Carl's still president over at the bank, ain't he?
― ian, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
What's that Ashley opera set at the airport, with the couple who've had the fight in Mexico or wherever and they're both leaving, and the voices are all treated? I sort of regret not buying that when I saw it used, now.
― bamcquern, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think that one is "Improvement (Don Leaves Linda)" maybe? I'm not super familiar with it tbh.
― ian, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, Don Leaves Linda. Not sure what the hang up at the listening station was. It's weird when art hooks you long after you've rejected it. I remember doing that with this early-ish Kundera story, recently. You don't even realize how fundamental something is until you go away and it comes back to you under your hypnagogic state.
― bamcquern, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
disc 2 of Improvement is where it catches fire. disc 2 track 4/5, 'The Doctor' / 'The Offering Of Images', that's one of my all time favorite Ashley pieces. and 'Tarzan', that's a truly strange song.
― Milton Parker, Friday, 11 September 2009 01:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
'in that pwermanent state of wapture you are mentally OK'
― Milton Parker, Friday, 11 September 2009 02:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
has this been posted before?
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 November 2009 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
new Ashley book out 12/15/09: "Outside of Time"http://www.lovely.com/books/bookslist.html#anchor1307922
Q'est-ce que c'est?????
― My Parents Named Me Zbigniew, Sunday, 22 November 2009 05:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
more great posts as he moves towards the book
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 11 February 2010 00:32 (3 years ago) Permalink
― plax (ico), Friday, 13 August 2010 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
god the new one is really something
definitely the most straightforward one in a little while as far as the narratives are concerned, and hamilton's music really fits with it this time around
I saw Ashley & Humbert perform the last two of these live at Mills about ten years ago. but the first piece is so disjointed and crazy it might even be my favorite, his voice has gotten so strange, the sound of someone drifting off to sleep at the end of every single sentence he speaks
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
what's the new one?
― jed_, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
its a sequel (?) to atalanta, i havent heard it.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
plax linked it -- evidently Atalanta is staged with modular stories which are faded up and down at different moments, making every performance slightly different, and the new album is 3 of the complete stories presented all the way through.
before this one, I liked 'Foreign Experiences' the most of all the ones he's put out in the last 10 years -- it's really paranoid, has a high density of memorable lines -- though that one's more a Sam Ashley showcase than a Robert one. and 'Now Eleanor's Idea' takes a bit of work, but by the end of the last 20 minute piece, it really pays off. 'Dust', 'Celestial Experiences' & 'Concrete' are all kind of samey ensemble operas with good moments but some of the musical settings just kind of snap me out of the mood
the new one though, played it four times in the last week already
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
ok, i wasn't sure if you were talking about the same release.
but atalanta 2 seems to be parts of the original opera that didn't make it on to disc first time around so are they new recordings or old?
i haven't loved any of them after Improvement, and i really loved that, although i liked bits and pieces.
― jed_, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
bits and pieces of the stuff that came after that, i mean.
the stories date from the original opera but these are new recordings
though they're very very similiar to the versions I remember from the Mills concert 10 years ago -- might be exactly the same backing music. but you can tell these are recent recordings, ashley has never sounded this diffuse. or... old, basically
it's odd how my favorite two of the recent deluge of Ashley sets have been the ones that showcase other performers, Sam Ashley & Joan LaBarbara, so even on those, you kind of feel like something's missing (i.e. Bob). but the first disc on the new one is ALL about his voice. the second disc of the new one is mostly a Jacqueline Humbert showcase, even most of the stories clearly come from her, but Ashley's punchlines every few seconds are the glue
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Somehow I thought "Improvement" was much later than it was. Scratch my previous point about not loving anything that came after it.
― jed_, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Milton, does the section known as "flying Saucer Dialogue" (which was on the "Music from Mills"compilation) turn up on this new release? i absolutely love that. who is the woman on that?
-Particles of what?-Paticles of the subject, Sir-Coming up through the monitors?...-Where is it now?-Who knows?-That tone is not allowed, Lieutenant -I'm sorry, Sir-The answer then?-It comes and goes...-Intermittent?-Precisely, Sir
― jed_, Saturday, 21 August 2010 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
no, that's just another bizarre satellite track. the woman is a very young jacqueline humbert, and the keyboards / sound design is paul shorr so that track is kind of like a trial run for the original recording of atalanta in 1985
Flying Saucer has come to Earth for important information concerning humans: The Marriage of Atalanta. Problem: Apples.
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 21 August 2010 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
― ian, Thursday, 16 July 2009 02:23 (1 year ago)
― peacocks, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah, i've become near-obsessed with ashley in the past year and a half; this is pretty welcome right now.
― mike powell, Saturday, September 15, 2007 6:08 AM (3 years ago)
world = small
― sarahel, Friday, 3 December 2010 10:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
i mean... titanically.
you know you've got to hold me tighter yeah
― not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
In Sara, Mencken, Christ and Beethoven There Were Men and Women
this totally kicked my ass at work this morning around 8 A.M.
― sleeve, Saturday, 4 December 2010 07:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
i always think it would be fun to rerecord sarah mencken replacing the names w/ my friends names
― plax (ico), Saturday, 4 December 2010 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
o_O where do you work?
― jed_, Saturday, 4 December 2010 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha it was on my iPod, just playing shuffle in the AM - I work by myself for most of my shift.
