This is the thread where we talk about Slavoj Zizek...

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His attempts to justify (or Saint-Justify, if you prefer) Robespierre and the Terror on that documentary on the French Revolution were amusing

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

... and as he was up against Simon Schama, it has hard not to warm to him

Aw naw, no' Annoni oan an' aw noo (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 September 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone else reads his tweets imagining how he would be saying them?

one boob is free with one (daavid), Thursday, 10 September 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

i like simon schama more than PLANK zizek.

history mayne, Thursday, 10 September 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

he has a lloyd grossman thing going on but at least he 1) is erudite about history 2) is not an apologist for terrible authoritarian regimes 3) doesn't explain everything in terms of lacan's mirror theory.

history mayne, Thursday, 10 September 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah but Zizek kept rubbing his nose in a funny way in that doc so all is forgiven.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 11 September 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

# Inglorious Basterds is the opposite of living out one's fantasy. It condemns us to the truth. The real fantasy is a world sans Auschwitz 5:13 PM Aug 27th from TwitterFox

huh interesting.

# Currently working on article comparing Irish potato famine to Cheers. I think it will be an interesting one. 10:16 AM Aug 31st from TwitterFox

lol gtfo

goole, Friday, 11 September 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

# RT @sarahksilverman Syntax question: Is the word, "guzzle" exclusive to jizz? 8:56 PM Aug 5th from TwitterFox

goole, Friday, 11 September 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

is this really real? I can never tell with this guy. In what's probably a common opinion, I think he's wrong about everything but love him anyway.

Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Friday, 11 September 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I have some doubts that it's actually Zizek.

Maybe Mordy can ask him!!

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon - it's obviously fake

Jeff LeVine, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Cheney's favorite drink- Yoo-hoo
4:45 PM Aug 17th from TwitterFox

Jeff LeVine, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

c'mon - it's obviously fake

Probably, but it's more fun to pretend it's real.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Friday, 11 September 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha I misread as "This is the thread where we talk like Slavoj ZIzek..."
can some posters indulge me and do this?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I tried once but someone threw a tantrum.

Mordy, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

is this not the thread where we talk about slavoj zizek?

harbl, Friday, 11 September 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

hey mordy could you ask him why he compared israeli treatment of gaza with the holocaust via the hilarious neologism "palestinian-frei'"?

history mayne, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I think any chatting we're going to be doing will mostly be w/r/t Hegel + Antigone. I'd be surprised if Gaza came up.

Mordy, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

(Also, I'm shocked that ILX would care about the neologism 'palestinian-frei.')

Mordy, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

# RT @sarahksilverman Syntax question: Is the word, "guzzle" exclusive to jizz? 8:56 PM Aug 5th from TwitterFox
― goole, Friday, September 11, 2009 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wda thought this was quite a big clue it was fake

cozwn, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

What if it's fake, but it's still authored by Zizek?

jaymc, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah pretty sure zizek's the author

cozwn, Friday, 11 September 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

what is an author?

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 12 September 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

The twitterer is dead.

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 12 September 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

il n'ya pas de hors-Twitter

fleetwood (max), Saturday, 12 September 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

http://twitter.com/zizekspeaks/statuses/4118700070

goole, Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder if it is german, french or american style?

plax (I know, right?), Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

'there is no subjectivity without the reduction of the subject positive-substantial being to a disposable "piece of shit."'

you charm me so, Slavoj.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

his philosophy feels like it comes from the attitude to other philosophers I would probably have if I spent 20 years working in philosophy departments

ogmor, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I love the picture of him giving a lecture, where he looks like he is going to start dishing out karate chops.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I think any chatting we're going to be doing will mostly be w/r/t Hegel + Antigone. I'd be surprised if Gaza came up.

— Mordy, Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:16 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

(Also, I'm shocked that ILX would care about the neologism 'palestinian-frei.')

— Mordy, Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:17 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, actually given his reading of 'antigone' i'd imagine gaza would come up.

why are you "shocked" that ilx (or me anyway) would have a problem with his view that the israelis are trying to eradicate the palestinians just as the nazis tried to eradicate the jews? i care about this because among stupid people he's quite an influential figure.

history mayne, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

His reading of Hegel/Antigone has been mostly about contingency, comedy/tragedy, and decadence. Not so much discussion of Gaza, or really any current events (tho he did discuss health care briefly w/r/t choice/freedom).

Mordy, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i care about this because among stupid people he's quite an influential figure.

― history mayne, Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:00 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

great way to dialogue there bro

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 30 September 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

# There is a sobering message in the failure of the Matrix series: no final solution exists on the horizon today. Capitalism is here to stay.8:13 AM Aug 14th from Echofon

so it's kind of like a dark joke...

but he really does believe in a "final solution" to what he calls "capitalism", doesn't he?

history mayne, Friday, 2 October 2009 11:27 (fourteen years ago) link

w-w-what

goole, Friday, 2 October 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that twitter is for sure not real. His latest positions (at least as he's stated them in class) have been fairly conservative and in favor of incremental changes. He even said last week that he's no longer against Capitalism.

Mordy, Friday, 2 October 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/09/opinion/09zizek.html

goole, Monday, 9 November 2009 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

eh...

"communism, capital. both...pretty bad!"

goole, Monday, 9 November 2009 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

www.zizek.us

New site for all yr Zizek needs, apparently run by Verso.

kshighway1, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 13:42 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

zizek vs. british douchebag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8cIagiKwkw

♖♕♖ (am0n), Monday, 4 January 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Zizek is actually great at TV though - he seems much more skilled at deflecting the "gotcha" interview than most leftists I've seen on TV.

pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i watched his "perverts guide to cinema" off netflix and it was pretty dim

there was one good idea presented, that in hitchcock, there is something at work beneath surface details, and further beneath the deeper stuff like theme or emotion, some kind of pre-linguistic elemental desire of forms in motion against each other through time, or some shit.

but it wasn't really elaborated upon or supported or applied to anything beyond hitchcock.

goole, Monday, 4 January 2010 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

btw, what was the other recent thread where Zizek was being discussed at length? (it wasn't initially about zizek)

pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

think it was about... dylan haha.

the shart of noise (history mayne), Monday, 4 January 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

lol yeah. it was the why don't u like dylan thread.

Mordy, Monday, 4 January 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Why don't I like Bob Dylan?

But there was another one too, because I remember posting on one and it wasn't that.

pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

no logo

♖♕♖ (am0n), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's it.

I just watched all 8 parts of antisemitism, antisemite and jew, which I thought was quite good.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zizek+antisemitism&search_type=&aq=f

I hate to use the tired saw of "doesn't offer any solutions" but there is something a bit frustrating about his successful critique of everything that doesn't quite lead to anything. I wonder if there isn't a logical fallacy in a "third way" between liberalism and authoritarianism - I mean in any sphere you either have centralized control or you don't, right? You can vary in degree of control but I'm not sure you can get outside the space between those two poles.

pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

But maybe this: third way" between liberalism and authoritarianism

is a misstatement of his idea.

pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link


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