Tango in the Night POLL (Fleetwood Mac)

2. "Seven Wonders" (Stewart, Nicks) – 3:38 0

This is one of the fuckedest things in the history of ILM polls.

otm

wtf at 7 votes for welcome to the room sara!?!!

The seven core members of ilm's Stevie stans, innit.

Yeah but what's weird is that it's the worst of her three songs on there. Voting for it seems terribly perverse.

exactly!! it cant just be abt stevie nicks fans

It's NOT worse than "When Will I See You"!

WASSA MADDA BABY....BABY...BAY-BEE....BABY!

i also picked this up recently and was surprised at how amazing it still sounds. "caroline" in particular deserves more love

i think this could be stevie nicks' worst contributions to any record she's been involved with imo

i wonder how many of the people who voted for "welcome.." are mixing it up with "sara" from tusk

" "caroline" in particular deserves more love"

this is spot on.

My issue with "Welcome To The Room... Sara" is that it sounds like a parody song, like something from that French & Saunders send up of Fleetwood Mac. It actively undermines all of Stevie's signature tricks. "When Will I See You" is merely weak.

Nicks' songs are amazingly strong on Say You Will, but then I've not heard the stuff she's done between the two albums.

Like Bella Donna, Trouble in Shangri-La, etc? If you like Nicks, you'll love the albums, but outside maybe one or two tracks (Nomad, maybe?) nothing really knock-out there.

I know Bella Donna, The Wild Heart and Rock Little, just none after that.

But then I rarely listen to those ones much. What's interesting about Nicks is that she really does work so well as a group player, even though her songwriting style would never suggest it. The half of Say You Will she contributes is possibly as much Nicks as I'd really want in one sitting.

CAROLINE

all the "ooh ah"s in "big love" are still bizarre

Seven Wonders is pretty good, deserved a vote imo.

Yes "Everywhere" is brilliant. I was very annoyed when someone made a swirly house-pop cover version

Tiiiiiiim, who did this?

think i've heard it

basically they looped bits of it so it's longer and added some helpful echoes

theres def a balearic disco edit that jaxon posted on the noize board FM thread iirc.

You've all heard this, I hope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9ovcZKmMpw

There is no way the Little Lies voters have heard the whole thing.

jeez al i didnt know you thought honey hi was a dud

feel like i dont even know you and i cant trust your opinion anymore

you talkin' to me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9zbCuD1ulA

???

Duds on Tusk: "Honey Hi" (McVie), "Angel" (Nicks), "I Know I'm Not Wrong" (Buckingham)

Duds on Mirage: "Straight Back" (Nicks), "Wish You Were Here" (McVie), "Empire State" (Buckingham).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:47 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh yeah, I'll still stand by that.

h8 you

HONEY HOOO-NEY HI

No sacred cows stand in the way of McChallops.

stfu and listen to the "Seven Wonders" 12", heathens.

how did seven wonders get 0 votes and mystified get only 1??

The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

Late to thread but I gotta agree with Tim above about "Oh Diane" being more of a dud than "Empire State" - I get what he's trying to do with it but it's still one of my least favourite Mac songs ever, whereas I really quite like "Empire State" even while realizing it's not top-drawer. But y'know, it's all taste.

Probably a good thing that I never voted on this because I realized that I've only ever heard the singles here. I really should get me a copy of the full album - I think I've given up on Rhino actually bringing out Mirage and Tango in their reissue series, what with the long gap since the first batch.

TITN is their best seller post-Rumours too.

The correct question: how did "Welcome to the Room....Sara" get seven votes?

yeah that song is such a chore

A+ 4Eva: "Caroline", "Everywhere", "Isn't It Midnight"
A: "Seven Wonders", "Big Love", "Tango In The Night", "You & I"
A-: "Little Lies", "Mystified"
B: "Family Man"
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D-: "When I See You Again"
...
F: "Welcome to the Room... Sara"

"isn't it midnight" is the only one i can't remember how it goes

all the arthur baker club mixes that came with the 12" singles are solid gold

"family man" is the underrated gem on this album. such a simple song packed with so many little details. and lindsay's flamenco guitar solos are immense

the cover art for this album is just so perfect

you know EXACTLY what its going to sound like

just sayin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIn-pUYMBg4

Just got around to listening to some "Tango" demos, and man, is Stevie's "Joan Of Arc" weird/spooky. Destroyer could /should cover this.

Here's the demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Ocjnf7Tng&feature=watch_response_rev

And here's the "finished" version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9btTlkvIP9c

Love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtTh_MGXIZg

"mystified" is the sleeper on this album

I cannot believe nobody voted for Seven Wonders or Isn't It Midnight! The super-urgent guitar outra on the latter is a one-way ticket to Lindsey heaven.

^^^^^^ Absolutely. Under the circumstances everyone who voted for "Welcome to the room... Sara" should be shot and killed. I don't care if they were joke votes.

FRONT LINE BABEEEE

is there a version of that everywhere demo longer than 1:17?

such crazy results, 'welcome to the room... sara' is a pretty bad song almost made good by producer-lindsey's insistence that it be good, but why vote for it when you could have 'seven wonders', an okay song almost made amazing by producer-lindsey's insistence? also, poor 'family man'. i heard it dropped in the middle of a nu-disco set a while back and it was somehow perfect.

"Seven Wonders" is classic Lindsey playing Capn Save a Stevie.

Reminds me that I've never checked out any footage from the Campbell/Finn tour. I'm really curious, because I can't imagine the addition of either of those guys ever making something worse.

OK, here's a full show (Little Lies slotted second in the setlist!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHmWxsGLNcU

Sounds fine, the biggest problem is that neither Neil nor Mike sound much like Bucky.

Admittedly, Nicks hasn't sounded much like herself for 35 years.

I have my own biases/tastes, but I've seen Fleetwood Mac minus Christine and they sounded great. I've seen Christine and Bucky tour together without the others and their take on Mac stuff sounded great. I've seen Bucky tour with his own band and he sounded great, too, Mac stuff included. As if it hadn't been demonstrated by his absence before, clearly Bucky as constant is pretty key to the Mac sound from S/T on, either by force of will or force of musical imagination.

Of course, I've seen Stevie solo a couple of times, too, and she was pretty good as well, but she doesn't need to lean *too* hard on the Mac stuff, given all her hits. Bucky sort of comes at it from a different perspective, rewarding people with some Mac stuff for putting up with all of his non-hits. Which admittedly are often pretty great, but he knows they're not substitutes, just alternatives.

Man, this quaalude mix of “Mystified” with Lindsey doing Mike Oldfield interludes in the guitar is p dope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=558bIK_X1ZY

i wish i'd grabbed the alt-Tango when it came out for RSD, it's £££s on the discogs now