2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

pinefox, you and everybody else here who hasn't already should read "Conservatives without Conscience" by John Dean.

conservatism unhinged from reason

conservatives in America are quite conservative in the "buying into & glorifying cultural mythology & traditions" sense

like habeas corpus?

looool praying to Hindu!

And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they're going to think that their god is bigger than you,

this is staggering

That's pure Old Testament, that is.

man that 'indywayne' shit gbx posted is amazing

racist paranoia? check
creepy sexual yearning? check
combat knives? bonus

i think this one's my favorite

http://www.flickr.com/photos/indywayne/2888983792/in/set-72157606125839984/

whats up with crutis77 these days?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/indywayne/2852197056/in/photostream/
I would like to nibble on her from head to toe for hours on end!

It's so impossible to understand conservatives. At first blush they just seem like a bunch of people who just love to be huge assholes, but then you think that can't be it; is it an evolutionarily "healthy" xenophobia, or a genuine belief in a particular moral dogma, or true patriotism or some combination of that stuff plus some other potentially excusable motivators? But the only explanation that's internally consistent with the things they say and do is that they really are huge gaping assholes.

The conservatives I know who are unmoved by the culture wars are men and women deeply suspicious of the federal government, specifically how it spends their taxes. They also view cultural trends with suspicion. These aren't, lord knows, innately conservative positions (plenty of liberals think like them too).

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wtf

http://www.flickr.com/photos/indywayne/2852197056/in/photostream/
I would like to nibble on her from head to toe for hours on end!

― and what, Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:38 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

http://i26.tinypic.com/2udyu5e.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2888983792_7848b62e85.jpg?v=0
^^srsly, omg

why did they feel the need to break his nose?

what's up with THAT

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2900272082_a23f050dc1.jpg?v=0

watching MSNBC...apparently John Lewis made a statement condemning the McCain rallies for their hatemongering and drew a comparison with George Wallace's campaign. McCain called for Obama to repudiate Lewis's remarks.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/11/1534130.aspx

Reply from Obama spokesman Bill Burton (from 538):

Senator Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies.

But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for President of the United States ‘pals around with terrorists.’
As Barack Obama has said himself, the last thing we need from either party is the kind of angry, divisive rhetoric that tears us apart at a time of crisis when we desperately need to come together. That is the kind of campaign Senator Obama will continue to run in the weeks ahead.

http://www.straightgoods.ca/Election2008/Images/Articles/PalinPage/PictureWorth1000Words.jpg

And the cranks come out...:

Suspicious letters delivered to a theater in Palm Desert and to the Los Angeles Times on Friday appeared to contain no hazardous materials, FBI officials confirmed.

...

The envelope was addressed to two Times reporters and bore no return address, said Times Senior Security Manager Larry Belkin. "Save the Babies" was handwritten on the envelope's face, and "Kill All Obama Supporters" was written on the back, Belkin said. Inside was a one-page letter and a light brown granular substance.

FBI officials said the letter was very similar to one delivered on Thursday to an Obama campaign office in Palms, Belkin said.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7460/candidatesshoespt3.jpg

this is gonna be a super fun decade guys

seriously.

I fear it may be /too much fun/.

Speaking of shoes, I just saw this and love it.

http://wigu.com/dump/presidentobama.jpg

Sums up the campaign for me. He has outworked everyone.

Gosh, those last few pictures are all terrific.

The other ones, which I take it are taken from reactionary websites (?), are horrific and horrible.

I do admire Barack Obama.

I don't think that I think US right-wingers (whom I personally hate and fear) are the same thing as 'conservatives'. A lot of their beliefs are not very conservative. I can understand the appeal and some of the logic of being 'conservative' about something - that's not the same as spilling the poison that these people do. The main thing that I fear about right-wingers is not at all how conservative they are, but how radical they are.

Maybe I am stating the obvious (this is a familiar political theme that goes back at least to Thatcher) or maybe this is just a simple difference between big and small c conservatism, or whatever.

Can you point to a political party labelled conservative which is fundamentally different in tenet, ideology or gut instinct from 'US right-wingers' ? I'm having a hard time working out who these lovely fluffy conservatives are. Unless you're confusing 'conservative' with 'moderate', or 'centrist'?

Palin heightens rhetoric on abortion

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/10/11/campaign.wrap/art.palinrally.ap.jpg

Flyers game starts in like 15 minutes

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2008/10/you-can-bet-thi.html

she's probably dropping the puck right about now

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2932072161_7d38e248e6.jpg?v=0

my parent's dog is voting for obama

Can you point to a political party labelled conservative which is fundamentally different in tenet, ideology or gut instinct from 'US right-wingers' ? I'm having a hard time working out who these lovely fluffy conservatives are. Unless you're confusing 'conservative' with 'moderate', or 'centrist'?

Uh?

I believe most European "conservative" parties are very "different in tenet, ideology or gut instinct from 'US right-wingers'". About in the same place as US Democrats I guess, so probably you'd call them "centrist" or even "leftist"...?

err, parents'

cuuuuuuuuuuuuute dog

http://www.flintjournal.com/125/paper/galleries/history/image/pulitzer.jpg

fox news is actually talking about whether this photo is "fair" or not:

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5309_images/1009081844_M_100908_legspalinReuters2.jpg

Hahah, PP just beat me to it.

a w e s o m e x p

Is it fair to portray Palin as a fertility goddess?

Taking Sides: Fertility Goddess V. Mrs. Robinson

I think we need to start brainstorming potential Pt. III thread titles becuase I just tried to expand this thread all the way and just about broke Firefox.

whats up with crutis77 these days?

?

i mean the flickr acct.

actually dude between palin legs looks kinda like shiroibasketshoes

tried to expand this thread all the way and just about broke Firefox

^^^this!