well, the Replacements WANTED to lose. It fits the profile.
this weirdly makes sense to me
― iatee, Tuesday, August 25, 2009
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 00:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I am bummed about the endless delay in the release of Grant Hart's record. It was supposed to be out in 2008, then 2009, now . . .?
How does he sustain himself in his primary job if he isn't releasing new material? Does he tour constantly (it doesn't seem like he has enough of a back cataloge to do that forever).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 26 August 2009 00:32 (fourteen years ago) link
the cool thing about both bands is that the replacements sound more like mpls and husker du sounds more like st paul to me― the turdlike genius of Jeff Tweete´ (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:56 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark
― the turdlike genius of Jeff Tweete´ (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:56 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark
Please explain to the few non-Minnesotans here, thanks.
― dad a, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
friend's 12-year-old son is becoming big 'Mats fan
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Alex Chilton is the jam. This band should have been huge.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 26 August 2009 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
― post-contrarian meta-challop 2009 (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:21 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah funny ppl always say that but damn didn't Westerberg make careerist moves the whole way, gradually chasing out Bob and Chris, replacing them with pro dudes and chick from Concrete Blonde cameos....saying "fuck the system" right through his genius punk rants for the acclaimed art film Over The Hedge?
― the turdlike genius of Jeff Tweete´ (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
but both bands are great while they were great
probably a better link for a Pleased to Meet Me poll, but in honor of the recently deceased Jim Dickinson:
http://www.memphisflyer.com/memphis/Content?oid=oid%3A48990
― feed them to the (Linden Ave) lions (will), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
easy tiger, Westerberg did the music for acclaimed art house film Open Season. Ben Folds did Over The Hedge.
― Brio, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
lol my bad
― the turdlike genius of Jeff Tweete´ (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
also the whole st paul vs mpls thing i can't really put in words but st paul feels different than mpls and the bands fit that
― the turdlike genius of Jeff Tweete´ (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
shootin dirty pool
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 26 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
there's tons to be said for either, of course; if forced to chose, my love for "In a Free Land" and my hatred of the last couple Replacements albums would tip me to the Dü.
― Michael Train, Thursday, 27 August 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
why can't they both win
― henry s, Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:59 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark
― 丫 power (dyao), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link
How much rivalry was there between these two? Saw them both play Metro one weekend around 1986 (Replacements Friday, Husker Du Saturday) and Mould made some crack along the lines of, "[sniffing sounds] ... This mike smells like coke ... guess the Replacements were just here ..."
― dad a, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
"...Break the Mould!"
― Half lies and gorilla dust (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, good God, it's an absolute disgrace that Husker Du won this. Husker Du's albums are crap, even the ones that are supposedly great. Bland, boring, and repetitive, they have maybe a handful of good songs, while the Replacements have dozens of great songs and a hell of a lot more variety too. Does anyone even listen to Husker Du anymore? I think they're only revisited because they always end up in critic's choice lists, not because anyone likes or relates to these songs.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
are you familiar with the word "challops"?
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
Sir, I have listened to Husker Du. Husker Du records have come in and out of my record collection. Their albums are tedious, monotonous, and poorly produced. Husker Du, sir, are complete crap.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
nuh-uh
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Name one Husker Du song that's better than, say, "Androgynous." ONE!
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
"Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely"
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
"Celebrated Summer"
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
alternately: "Hare Krishna"
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
"Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill"
"Turn On The News"
"Keep Hanging On"
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
"Green Eyes"
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
"The Baby Song"
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
"She's A Woman"
"She Floated Away"
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
"Makes No Sense At All"
you guys, he said "one"
― an independent online phenomenon (DJP), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
"Pink Turns To Blue"
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
"Too Far Down"
nah, that was u2 iirc
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhbrMgSfR0w
― i love the large auns pictures! (Phil D.), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
― Waterloo? Oh, we've sunsetted that. (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:47 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Okay, let's not get carried away.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
I like an Irish drinking song as much as anyone else, but
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
Always member seeing that described in Melody Maker as a heavy metal sea shanty.
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
don't think it's really arguable that Husker Du are more monochromatic/limited in scope than the 'Mats. kinda amazed they won this poll - I never want to listen to either much these days, but the 'Mats stuff is at least fun. So much of Husker Du's output is horribly thin-sounding and terribly produced, I find it actively painful to listen to that high-end hissing wall of guitars sometimes.
― Jilly Boel and the Eltones (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ this. 'Mats>>>Huskers for me, both live and recorded, but HD live was an undeniable maelstrom, like sticking your head in a jet engine (with pop hooks buried beneath the roar.)
If you've never seen this, complete show '85.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnJfONKJZV8&feature=related
― Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
"I can't find anything appealing about Huskers" = "other people are only pretending to like Huskers"
It's the old Schoenberg challops all over again
― aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
I get the whole thin-sounding production argument against the Hüskers. (I kinda dislike Warehouse more for its production than the Spot records, to be honest.)
That said, there's still some gutsy songs in there. the cuts on Metal Circus, bass-heavy Zen Arcade shit like "Something I Learned Today" or "Standing by the Sea". Yeah, it gets tinny. If you want muddy though, go listen to Tim. (Another great record with bad production.)
Replacements are more organic maybe, to a point, but that doesn't mean they're better.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
don't think it's really arguable that Husker Du are more monochromatic/limited in scope than the 'Mats.
Totally agree. You hear one Husker Du song, you've kind of heard them all. I just took the liberty to listening to 5 of the above listed songs in succession, and they all mine pretty much the exact same territory with the one pitiful exception of "The Baby Song." Jesus, how did Bob Mould let that get on an album?
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
The production may not always have been great, but to say the Du were "Bland, boring, and repetitive" is just nonsense. As for variety, I would argue that Husker Du had two great song writers who both mined different seams and came up with wildly different sets of songs.
― good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Are you tone deaf? You could also say (I wouldn't) that songs like "Lay It Down Clown" and "Little Mascara" pretty much come from the exact same grain.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
This is a tough one, but I gotta say Husker Du based on little more than personal preference.
But then, I'll admit- all of their records have terrible production and uneven song quality. The Replacements sound much better as a band and have a considerably higher percentage of good songs to bad ones. Westerberg's voice is untouchable, and their hooks were gigantic.
It took me years to get into Husker Du, and I frequently avowed that they sucked. But then, once, as I sat in the parking lot of my shitty job, blasting music from my shitty car stereo, frustrated to no end by the shitty circumstances of my life, "Pride" by Husker Du came on, and everything suddenly clicked all at once.
In spite of their uneven qualities, Husker Du channels rage, angst and frustration unlike any band from that time. Their music is truly desperate, and I connected with it during those times more than I ever have with the Replacements, songwriting be damned.
― ghosttaster, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
Ghosttaster OTM. I had more or less the same experience - love the Mats albums and later came to Husker via solo Bob and Sugar, but only selected songs as none of their albums satisfy me entirely.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link