2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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MLK is Oh Snap specifically because McCain and other racists voted against. I'll get back to you with ways McCain could be Landon Regurgitated but I could be some time.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 10 October 2008 08:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Apropos of guilt-by-a-few-steps-of-separation etc, was this posted here yet?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

The planned 1993 speech to the United Nations of Joe Vogler of the Alaska Independence Party was sponsored by Iran...

anatol_merklich, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.topcosales.us/_images/products/0231-7_lg.jpg

topcosales.us:

This Is not Sarah Palin Inflatable Love Doll

• Sarah Palin makes sexism sexy
• Cross party lines with your own inflatable running mate
• Three ways to do this doll: mouth, pussy or ass
• Give her a mouthful
• Blow her up and show her how you’re going to vote
• Let her pound your gavel over and over
• Bypass the Bush and have some MILF
• It’s time some male interns caused a scandal in the Capitol
• She’s the hottest thing to come out of Alaska in years

Ugh...

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 October 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought only elderly gold prospectors in old movies said doggonit.

Nicole, Friday, 10 October 2008 12:30 (fifteen years ago) link

What time are they going to release the real Troopergate findings? Anticipation of this event (and scoffing at the exoneration the McCain/Palin camp has given her in its own fake report) was all over the British news.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 10 October 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

No worries: Palin exonerates herself.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 10 October 2008 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

guys, obama is nefariously colluding with African leaders or some shit, and there is EMAIL PROOF

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/misc/ObamaLipperone.jpg

that's right -- RAILAODI✧✧✧@YA✧✧✧.C✧✧

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

raila odinga at yahoo dot com

DO YOU SEE

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link

do you see how Obama tells Odinga how to set up secret channels of correspondence through Mark Lippert, and how... how Obama replies... Obama replies and thanks Odinga and gives him Lippert's email address... so... wait.

Wait a minute.

This doesn't any fucking sense.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

This video Jonah posted (showing the formation of a fetus in its first 24 hours) will certainly keep people from getting abortions! Look - you can see it's fingernails. All twelve thousand of them moving around!!

hahah really? -- if you click through, that video is of a FISH EMBRYO!

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Friday, 10 October 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Letter to the NYT from the guy who actually led prosecution the Weathermen:

Re “Politics of Attack” (editorial, Oct. 8) and “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths” (front page, Oct. 4):

As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof

Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

Lolcats ate mah baby! (kingfish), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

oh deep throat

David R., Friday, 10 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

paws

David R., Friday, 10 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

During a stop in Grand Rapids on Thursday, Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican U.S. senator from Rhode Island, said he's voting for Obama and urging others to do likewise.

Lolcats ate mah baby! (kingfish), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I was just coming here to post that, Kingfish. As this blogger puts it:

Got that? The indictment of Weathermen failed because of illegal wiretaps and other corrupt behavior on the part of a Republican administration.

(And for those of you who remember your history, W. Mark Felt is none other than Deep Throat which, since he colluded in this illegal activity, should give you some indication of how seriously lawless Nixon was that he agreed to become the Watergate whistleblower.)

Dow 30,000 by 2008 (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"Rally supporters urge McCain to get more aggressive with Obama"
(To put it mildly...)

"Terrorist!” one man screamed Monday at a New Mexico rally after McCain voiced the campaign’s new rhetorical staple aimed at raising doubts about the Illinois senator: “Who is the real Barack Obama?”

"He's a damn liar!” yelled a woman Wednesday in Pennsylvania. "Get him. He's bad for our country."

At both stops, there were cries of, “Nobama,” picking up on a phrase that has appeared on yard signs, T-shirts and bumper stickers.

And Thursday, at a campaign town hall in Wisconsin, one Republican brought the crowd to its feet when he used his turn at the microphone to offer a soliloquy so impassioned it made the network news and earned extended play on Rush Limbaugh’s program.

“I’m mad; I’m really mad!” the voter bellowed. “And what’s going to surprise ya, is it’s not the economy — it’s the socialists taking over our country.”

After the crowd settled down he was back at it. “When you have an Obama, Pelosi and the rest of the hooligans up there gonna run this country, we gotta have our head examined!”

...

John Weaver, McCain’s former top strategist, said top Republicans have a responsibility to temper this behavior.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, the differences with Sen. Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared to Sen. McCain,” Weaver said. “And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm, we might get the culture wars back in things again here:

Breaking News 11:39 AM ET:
Connecticut State Supreme Court Overturns Ban on Same-Sex Marriage

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

cultural war + economic thunderdomin' = maybe i should buy ammo

the valves of houston (gbx), Friday, 10 October 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll get the scrap metal.

