What are people's favourite dancehall rhythms of the year or so...

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What's the new Elephant Man track where he nicks the vocal melody from "Eye of the Tiger"? Not brilliant but hilarious.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

The remake of Night Nurse is great.

― cybele (cybele), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

any recent stuff from tanya stephens and lady saw that i need? from tanya i've only got 'please me' on the tai chi riddim which i think is 2002. as for 2003 lady saw stuff, and i found 'sleep tonight', i dont know what riddim and i'm not even sure it's 03, but i like it cos it sounds a bit like kwaito which sounds a lot like early 90s house.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 11 October 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

that's 'fan dem off' i think, tim. the one on gallop anyway

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 11 October 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

cesar riddim is my current skweeze

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 11 October 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

i'm totally stealing tim's list there and burning it to cd

― rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 11 October 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

i've been trying to make a dancehall mix for a friend but editing it down to single cd length (even with 80 mins of cdr space) is killing me. especially when i'm still downloading absolutely essential stuff (like the cesar riddim tracks, thanks for the heads up prima!!) as we speak. 2003 dancehall (and probably 2002 dancehall and 2001 dancehall etc etc, i just wasnt listening as hard then) is a source of great comfort and great anxiety. i've never been so certain that 1. there's a near-limitless source of loveable music and 2. i'm missing out on most of it.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 11 October 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone know what the name of the awesome riddim under Mr. Vegas's "Tamale" is? Luvvit.

Also I'd love some riddim IDs for Elephant Man's "Blase" (pop toon! Love how the intro quotes C&C Music Factory) and Kip Rich & Preditor's "Head Nah Good" (mega pop toon!).

Lenky's new one "Timetravel" is good but not as physical as masterpiece or (obviously and especially) diwali - although it's very enticing because a) it's claustrophobically dense, and b) it sounds like it was recorded underwater, which allows it to bring back the "dub" in a rather unusual manner.

Mitch your mix-cd looked great. I'm still looking for MP3s of stuff like Chico's "Exchange" - fuck limewire!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 17 October 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

Isn't the Elephant man on the Blase riddim? It sounds hella like "Signal the Plane," "Pon the River," and pretty much everything he's done over the past year or so. The Kip Rich is on the Gallop riddim.

― cybele (cybele), Friday, 17 October 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

Cesar riddim IS GREAT!!

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 17 October 2003 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Isn't the Elephant man on the Blase riddim? It sounds hella like "Signal the Plane," "Pon the River," and pretty much everything he's done over the past year or so."

You say that like it's a bad thing! Seriously though I take your point - Ele seems to have streamlined his big party-number style such that these sound great in a mix but would probably sound a bit odd stacked one after another an artist album (which may be why neither "Signal the Plane" nor "Blase" are on his next album). That said it's much less exhausting than his gangsta style circa 2000.

Yeah I found out it was the Gallop riddim about two seconds after posting that. I love it, but I wonder if it would be so great without "Mad - Sick - Head Na Good!/Madsickheadnahgood!" over the top.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 October 2003 05:28 (twenty years ago) link

how did that set go down with the crowd btw tim?

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 18 October 2003 08:22 (twenty years ago) link

vybz's "band wagonist" quotes "can i get a..."!

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 18 October 2003 08:31 (twenty years ago) link

"how did that set go down with the crowd btw tim?"

Well I think - I mixed in stuff like "Baby Boy" and "Stand Up" and "Snake" to help digestion, but anyway what I was playing was fairly easy stuff to dance to anyway - TOK's "Dis Means War" (Rebirth) and "Galang Gal" (diwali), Sizzla's "Love & Affection" (Wanted), Baby Cham's "Vitamin S" (Fiesta), Beenie Man's "My Dickie", Elephant Man's "All Out", Vybz Kartel's "Sweet to da Belly"... My boyfriend complained that it was occasionally difficult to find the beat but there were a lot of people dancing so I take that as a good sign.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 October 2003 09:38 (twenty years ago) link

I would have danced more but I had just been working, then wolfed down my dinner, then sprinted to catch the train. It was impossible not to dance to Sweet to da Belly though.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Saturday, 18 October 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

any thoughts on 'def jamaica'? the dmx/sean paul/mr. vegas song is pretty weak. the red and meth track is nice-ish, but it only really turns into dancehall when they're done with it. the ghostface/elephant man track is just decent elephant stuff with about 15 seconds of ghost.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck - i think have bought the absolute hands-down, single best dancehall tune in the world ever!!! i'd not seen it in london but unearthed it in jammyland in new york on a last-minute burst of record shopping. it's called soft inside and on the voom voom rhythm, voiced by the truly fucking awesome tanya stevens. as tim f said a while ago about the voom voom, it's pretty insane but this vocal is little short of heart-rupturingly fantastic. real screaming throaty diva stuff like you never heard before. incidentally, if anyone's even vaguely, interested i'm writing a whopping great big piece about tanya, wayne marshall, vybz kartel, ce'cile and assassin right now. it should be published in a couple of months or so and i interviewed ce'cile in long island about ten days ago. she's lovely and gave me one of the best interviews in my career talking about a lot of interesting social/political/gender/sexuality-related stuff as well as the music. also got a v advanced preview of her album and it's amazingly varied with a beautiful, sparse and surprisingly fragile soca tune that i could easily imagine being played by joe claussell, kervorkian and the like....

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

Whaddya think of the Cutty Ranks, Ce'cile, Vybz Kartel, and Mr. Vegas on the same riddim? All nice. But yeah, I'll give you that the Tanya Stephens is crazy good.

― cybele (cybele), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:53 (twenty years ago) link

i got the ce'cile track, the vybz one, too, and was looking for the cutty ranks one when i stumbled on this... it's an absolute howler of a track and rocks my world like nothing i've heard before, so it's the winner for me!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 18 October 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, and can I just say that the Ting a Ling riddim is amazing? I want the Jah Mason very very badly.

― cybele (cybele), Saturday, 18 October 2003 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

now i was only joking with the dubstep-shockwave thing but... cesar riddim is on "forward recordings" and the 7 looks like a fabric club flyer and the beat is kinda detroit-croydon and weirdly desultory inna bourgeois western way and it's really cleanly produced a-and how come effin ROUGH TRADE had it first!... b-b-ut i checked the runout groove and stuff, it's even got a JA phone number

o well. in other news !NGOZI riddim! watch out it's tuff!

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 20 October 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

i am well disappointed that the 'amelie riddim' is just a bite from the soundtrack and not rowan atkinson gabbacrunk or something

is it common-ish knowledge that 'ngozi' is zulu for 'DANGER'?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:13 (twenty years ago) link

hey-prima fassy...I noticed that too. Check out www.geejam.com for more information. I don't know whether this is a good or bad thing.

― cybele (cybele), Monday, 20 October 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link

argh argh "thinking INDEED LIVING outside the box", it's like some next kevin martin wordsound shit!

dancehall replies with THIS!!

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

arent "howlers" meant to be bad things?

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 20 October 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I've decided bad. Definitely bad.

― cybele (cybele), Monday, 20 October 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

what is the name of the song and what riddim is it off of where elephant man sings ( de bad man ah enemy, de fassy a frienemy, sum ah them wannabe, i nuh like yu, nor yu nuhhuh like me

i want the name of thir riddim badly it sound tight

― Bigger n Better Boss, Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

"Lenky's new one "Timetravel" is good but not as physical as masterpiece or (obviously and especially) diwali - although it's very enticing because a) it's claustrophobically dense, and b) it sounds like it was recorded underwater, which allows it to bring back the "dub" in a rather unusual manner."

I think I may have been wrong about this! Vybz Kartel's "Send on Jah" is a great pop song and I love the way there's all these little percussive rolls all over the place. Still not sure if it would light up the dancefloor but I can't say for sure that it wouldn't!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:06 (twenty years ago) link

tim did you get my email?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah Sterling I'm replying to it now.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Dosent anyone know the name of the riddim that i asked about in the thread i left on the 21st of october?

― Bigger n Better Boss, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

Atlantik's 'Lollipop' is pretty cool

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

OMG the Thursday 23/10 Robbo Ranx (but actually Seani B) set on 1xtra is fucking amazing - these are the first tracks and they're all great:

Voicemail – Salsa
Shaggy – Your Eyes
Elephant Man – We No Pet Dem
T.O.K –Won’t Stop
Wayne Marshall – Life Lessons
Cecile – Give It To Me
Ward 21 – Sickhead (Big Yard)
Tubby T – Ready She Ready (Big League)
Million Styles – Celebrate
T.O.K – One Night Stand
Sizzla – Whe Dem Wha
Bounty Killer – Sexual Healing
Vybz Cartel – Roll Deep
Vybz Cartel - Too Boasi (White)
Vybz Cartel – Good As Gal (White)
Sizzla – All Is Well (Greensleeves)

The first few are on the Salsa riddim. The Vybz Kartel tracks at the end are particularly awesome.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

lenky. dreamweaver.

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

I was about to say: DOUBLE OMG! Lenky's "Dreamweaver" riddim is utterly insane!!! This is the *real* sequel to Diwali.

it's later on in that mix I just mentioned.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

I like how Ele's "Blessed" goes from the psycho screams+blinding beats bits into these really uplifting quasi-conscious bits. But T.O.K.'s "Fire" is even better.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

i find dreamweaver v impressive but a bit hard to love. every piece on it is super tailored

ele one's great! but i've never really liked tok. who's is the one that starts "lenky, dem like it they like it, if they want let dem fight it"? that's a great one. chico continues to rule. oh god vybz is such a twat tho, first he hates on r kelly and now CIGARETTES wtf, what's really good!

lime cay riddim is terrific, the littoral to gallop's literal

― prima fassy (bob), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm listening to Dreamweaver again and I have to say I really do totally love it - like Diwali it's both insane and yet totally uplifting. I hope Wayne Wonder does another drippy ballad on it.

I tend to like the super-tailored nature of Lenky's riddims, if only because it makes buying and actually listening to his riddim albums on a regular basis conceivable. Yeah Elephant Man's is my favourite again - love that descending bass riff in the intro. But all the versions I've heard are great (agreed on Vybz' subject matter but he always *sounds* so wonderful. Looking forward to his album).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:31 (twenty years ago) link

The Dreamweaver is rocking my ass right now. "Blessed" from Elephant Man and "Visa" by Vybz Kartel (CIGARETTE SMOKE IS JUST NO GOOD) both work on different levels. The only riddim killing me like this is still Famine (No one hurt it harder than Lexxus on "Good Hole") or maybe Egyptian (Elephant Man will do any riddim, immediately, even though his performances sound the same. I'm cool with that).

Dancehall is great.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

Prima, why dislike TOK? I love their singalong choruses. "Pengeleng", "Galang Gal" and "Dis Means War" are all great.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:32 (twenty years ago) link

Just a wee question: How many folks on this thread are from the UK? I have this theory about popular riddims in the UK vs popular riddims in other places (Canada, US, Germany, Italy, JA, etc.)

― cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

it's like some next kevin martin wordsound shit!

is this supposed to be a good thing or a bad one? i loathe kevin martin and all that bollocks. incidentally, the word "howler" can mean different things to different people in different parts of the country, chip, dear boy. in any case it's merely a figure of speech. one question, though, why is vybz kartel a twat, precisely? i think you might find he's actually generally considered to be pretty damned decent, but hey...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:54 (twenty years ago) link

and go cybele, i'm interested to hear this. dancehall needs more theory!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'm Canadian.

I'd wager that most Americans favor Diwali.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

Cybele I'm a brit and my fav three riddims this year are probably Bad Company, Sars and Hindu Storm. Do I fit the profile?

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Mine's Sars, Voom Voom and Egyptian

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

Somebody else knows Hindu Storm! I haven't heard any hindu storm cuts since, like, April though. Is anything floating about that I can find?

Also on closer inspection Vybz is saying he doesn't want cigarettes cos he wants more weed, which is reasonable I think.

Cybele I'm from Australia, I love long walks along sandy beaches, my Australian Idol vote was for Paulini, and my four favourite dancehall riddims of '03 are Wanted, Egyptian, Mudslide and Dreamweaver. But yeah what's the theory?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

What's the riddim with Vybz Kartel's "Roll Deep", Sizzla's "Whe Dem Wha" and Bounty Killer's "Sexual Healing" etc. Cos that's some amazing shit.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 30 October 2003 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

it's still annoying holier-than-man dem reasoning! yeah he's a lovable twat, sly and wry but a bit of a curmudgeon. bit wary of being like everyone else. and i reckon he'd still take a cig off you anyway, that's the main thing

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:15 (twenty years ago) link

"actually generally considered to be a pretty damn decent, but hey..."

haha keep scraping my barrel dave!

― prima fassy (bob), Thursday, 30 October 2003 09:28 (twenty years ago) link

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