2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

Or is ambition in this context supposed to be a codeword for "ideas above his station"?

DING DING DING DING

well they can't exactly play the "remember when they used to wear suits" angle can they

maybe the AYERS AYERS AYERS bullshit is a brilliant flood-the-zone move to keep the press off stuff like this:

http://www.slate.com/id/2202046/

look at what Petraeus—not just the architect of the Iraqi counterinsurgency strategy but also Sen. John McCain's demigod—said on Oct. 8, toward the end of an hourlong address to the neocon elite at the Heritage Foundation.

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Asked about a British officer's recent statement that at some point, we'll have to strike a deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, Petraeus said, matter-of-factly, "You have to talk to enemies."

He added that the British know this especially well, as they've "sat down with thugs throughout their history, including us, I suspect."

Petraeus quickly added that, of course, you have to go into the talks with an agenda, and you have to know what your objectives are. But his point and these particular caveats are consistent with the distinction that Obama has repeatedly made between "preparations" and "preconditions"—the former being common sense and the latter being an insistence that the other side satisfy our demands before we so much as sit down with them (a position that even President Bush, its most dogmatic advocate, has recently begun to reconsider, especially in North Korea).

looooooooool

obama won't ignore and and i bet he brings that up next week

I can't believe I was ever concerned about this election.

Well, "concerned" is maybe too strong, "disbelieving about what I thought I was perceiving" is probably more accurate.

the ayers shit is meant to mobilize more than convert, i suspect. the problem with that strategy is i think it will also mobilize the left.

california is closer but still not looking good

even if Prop 8 passes, courts can still strike it down. Ultimately this is all gonna come down to a Supreme Court decision.

Re: Petraeus, this was mentioned in an interview with him in a Dutch newspaper as well yesterday.

Desperation in GOP-land: my mom still wondering why ACORN voter fraud isn't being reported and why Obama won't answer questions about Ayers. LOL. Also: "All the stuff you're bringing up is coming from bloggers. You ought to know better, being a journalist." LOLOLOLOL. This mere moments after she went 'wow, cool' to news that Nick Currie now blogs for the NYT. Disconnect?

Me: "Most of the things you bring up aren't getting any traction anywhere but Fox." Also LOL you don't understand what ACORN even does and YO Annenberg Foundation.

suzy, send yr mom this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html

It's being talked about.

i just don't understand how the fox talking heads can claim the polls are showing a clear obama lead due to voter fraud. do they not understand what polls are versus elections?

^^^ this very salient point is also made in the linked CNN article

The forms included registrations submitted in the names of the dead -- and in one case, the name of a fast-food restaurant, Jimmy Johns.

lol I thought about Jimmy Johns for the first time in forever today

they registered the whole dallas cowboys football team :/

I'm officially disconnecting myself from my mom for good, after i got this gem in an email from her.

"God Brian, it would be so much easier if someone could just kill both Obama and McCain and we could elect Sarah Palin."

Sent to Block list.

Unless I hear she's getting the help she needs, she's out of my family (which basically leaves me with no one left on my maternal side. Makes things easier.)

WOW

uh waht

That's terrifying.

Again, thank god she votes in California, where her vote would mean nothing anyway, and she's illiterate when it comes to armed weapons.

tell her to move to Alaska

i ate jimmy johns two days ago!

Phew. Damn. So sorry to hear that.

(To Mackro, rather than gbx, but you never know.)

what the hell is jimmy johns

it's too bad we can't kill all four of them and elect http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/WidowOfDestiny/Jiggle_Panda.gif

^^ truth bomb

xp lol, momz wants to move to

a) the boonies of Ireland (I kid you not)
b) Washington state

in that order.

She won't do either. She's never had a life of her own, nor had to struggle to do anything in her life ever.

(The sad part is that I'll probably won't be visiting L.A. nearly as often anymore. :( But that's for another thread. )

jimmy john's is a midwestern sub chain with 10/10 commercials but only 6/10 subs

Sorry, Brian.

well, maybe things will be better 28 days later...

(pun intended, lol)

last night joe biden would NOT shake my hand because there was lots of old ass women blabbering about health care in front of me but then eventually i tracked him down and got a firm shake

Next time dress in drag.

thanks, Nicole.

now I can actually anwer the Thurston Moore "what do you do when you find out yr mom's a skinhead?" joke.

and it won't be Shakey's answer

Oh, send it straight to the Secret Service. If my mom put something like that in writing I would completely teach her that kind of lesson.

Dan, thanks for that; I tried to explain basically what the story said - that the forms under question have already been weeded out by various ACORN offices as problematic but have to be turned in because you can't throw them away. British media doesn't give a shit about it, fortunately, as it appears not to pass through the Bullshit Needle Eye. She wasn't really interested so I gave up and told her that I was sure that putting the forms through scrutiny was not a big deal or a bad thing. She's also conflating them with giving NINJA mortgages out, when the blame for that shit HAS to go to greedy loan officers on commission just as much and possibly more so. People who work in banks don't give poor people shit unless something's in it for them.

Is the pun that your mother might secretly be a zombie??

gbx: don't tell me, Calhoun Square Jimmy John's?

JJ's is a hoagy shop, schef.

gbx: don't tell me, Calhoun Square Jimmy John's?

BUSTED

Mackro, I sympathize. Mom has been blathering about ACORN for 10 days now.

MY mom basically wants to marry Obama

lol cubans lol white ppl

someone on another message board i was reading suggested palin is popular w/ 'certain groups' because she is essentially a goddess of white fertility for folks concerned about perpetuating the white race

i thought that was pretty perceptive

I thought that was pretty blatant!

i guess it felt like a subtext but i havent seen the words 'fertility goddess' in a single palin thread so far!

Oh yeah definitely -- I picked up on that white-viking shit when it was apparent she couldn't spell Trygg.

My mom LOVED Obama until Reverend Wright "scandal" and it was like she was a jilted suitor thereafter. I keep telling her that any subsequent resentments of the Obamas are the death throes of white entitlement. /psyops

HAHAHAHA the next thread will be 2008 General Election and Bad Food Franchises of Mpls.

My mom likes Sarah Palin and thinks the media has been very cruel and elitist towards her, but is still voting for Obama. Which is shocking to me, since she is usually very conservative.