Janet's "Nasty" or Vanity 6's "Vanity"?
The Velvets' "I'm Sticking With You" is in there somewhere, sounding arch and coy in this company.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link
The Moldy Peaches and Spielberg. You pick the weirdest shit to love.
― milo z, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I hope they score his Lincoln movie
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, I'd assumed the songs were all Kimya Dawson. Are some of them Moldy Peaches? (Not a genre connoisseur obv.)
I dunno, if "pro-life" = "opposed to abortion being legal," I'm not sure the movie takes this stance per se.
― Sundar, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
citizen ruth was not pro-life
Or pro-choice.
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, January 7, 2008 6:07 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
uh?
it really is.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link
i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film
thank you for smoking pissed me off more than any movie ive seen maybe ever, and took a similar aw-shucks stance - 'yeah smoking kills but itd be pretty gay to try and regulate it!'
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link
That's what you get making a movie based on a Christopher Buckley novel.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
it really is. The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.
Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link
"i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film"
I don't think the movie treats it as non-viable option (in fact, in contrast to Knocked Up it's ACTUALLY brought up as an option.) The one actual pro-life person in the movie is portrayed as being totally ridiculous. Of course, the Planned Parenthood people are treated as being pretty doofus-y too which is kind of sad.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link
The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.
i think it's too "equal opportunities" in its satire, but it's def pro-choice.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
"Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan."
Good advice for everyone.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course. Calls to mind the Clinton figleaf "SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE" -- like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
It's just the choice Ruth makes at the end has nothing to do with whether or not to have her baby.
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
If you like the music in Juno, Morbs, you should double-time it to a screening of Once.
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
i think the movie pretty clearly doesnt think it's a good idea for ruth to have the baby, they just sidestep it by having her miscarry
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link
"like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare"
You are kidding, right? You don't think that trying to provide adequate family planning/birth control isn't trying to make it rare?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
and while the pro-choice wiccan lesbians are pretty goofy they arent as outright repugnant as the pro-lifers
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link
depends how you feel about wiccan lesbos.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
i dunno obviously youre getting close to bullshit south park style 'fair-minded' satire with that but if the pro-choicers were more saintly it wouldve been dismissable propaganda
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link
"Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course."
I don't think that the movie's view of Planned Parenthood or the single pro-life girl is really intelligent enough to be called a crit anyway, but my experience with pro-lifers who stand outside of clinics is that they ARE wingbats while most people I've known who worked at those clinics were pretty normal so yeah I'd say it was a pretty lame "equal opportunity criticism" or whatever.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link
xp: I do, Alex, and Dems, in the main, aren't doing enough for it.
Eric, given yr musical predilections I don't expect you to distinguish the Moldy Peaches from The Frames.
(however, I'm wary of Juno bcz I could easily be turned off by the Moldys' music being used as a crutch)
Apparently Ellen Page is behind the quantity of MPs on the soundtrack:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/47444-the-moldy-peaches-reunite-for-ijunoi-premiere
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Notice me not taking the bait, Morbs?
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"xp: I do, Alex, and Dems, in the main, aren't doing enough for it."
At what level? Nationally? State? Locally?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
yes, perhaps, sure
I know you're better than that, E.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe ppl who actually have had to deal with abortion clinics should stick to discussing this and leave the opinions of bitchy old maid paultard queens out of it
― and what, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh haha OK Kimya Dawson is in the Moldy Peaches.
― Sundar, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Ouch.
"Enough" is tough standard. I certainly agree they could do more probably at all three levels. But no doubt in my mind that Dems at all levels are trying a lot harder than Republicans to make it "rare".
― Alex in SF, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link
maybe you should give me yr address, ethan, so you can see how bitchy I can get.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Dr Morbius, Monday, January 7, 2008 6:47 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
Scared? Kind of excited, too? All mixed up?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
If memory serves, one of the songs has a lyric that went a little something like this: "I am the church and you are my steeple / We sure are cute for two ugly people."
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah! delightful!
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Eric, I think (OK, have the slimmest of hopes) you'd like "Steak for Chicken."
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I'll take "who's that eating that nasty food."
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Are there guitars involved?
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link
I saw this with last week. I really liked it, but apparently because I didn't think it was the greatest film of the year, I've been getting flack from people. I mean, it was entertaining and funny.
Is this really the best movie of 2007, tho?
(I've been getting the same reaction to ONCE. I kinda liked ONCE, but people are horrified that I haven't already bought the DVD.)
― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait -- you know people who own Once?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Is there a Once thread? The arguments there should be "fun." (except I'm not sure if anyone besides Mordechai has been kind to it here)
How did you get past the guitars on Prince records, E?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Why is that so hard to believe, Alfred? I know at least two people (including one who posts here) who called it their favorite film of the year.
― jaymc, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link
The Belated Thread for Once
i thought it was pretty pro-life, really. it's also incredibly obnoxious, unfunny, and formulaic.
― lauren, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, yeah. The abortion clinic scene was really horrid. But I laughed at things at least a few times. I thought Rainn Wilson was funny. And - erm - yeah.
― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
actually, probably all of my favorite movies are formulaic so that's not neccessarily a criticism. but if you're going to make a gigantic song and dance about how iconoclastic the characters are, fill the script with badly-handled "indie" signifiers, and change your name to d1ablo cody, then it might be a problem.
― lauren, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Um, they ejaculate instead of dribble a limp stream of tears?
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Hell, I even like Juno more than Once, and that probably includes the music too.
― Eric H., Monday, 7 January 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
is d1ablo cody any relation to turn3r cody? the moldy peaches thing would at least make sense then
― bell_labs, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
It's a pseudonym.
― Eazy, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I like that one Once song. "Falling Slowly"
I can't remember any of the others.
― Mordechai Shinefield, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I found Once pretty horrifying, lots worse than Juno, but these thoughts don't belong here.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
ALSO:
Shadowcat PWNs Juno.
I thought Rainn Wilson was funny
that was by far the worst scene, every other word was some ridiculous bullshit like "homeskillet"
the first half of this was super anoying .... got a little better later I thought
― dmr, Monday, 7 January 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link