and Jay-Z finished off the show with his performance.

Jay also did a similar thing with Oprah. He told Oprah that the only way Beyonce would go on her show was if she also allowed Jay on because Oprah never had a rapper on her show before.

Basically, Jay-Z is leveraging his relationship with Beyonce for more fame/recognition and vice versa.

I could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.

Here are the rests of his posts.

lol
I could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.

sure do it

Quite simply, look at the featured artists on BP3. He has a large stake in GOOD Music, which is Kanye's label and both Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson are signed to it. Similarly, Roc Nation is his label and J. Cole is signed to it and he was trying to sign Drake to Roc Nation too for around 2 million dollars, but that fell through. Alicia Keys is on it because she's dating Swizz Beatz and Luke Steele is on it for the indie fans (also why Jay was seen at Grizzly Bear with Beyonce).

Blueprint 3 is just Jay-Z's investment plan.

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Taylor Swift was chosen for obvious reasons: She has the country fanbase locked up and was up for a lesser award against Beyonce.

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Except for the fact that she loved the idea and happily went along with it.

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From: ************* 18 | Posted: 9/14/2009 09:49:15 PM
i dont know why kanye would sacrifice his image

Watch the Jay Leno show tonight to understand why. He also doesn't give a fuck.

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From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:18:00 PM
how many cars were in his motorcade? i know the answer, do you?

6, led by Jay in his Maybach iirc

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From: ***** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:24:12 PM
but according to ***** (and my friend), it was scripted

afaik, T-Swizzy knew about it, the whole Jay crew knew about it, and the producers knew about it. I don't recall any producers freaking out over it, but that was probably scripted too if they did.

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From: ***** X | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:36:45 PM
couldn't it have been just a thing kept between rocknation's people and not having anything to do with MTV at all?

In order for Jay to perform, Beyonce needed to get great publicity. Why do you think Taylor come out with microphone in hand from backstage as if she knew it was gonna happen when Beyonce called on her?

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I have no clue what went down at mtv, just the deal Jay struck

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From: **** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:54:46 PM
Did you see Kanye on Leno? He was dummbbbbfounded. Because that's just the way he is. Jay-Z could have done that but Kanye isn't that good of an actor I don't think.

Also staged to get the sympathy vote and also take a well-deserved vacation.

From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:56:47 PM
kanye seemed like he was doing it just to cause a stir, imo.

i don't know if it's been asked, but why would you post all that if you work for them?

We're leaking it to the tabloids anyways for more publicity and for Jay-Z to be seen as a genius.

Everyone wins.

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veeeeeeeery interesting.. some more proof of any kind wouldnt hurt though

It should be on MTO in the next few days, I'll make sure to link it if it is.

But it seems they want to play the Jay-Z/Rihanna relationship angle right now because they hate Jay with a passion and always claim Beyonce hates him.

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www.mediatakeout.com

Its like Perez Hilton or National Enquirer for black people pretty much.

I feel like a bit of a moron spending ten minutes bringing all that here, but that's it so far. There were some other posts on verifying the guy as a legit employee of Jay-Z but I didn't post that. He posted pictures and all sorts of lame crap, though.

really doesn't need to be a conspiracy theory explaining this. there needs to be a conspiracy theory to explain any moment kanye west is on live tv and doesn't do something like this.

I love the parallel this whole thing has to pro-wresting, right down to Kanye's outburst working in conjunction with Kanye needing a reason to be out of the spotlight or vacation.

Next album a sort of "Collision Course" but with indie artists lol

But wait, what do the racists think of all this?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/09/and_now_a_far_l.php

That thread sounds like dude is totally 100% full of shit. I'd be shocked if it turned out to be true.