David R., Friday, 10 October 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh my god socialism in America AND gay marriage too- this will be the best Christmas EVER!

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Friday, 10 October 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

and the best war on Christmas yet!

Lolcats ate mah baby! (kingfish), Friday, 10 October 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Betty White FTW:

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 10 October 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Christopher Buckley endorses Obama.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

During a stop in Grand Rapids on Thursday, Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican U.S. senator from Rhode Island, said he's voting for Obama and urging others to do likewise.

Chafee is RINO anyway (in fact, he isn't even a registered Republican now). he's more liberal than a fair number of democrats.

akm, Friday, 10 October 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

As someone who HATES doing the absentee ballot because I've always gotten satisfaction from nailing my vote at the voting booth itself, I'm already planning to do absentee voting once the ballots come this election. (Oct 15th in Washington state), because I'm sensing some scary shit planned to sabotage voting booths on Election Day itself all across the U.S. Moreso the battleground states.

But if the last decade taught me anything, the post office is a better catalyst for protecting my vote and has far stiffer punishment for would-be infiltrators than at a voting booth (relatively speaking)

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Friday, 10 October 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

betty white is a national treasure

M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:02 (fifteen years ago) link

someone plz explain why the name of the palin porno isn't "drill baby drill"??

ILX MOD (musically), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Meanwhile Florida's Amendment 2 looks like it might pass.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Fuck, those rally-attending republicans are scary and creepy.

Dan I., Friday, 10 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

good post on ubl's politics http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/guest-column-will-bin-laden-strike.html

joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently the new attack line on obama re: ayers that he is the victim of AMBITION. because john mccain is a total stranger to ambition. didn't even want to run for the office of president but did so because everyone begged him to. yes. precisely. AMBITION.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 October 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha ha! Hearing a ticket with McCain and Palin on it talk about ambition is hilarious.

Michael White, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought republicans were supposed to be fans of ambition. Or is ambition in this context supposed to be a codeword for "ideas above his station"?

Nicole, Friday, 10 October 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Meanwhile Florida's Amendment 2 looks like it might pass.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, October 10, 2008 12:20 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

this sucks

kgb (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

california is closer but still not looking good

joe 40oz (deej), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Or is ambition in this context supposed to be a codeword for "ideas above his station"?

DING DING DING DING

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

well they can't exactly play the "remember when they used to wear suits" angle can they

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe the AYERS AYERS AYERS bullshit is a brilliant flood-the-zone move to keep the press off stuff like this:

http://www.slate.com/id/2202046/

look at what Petraeus—not just the architect of the Iraqi counterinsurgency strategy but also Sen. John McCain's demigod—said on Oct. 8, toward the end of an hourlong address to the neocon elite at the Heritage Foundation.

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Asked about a British officer's recent statement that at some point, we'll have to strike a deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, Petraeus said, matter-of-factly, "You have to talk to enemies."

He added that the British know this especially well, as they've "sat down with thugs throughout their history, including us, I suspect."

Petraeus quickly added that, of course, you have to go into the talks with an agenda, and you have to know what your objectives are. But his point and these particular caveats are consistent with the distinction that Obama has repeatedly made between "preparations" and "preconditions"—the former being common sense and the latter being an insistence that the other side satisfy our demands before we so much as sit down with them (a position that even President Bush, its most dogmatic advocate, has recently begun to reconsider, especially in North Korea).

goole, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

looooooooool

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

obama won't ignore and and i bet he brings that up next week

omar little, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't believe I was ever concerned about this election.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, "concerned" is maybe too strong, "disbelieving about what I thought I was perceiving" is probably more accurate.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

the ayers shit is meant to mobilize more than convert, i suspect. the problem with that strategy is i think it will also mobilize the left.

omar little, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

california is closer but still not looking good

even if Prop 8 passes, courts can still strike it down. Ultimately this is all gonna come down to a Supreme Court decision.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Re: Petraeus, this was mentioned in an interview with him in a Dutch newspaper as well yesterday.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 10 October 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Desperation in GOP-land: my mom still wondering why ACORN voter fraud isn't being reported and why Obama won't answer questions about Ayers. LOL. Also: "All the stuff you're bringing up is coming from bloggers. You ought to know better, being a journalist." LOLOLOLOL. This mere moments after she went 'wow, cool' to news that Nick Currie now blogs for the NYT. Disconnect?

Me: "Most of the things you bring up aren't getting any traction anywhere but Fox." Also LOL you don't understand what ACORN even does and YO Annenberg Foundation.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

suzy, send yr mom this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html

It's being talked about.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Friday, 10 October 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link


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