Radiohead - In Rainbows : What Are You Paying?

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i haven't been, but yeah the only things i've attended using this scheme are museums and rock shows. i always pay it.

sleep, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

... but do i only pay it because PEOPLE ARE WATCHING?? etc

sleep, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

well a lot of those things are nonprofits

dmr, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

> I mean, they're not exactly making it hard, but still a tiny bit harder than normal.

they are making it more *legal* than normal. people seem to forget that.

museums, yes, good point. last couple of times i've been to BM i've gone there to kill 15 minutes. or to see one thing that was shut the time before. and haven't paid. ditto the tate. if i'm going there in order to go there specifically for something (the whiteread boxes) then i do.

look, i pay my taxes, godammit. 8)

(are museums lottery funded, government funded? i forget. i doubt radiohead are)

koogs, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Museums are primarily funded from central government (we're talking UK right?). For the BM it's about 75% of the funding (I think) but also get money from lottery and supporters and, well, just about everywhere they can get it.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

none of the above.

Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

http://blog.limewire.com/posts/564-How-much-did-you-pay-for-the-new-Radiohead-album-


As you probably know, Radiohead's new album, In Rainbows, is currently available for pre-order. Everybody's talking about the band's brilliant marketing plan - - allowing listeners to choose the price they pay for a downloadable copy of their digital album. Quite a unique model.

A co-worker here at Lime Wire decided he wanted to pay $500 for the album. However, the online order form maxed out at £99.99, which came out to $205.81. Come on, Radiohead. People think you're worth more than that.

http://limespot.com/media/7/893,661,159,p,n.png

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

On Oink there's about 11 different requests in various formats (flac, v0, vinyl rip etc) totalling over 11,000.

So not everyone wants to sign up to download legally.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

And of course people will download (illegally) the 2nd disk of tracks.

paulhw, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

NOT REAL FANS (XP)

blueski, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i did 2.50 pounds/$5 + whatever the service fee was...i'd ultimately like to buy it on vinyl without having to spend 80 so hopefully they will do that.

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i did $0.00, will buy the regular plain ol CD when it hits the US next (regardless of whether or not it's any good). don't feel guilty in the least.

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i paid 1.50 plus 0.45 handling charge for the dl. even though i paid next to nothing, i hope the mp3s are good quality, but i cant imagine them being more than 320kbps, which is still nowhere near cd quality.

i did like who i will be charged by though - 'This transaction will appear on your credit card bill as WASTE PRODUCTS LTD'. radiohead must not like mp3s much either.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 4 October 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

W.A.S.T.E. is the name of their company that does their merchandise.

Melissa W, Thursday, 4 October 2007 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

but i cant imagine them being more than 320kbps, which is still nowhere near cd quality.

You what? I thought the consensus was that 256, 320 and cd are indistinguishable by human ears?

StanM, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe he's not human.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:08 (sixteen years ago) link

cds have a kbps of 1378.125 kbit/s which is quite a bit more than a 320 kbps mp3.

titchyschneiderMk2, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:18 (sixteen years ago) link

They"re paying me to listen to it...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 4 October 2007 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

(regardless of whether or not it's any good)

why would you buy it if it's no good

dmr, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, that seemed strange to me, too.

paulhw, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

i did $0.00, will buy the regular plain ol CD when it hits the US next (regardless of whether or not it's any good). don't feel guilty in the least.
-- Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 22:25 (Yesterday) Link

Ditto

why would you buy it if it's no good
-- dmr, Thursday, October 4, 2007 2:45 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

We are completists

stephen, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link

cds have a kbps of 1378.125 kbit/s which is quite a bit more than a 320 kbps mp3

i don't believe anybody who claims they can really hear the difference tho

blueski, Thursday, 4 October 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm surprised you're saying that. You always want to download flac or wavs don't you?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link

only for editing with, not for general listening. i'm happy enough with mp3 as long as the bitrate is high enough (i tend to favour anything higher than 192 inc. VBR just 'in case'), the same way i'm happy with JPEGging all my photos at between 66-75% quality just for looking at on screen as opposed to printing out.

blueski, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't believe anybody who claims they can really hear the difference tho

on good speakers it is remarkably easy. by their very nature MP3s roll off frequencies after 15k regardless of bitrate.

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

if your home system is big and dedicated (mine isn't as i don't really have the space) perhaps you'd notice as that's the only situation you're likely to listen intently enough?

blueski, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

How many discboxes do you think Radiohead will have sold?

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Eight million kajillion.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link

(warning: paper napkin math and wild estimation follows)

As far as Radiohead's revenue goes, if they sell 25,000 discboxes, and make 40 dollars profit on each one (That's with the estimate that the other 40 dollars would go to packaging and shipping costs), that'll be 1 million dollars profit.

Under the old big label model, that would be the equivalent of selling 1 million albums, assuming they only make about a dollar on each one, with the rest of the revenue going to the label for various costs.

So, using those estimates, they'd make as much money selling 25K discboxes as 1 million CDs. If they make more than 40 dollars profit on each discbox, as they likely will, then they don't even need to sell 25K discboxes.

None of this counts the amound they'll pull in cumulatively for people voluntarily paying for the download, either.

Z S, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Since you's have bought eight million kajillion discboxes, we don't have to make money by touring any more, (don't) see ya, suckaz!

thom

StanM, Saturday, 6 October 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I paid about $6 ([pound symbol]2.90).

unperson, Saturday, 6 October 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i paid £3.03 and was pleased to find a link to a youtube clip of derrick may discussing "strings of life" on radiohead's website.

tricky, Sunday, 7 October 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone else paid or registered for a download?

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 8 October 2007 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Rock legends back Radiohead plan

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder what time they'll send out emails.

mh, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Indeed. Will there be server chaos?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

When will I receive my download?

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http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/Advice.html

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

when was the last time you were interested in the new sainsbury's release?

I am interested. I would also like to know who was in the disabled toilet for so long this afternoon. Sainsbury's have got some new little recipe cards, some of which have Jamie Twat Face on them. Also there is a tape that plays in which Jamie says, "Hello, Sainsbury's people". I found that patronising and offensive. When I go to Tesco's I do not have to suffer, say, Dustin Gee saying, "Hello, Tesco tosspots".

As for Radiohead, I much prefer Marillion.

I downloaded some free fIREHOSE the other day, but it was live stuff. They were doing some 70s WHO songs.

PJ Miller, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

When I go to Tesco's I do not have to suffer, say, Dustin Gee saying, "Hello, Tesco tosspots".

That would have to be one hell of a medium!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

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Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

160KBPS = you are sucker if you paid (like me)

tricky, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I like how no one on this thread is reading the other Radiohead thread.

Jordan, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Not true.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe the 160 bitrate is so it cant go on sites like Oink!!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

^ Yeah, OiNK has a minimum bitrate standard of 192...What is it for the other popular torrent sites?

Z S, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably the same! Never used them though.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't expect that to win. I was sure the I donated NOTHING and will have a free download and not buy a physical format. would.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

52! No wonder they can afford to give the downloads away for free.

Billy Dods, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link


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