XP Guys, not everything is racist. (Tho those twitters definitely are.)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq09f4aPQY1qz8rm7o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2&Expires=1253097400&Signature=uhNhmGKEGf414xIbA0TVfk/wumU%3D

that is a stupider conspiracy theory than 9/11 truther-ism

seriously

okay that dude's post made me laff more than this entire thread, kudos!

i love the idea that they'd leak the whole plan later "for Jay-Z to be seen as a genius"

"Jay called up Kanye and asked him to do it for him because Kanye doesn't mind being seen as a jackass"
you had me till here
actually no, you didn't have me

Kanye was actually hoping the president would call him a jackass! We all played right into his hands!

"I hate that n****r. Sorry for the n word."

^^it doesn't work that way, son

hahahaha

Barack Obama doesn't care about jackass people.

that whole story sounds ripped from achewood.

so Jay had been irradiating MCA's mint leaves that he pulls from his own private garden to make mojitos for like three months. So when he gets cancer and the Beastie Boys cancel, who's gonna step in to APW just as he needs the publicity to support the new album? Like that was an "accident"?

how many grey hagar slacks does jay own? i know the answer, do you?

seven, 38/35

Dangermouse had never even HEARD of the Beatles until a teenaged Sean Carter, with the foresight that betrayed him as a future mover and shaker, started sending him reel to reels of Abbey Road and Help! So flash forward to 2003 and Jay's selling well with the Black Album but long-term issue: no real internet presence. Dangermouse makes the Grey Album. BANG. Instant internet sensation.

Dangermouse was totally on board with all this of course

so Jay calls Brett and is like 'Look, I came back a few times myself. Do what you do big man' and Brett is like YEAH MORE FUN. Meanwhile Jay's already got Peterson on lock for a four album deal but only once his football career is over. So Favre implodes the team, Peterson retires early in 2011, drops his first album "28 and First" on Jay's new label and becomes the biggest star in country music.

We're leaking it to Perez Hilton shortly for more publicity; just waiting for Roger Goodell to sign off.

how does lil mama play into jay-z's web of lies

2007: Megan Fox is just about to sign up for her first porno but Jay Z flies in and stops her; tells her she's got "bigger things" to attend to.

Less than three years later, Jay's mint-in-box Transformers collection has quadrupled in value.

lil mama is the shrink ray afflicted, transgendered Jay Z of the future, come back to warn Jay about the alien invasion. He jumped on stage to pass a data disc into his own pocket with vital information about how to destroy their hive lair.

you'd have to be blind to miss it.

forks is not back

jay calls whiney to get him to return to ilx just to throw off the scent

how long have you been working for the roc whiney? are there sandwiches involved?

I read that as "Jay calls Whitney" -- another important piece of the puzzle.

this thread.

Kanye was actually hoping the president would call him a jackass! We all played right into his hands!

Jay called Obama to tell him to call Kanye that, hoping to score the Washington DC demo.

whiney left ilx? i swear i saw posts last month

hey, so are the dumb-assed .gifs done? is it safe to come back yet?

Jay asked whiney to leave, it all ties together.

yes, jess, people have stopped posted gifs, you can go back to reading the kanye vs. taylor swift beef thread

thank god.

Having images off = nicest thing about being a mod.

kanye really doesn't need the internet's help to keep me chuckling, is all.

incidentally, is there a way as a mod to turn the images on?

except for the racist twitter posts. those were good.

Yeah, you say "hey images, I really love you ..."

No -- except by logging out.

what are the racist kanye twitter posts about?

it seems kanye west is a black man!

Oh yeah, this guy I knew from high school had an update on Facebook that said:

Jim voted 'Yes' in the "Does Kanye deserve a country ass-whuppin' for what he done did to Taylor?" poll.

it seems kanye west is a black man!

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh word? huh, that makes sense...i personally don't see race i only see ppl but his being black could definitely color the debate a bit

oh, I get it. are some taylor swift fans talking about his uppitiness or something? i thought you meant kanye was the one being racialist on twitter.

and i clearly didn't read the thread. yeesh, never mind.

kanye abstains from twitter, he prefers to have unlimited characters for his all-caps rants

as is his wont, being uppity.

shoulda put "uppity" in quotes there maybe - don't get me wrong

lol

i want to start using the phrase "country fried ass whuppin" more often