2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

that is seriously like the first time this campaign that mccain's actually come off like a decent dude to me tho

i don't think it's calculated either, tbh. he seems a little weary, like a guy who is trying to balance getting his supporters behind him and a guy who is trying to still hold onto some dignity. he's coming off like--and maybe i'm reading into it a little bit--that he's lashing back slightly against what certain people are telling him to do.

Unfortunately his campaign seems hellbent on being indecent:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/10/1529529.aspx#comments

omg these fucking people

If Obama thanked McCain at debate #3 for defending him against people who say crazy dangerous shit, would it be a good judo throw or come off as a concern-troll dick move?

Isn't a concern-troll dick move an amazing judo throw?

putin would agree

he seems a little weary, like a guy who is trying to balance getting his supporters behind him and a guy who is trying to still hold onto some dignity.

i agree. he seems miserable, actually.

haha this is exactly why i imagine he will be voting obama on election day

Meantime, the Corner has weighed in...talking about how great it is a legal complaint against Mark Steyn was dismissed in Canada. Because nothing else happened tonight!

Canada, acc. to the Corner, has no Free Speech. When they say things like that, I wonder if they actually speak the same language that I speak. Do their words mean the same things as my words?

maybe they should just move to canada if they hate the u.s. so much

i just read that Rolling Stone piece on McCain today BTW. Absolutely withering portrait. It boils everything down to ambition, basically. But that strikes me as ultimately facile. It looks to me like McCain has a fractured self - two halves that have never been integrated- and the rift is tearing him apart from the inside.

hahaha. I told a libertarian that the other day. He said that the majority should be allowed to take tax money from him. I told him he should leave the United States if it bothers him. We live in a Democracy. We can vote to take money from whomever we damn well please :P XP

He said that the majority should NOT be allowed*

fwiw Fox is ACORN ACORN ACORN this evening

i've never seem them so transparently propagandist before

lol desperate

really??? xp

i've never seen a moment where the whole news world is looking one way and foxworld is looking the other way

i can't think of one off-hand, but i'm pretty sure that's not particularly unusual.

i just read that Rolling Stone piece on McCain today BTW. Absolutely withering portrait. It boils everything down to ambition, basically. But that strikes me as ultimately facile. It looks to me like McCain has a fractured self - two halves that have never been integrated- and the rift is tearing him apart from the inside.

― collardio gelatinous, Friday, October 10, 2008 9:11 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

isn't that what every Rolling Stone bio is about?

im sure the RS bio would make me hate mccain but its not like he needs to convert me

lolcrutis

Mudflats' take on the day up in Alaska. Worth a full read.

Allahpundit at Hot Air surrenders:

Look at it this way: If the race was close right now, this would be a killer. As it is, it’s just one more shovel blow to the back of the skull.

A wonderfully wrong comment on that Hot Air entry:

Sarah Palin: What a woman!! Acted within her authority as Governor. Todd Palin: What a man!! Acted out as husband and protector!!
Take off all your clothes on stage next time, Sarah and run into Todd’s arms and say “Thank you and take me, I’m yours!!”
This is great...land of the free, the brave and the way too sexy!!

gracie on October 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM

'Ninety-nine and 44/100ths of every person who has come to my town-hall meetings has been respectful,' McCain said

I once heard that 44/100ths of all statistics are made up on the spot.

John McCain's meetings = Ivory soap

the irony of the ad they put out today about obama's "naked ambition" is that john mccain's disgust and anger towards the only ppl who will still support him, the white trash he's ALWAYS thought himself better than, is utterly and totally the result of his own naked ambition without a single backing point or idealism behind it. his story is just sad and tragic. had he never gone down this road, he'd have died a dude remembered respectfully! no one would know that he crashed 73 billion planes and had a crippled wife whom he left for a much younger rich lady.

glenn greenwald's been great the last couple days btw

no one would know that he crashed 73 billion planes and had a crippled wife whom he left for a much younger rich lady.

Never underestimate the public's ability to forget. And after all, haven't we ALL left our shortened wives for younger, richer ladies?

Rocker Ted Nugent pulls no punches on what he'd do as president to those on welfare in America: deport them.

The Michigan rocker and avid hunter espouses his views on the state of the nation in his new book, "Ted, White and Blue: The Nugent Manifesto" (Regnery, $27.95), in which he outlines his plans for America if he were to win the nation's highest office.

"Able-bodied Americans who refuse to work will be sent to Cuba, Mexico, England and France," Nugent says according to the New York Post's Page Six, which reports the Nuge would eliminate welfare in a "Cat Scratch Fever" administration.

"[I'd] instruct the U.S. military warriors to do their job — win the global war on terror right now and eliminate all threats from all sources by any means necessary," he writes in an excerpt printed by Page Six.

Nugent's plan to run the country includes ending dues payments to the United Nations and taking "appropriate gas and oil from Mexico and the Middle East as payment for all debts we are owed by them."

Also on the chopping block: diplomatic immunity and taxpayer health care for those elected to office.

belongs in 'this fuckin guy'

Pravda's been on fire lately.

http://english.pravda.ru/

<3

i don't think the public will forget mccain's travesty of a fearmongering, racist campaign. i mean, i know that nixon got some "awww, that fuckin guy" at the end of his life, but he's still remembered for watergate and not anything else he did (wingnut apologists aside).

also "quadrillion" is pravda made of 5 year olds

5 year old kittens

At times, the appeals were so desperate for McCain to be tougher on Obama that he felt convinced to assure one voter that he cared as much about the election’s outcome as they did.

"Believe me, I am motivated," McCain said.

its out of his control

Man, I just can't believe all this. John McCain getting booed at his own rally because the Republican crowd decided they like being scum more than they like him.

this made me larf.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d4dde8ed61

The Maroitt Hotel is well and truly fucked.

hahaha that shouldn't crack me up as much as it does. "I have Christmas tree ornaments...billions and billions of dollars worth."

At the orgies Obama goes to, they go all out, lemme tell ya.

"New Hampshire, and other countries."

MCCAIN: "I've got a pen."
OBAMA: "I've got a computer."

It's funny because it's true a campaign issue.

nabisco otm

he sort of, you could say, "threw her under the bus" a little

― omar little, Friday, October 10, 2008 1:14 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more like the straight talk express" amirite

xp - And O'Reilly wins big time for interviewing Obama. You can hate O'Reilly and Murdoch, but they knew what they were doing.

― The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, October 10, 2008 1:25 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

to be fair, Hannity has been clamoring for an Obama interview for over a year, albiet in O'Rielly's "if you dont come on my show you're a pussy" style.

Drudge isn't updating either.

― Mordy, Friday, October 10, 2008 3:16 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

4 hours later and still nothing (tho it is a fridy nite)

also, from Sullivan:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/images/2008/10/10/palinlogo1.jpg

Remember in late July when Barack Obama predicted John McCain's attack strategy? Remember McCain's howls of protest in response? Well, it turns out that Obama was right about McCain's attacks. As it turns out, he knew McCain better than McCain knew McCain. I guess that means we can call him "Nostrobamus."

Man, he looked so much younger two months ago...