― sleeve, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
I found Private Parts, Perfect Lives (Private Parts): The Bar, Automatic Writing, and Perfect Lives (Private Parts): Music Word Fire And I Would Do It Again (Coo Coo) at the community radio station I volunteer at. Kind of overwhelmed with Ashley at the moment. I listened to all of them (in the order above) last night. Automatic Writing was my least favorite, but I was listening to it pretty quietly cuz I didn't want to bug my neighbors upstairs. Maybe if I cranked it up I would like it more. The other three pretty much floored me. The increasing complexity from record to record really engaged me, I was expecting them to all sound like Private Parts. But The Bar immediately destroyed that impression. It's really psychedelic. I felt altered just listening to it. And then Music Word Fire sounded like some lost Arthur Russell underground dance jam.
It's all pretty much brand new to me. I've just looked up his discography and see that I've only been exposed to a small portion of it. I've heard Tyranny's Out of the Blue and The Intermediary, but it is pretty clear that there is a whole lot more music to discover out of this "scene" for lack of a better word.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
love the bar!
I know my thing is to complain about shit I didn't go to but I missed him when he came to providence this year, I think elmo went tho?
here's a tv series ashley produced on the "scene" back in the 70s, see you in 14 hours
― bandcamper van beethoven (Edward III), Friday, 27 May 2011 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Truly love Robert Ashley; one of my all-time heroes. Saw him a few years back performing with his ensemble three nights in a row.
Trips, do you know Atalanta? That is the one that for me really kind of blows my mind. It's incredibly dense and the narrative qualities are harder to follow than ever, but it's mindblowing and gorgeous and just sounds really cool..
The Perfect Lives DVD set is highly recommended as well.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 27 May 2011 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
All I've heard are the four I've listed, I'll look out for Atalanta. And I definitely want to see the DVDs, the records themselves are so cinematic.I am going to watch some of those videos from the link that Ed posted, too, but my home computer is on the fritz and I probably shouldn't watch them at work.Though it is Friday...
― Trip Maker, Friday, 27 May 2011 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
atalanta is really amazing, and the whole LOVELY MUSIC scene is pretty high-qual. there's a few duds ive heard, but like david behrman, pauline oliveros, blue gene tyranny, eliane radigue, gordon mumma, etc etc etc, all so good.
― 69, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
saw FOREIGN EXPERIENCES (from 86 or something?) a few weeks ago at mills with RA in attendance. that one is super-intense, and the whole experience of seeing it performed live was amazing. kind of like i felt when i watched INLAND EMPIRE, i was physically drained upon leaving, in a really good way.
― 69, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Can't wait to play some of it on the air. This is the kind of thing that would stop me in my tracks if I heard it on the radio first.It's also nice to have a cache of "really long tracks that are awesome" for when you need a break.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
i play the park/the backyard to close my show at least a few times per year... such beautiful music. it blows my mind that more people are not totally in love with the work of Robert Ashley.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
First time I heard Robert Ashley was on the radio when the DJ played "Mila's Journey Inspired By a Dream" and it blew my mind
― badg, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 05:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I played side one of The Bar last night. Sounded great. Haven't gotten any listener comments, though. I found a compilation record with the piece "She Was a Visitor" on it at the station. I just now found a copy of the Sonic Arts Union comp lp with the Ashley piece "Purposeful Lady Slow Afternoon" as well as pieces by Alvin Lucier and Gordon Mumma at the academic library where I am employed. I also found some Leonardo Music Journal cd's (WTF had no idea that was an actual thing) as well as the Robert Ashley cd "Superior Seven."Can't wait to clock out, go home, and crank these up.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 2 June 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
If i was from the big town I would be calm and debonair
― it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 2 June 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
"purposeful lady slow afternoon" is so unpleasant..
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, horrible, really. I mean, I like the way it sounds, but the text is just....bad sex is not something I need more insight into.I feel like his background in Hollywood must have influenced that (and everything else, I suppose).
― Trip Maker, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Alvin Lucier's piece on that record, though, sounded GREAT when I turned it up REAL LOUD.It's cicada season in Missouri and they are really droning up a storm this year. The piece worked well in conjunction with that.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Superior Seven is also not so great, it's instrumental :(
― Trip Maker, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
― creme de cassie (donna rouge), Monday, 6 June 2011 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
also: dalkey archive is publishing the 'perfect lives' libretto later this year
― creme de cassie (donna rouge), Monday, 6 June 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's a weird one - the liner notes are a long & funny essay about how the expenses involved make it almost completely impossible for composers to write for orchestra. then the CD has two half-hour pieces 'for orchestra' realized with MIDI realizations using cheap orchestral preset sounds. I remember the second piece had potential, if it were to actually be played, but with those liners, the entire release seemed a little closer to an apology than a working prank
― Milton Parker, Monday, 6 June 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
but I still keep it, because it's an interesting example of Ashley's traditionally musical composition. as he frequently (notoriously) leaves musical chords / arrangements up to his collaborators like Blue "Gene" Tyranny, Superior Seven is a good way to get a grip on what his sense of musical composition when he limits himself to notes. the other really effective piece where Ashley's writing the notes as well as the words is 'Tap Dancing In The Sand'.
― Milton Parker, Monday, 6 June 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink