2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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mccain's friends (jeff), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link

So, when are we expecting the 'troopergate' report?

dowd, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm beginning to think that wink was like an "activate" switch for the nutjobs in this country

omar little, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

you mean that report STILL isn't out? damn.

my immediate family and my wife's are all pretty-much pro-obama, except for the ones who didn't register to vote.

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

So, when are we expecting the 'troopergate' report?

Currently being read:

http://www.adn.com/news/story/551898.html

Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau, chairman of the Legislative Council, gave no indication how long the secret session might last or when Branchflower's report might be made public.

But two lawmakers who've stepped out of the meeting briefly say it could be hours.

Senate President Lyda Green, a Wasilla Republican, and Rep. Peggy Wilson of Wrangell said the session is moving slowly.

How slow? Wilson was asked.

"Slooowwww," she said.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

(Lest you fear about Green, she is NOT a friend of Palin; the two have been at odds for a while and she has indicated she is voting for the release of the report. But she's just one vote.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

During the closed legislative hearing, a group of about 50 supporters of Gov. Sarah Palin stood on the sidewalk outside the legislative building. They waved signs that said "Palin Power," "Sarah's Right" and "Not Guilty," and they chanted "Go, Sarah, Go" and "Who's the best mom in the world - Sarah."

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

"how slow?"

"like, 'this could take a good 60 days' slow, doggonit."

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

que sera sera

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

you betcha

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i cant believe any of these ppl ever accused obama of having a 'cult of personality'

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm beginning to think that wink was like an "activate" switch for the nutjobs in this country

― omar little, Friday, October 10, 2008 1:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

OTM. Palin could have been a shoo-in for Diane in V or any other hot female nemesis in a bad 80s sci-fi TV movie.

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132527

Update: 10:45 a.m.: Sen. Lyda Green just stepped outside and asked reporters if they realized the closed proceedings could take hours. She indicated they were just a little bit into the report.

Update 11:50 p.m.: It may be a while. Green just stepped outside again and reports they're now on page 20 of the 200-plus page document. "Go home," she advised.

Update 12 noon Kyle reports the Sen. Kim Elton, D-Juneau and the Legislative Council chairman, stepped outside for a bathroom break and was asked how it was going inside. "I'm not going to characterize it," he said. "I'm tempted to, but I won't." None of the others coming and going from the room have had anything to say.

Then Jeff Turner, an aide to the Senate majority, came out and said it would be at least another hour until any official word emerges from within.

mccain's friends (jeff), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

do they think they can stall past Nov. 4? motherfuck these people

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The longer this simmers in the news cycle, even if non-headline, the better.

Who knows. Maybe a lack of verdict before Nov 4th would be better off (unless you support Palin)

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

what will palin likely do after this is all over, other than be a curious footnote? serious question.

rent, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd rather the verdict be delayed after Nov 4th, if the verdict is going to go Palin's way.

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Good column on the voter fraud non-issue, published in 2007 at the height of the US attorney scandal.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Meanwhile, Ted Stevens is simmering right now as well. Alaska be havin fun.

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i have to find a link, but palin complained today about the upcoming report because they didn't interview her for it.

being a nutjob is your right as an american, but treating me like i'm stupid is not.

xp i highly doubt this is going palin's way

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I highly doubt any verdict is going to change America's minds even if it were delivered today.

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

It would be really really satisfying though, in a end of a bad 80s sci-fi TV movie way

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Talking about 'verdicts' in the case of the Branchflower report is misleading -- this isn't a trial, merely the results of a legislative investigation, which may or may not get to the public. (Not all of it will anyway, since the larger of the two notebooks each member of the committee has contains specifically private personnel information.) It's what the legislature decides to do with it that matters, depending on what it contains.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

it won't affect anything either way. Palin's already garnered all the support she's ever gonna get, and everybody else hates her.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't wait for the deluge of books about this endless election season, seriously

Gonna plow through some of the better ones

Maybe I should start a thread for that now; it's never too early, is it?

Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 10 October 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned OTM. What if Sarah Palin were found guilty *and* had to serve time? Highly doubtful, but that would kinda impede on the Republican presidential ticket in a way never seen in America before.

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I've mentioned before how my racist (and my hero, coincidentally enough) grandfather would've voted. Straight D.

My dad is all "you better vote for Obama or they're going to be rioting in the streets!" Sure, it's backhanded, but at least we're on the right track.

(He can't vote of course due to his felony conviction, but that's a waaaaayyyyyyyyy different topic for another time.)

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ilxors be candid

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

their stump stops get crazier and crazier; that winking shit was like their version of the queen of diamonds card, right? except setting off 100k crazy murderous psychos instead of one.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/2929305147_19e6e88f89.jpg

lol

ILX MOD (musically), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

More Palin funnies:

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132548

Andree McLeod just stopped by the Legislative offices, after the hearing this morning on her lawsuit against Gov. Sarah Palin and the state.

Looks like McLeod won at least parts of what she’s asking for – to force the governor to retrieve or preserve any e-mails she’s written on private accounts that deal with government business.

She carried a copy of the order signed by Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers.

“Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and the office of the governor of Alaska … are ordered to preserve all e-mails (including attachments thereto) sent between December 4, 2006, and the resolution of this litigation…”

But the judge didn’t approve another of McLeod’s requests, which would have forced Palin to stop using private accounts to talk about state business.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I would like to hear the educated opinion of the Secret Service agents tasked with shadowing McCain and Palin to hear what they have to say about the pitchfork-wielding mob who gets all frothy at the collective mouth when they hear the word OBAMA

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ the "palin 2012" pic turned up in this amazing post:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/on-road-dueling-rallies-ohio.html

On a day when the Dow plunged another 678 points, we had the opportunity to cross paths with another Barack Obama rally and another Sarah Palin rally here in west-central Ohio. Obama did five rallies here in two days: Dayton, Cincinnati, Portsmouth, Chillicothe, and Columbus, while Palin did events in Wilmington (home of the DHL plant closing that David Plouffe promised to highlight in local radio ads) and Cleveland. The events were a study in contrasts.

Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of approximately 8,500 in Dayton's Fifth Third (Eighth?) Field for 40 minutes, and immediately launched into a detailed discussion of the economy. Titled the "American Jobs Tour Rally," Obama managed the subtle stagecraft of physically morphing from a suit-coated politician to a coatless, sleeves-rolled-up problem-solver.

Palin's rally featured the more impressive entrance, with giant video screens showing the crowd the slowly turning campaign bus as it approached the cavernous inside venue. Finally, the fog machines hit high blast, the huge blue curtain parted, and the bus drove right inside the hall. As "Eye of the Tiger" blasted over the loudspeakers, Palin bounded on stage to a full-throated roar. It was some pretty sweet stagecraft, (even if had Obama tried it he'd have been ridiculed for behaving as a "celebrity").

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

sarah palin is your new monster truck

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:24 (fifteen years ago) link

why does putin even need a tiger anyway

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

wait wrong thread

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

no, it's cool

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

would have beers w: obama
would get drunk w: biden
would smoke up w: monster truck palin
would go to country kitchen buffet w: mccain

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:29 (fifteen years ago) link

would kick ass w: judo putin and his amazing tiger

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

they're going after michelle:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_campaign_goes_after_mic.php

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

palin pleased crowd "like a tiger"

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

i think that would only work for her if by 'smoke up' you mean 'do meth'

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

attacking Michelle will not bode well for the McCain campaign

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I do like the idea of Palin emerging from a dense stage fog like a methed-out Andrew Eldritch xposts

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ wikiWAHT

original dixieland jaas band (Curt1s Stephens), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

The attack? Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers' wife and fellow former Weatherman, went to work in 1984 for the major Chicago-based national law firm of Sidley & Austin, and three years later, Michelle joined the mega-firm as well.

That's the entire attack. We wish we were joking. But we aren't

I mean, come on now.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Palin *is* becoming Diane of V!

Hamster Bobbing in Montana rally next week!

The Wire Tapping That Asset Solution (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to think she didn't realize what she will be getting herself in for by agreeing to appear on SNL.

"...wait, you're not laughing WITH me."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link


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