Ned, let's talk about your 136 Albums of the 90s.

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"Melodies can't be complex AND simple. They can be complex and catchy
though, and that's how I want them."

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link

Well that would be my bitter, paranoiac underling Brent DiCresenczo, or however you spell his last name. He spends an inordinate amount of time worrying that I'm smarter than him.

What you saw was a catalog of the CDs I bought in (and brought to) college, which I had in an Excel spreadsheet; my roommate from last year converted it to a graphical web DB testing out his MySQL and PHP skills. So yeah, it was mostly white indie and electronic bands from the laet-80s/90s. Off the top of my head though...Tricky, Jeru, Busta, N.W.A., Public Enemy, and Eddie Floyd were in there. James Brown and Bob Marley I had on tapes, for my walkman-- I used to bring it to the studio to drum along to. Feel better now?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

bust that paradigm!

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

(just playin)

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

And of course I'm black but that's beside the point.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

rimshot!

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

hey we're all pink on the inside, brah.

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

Only if the meat isn't cooked thoroughly enough.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

nedibal

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

"hey we're all pink on the inside, brah"

and bloody.

― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLLLLL

― Conor Smedley (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Back to the list, I liked that Strangelove's Time for the Rest of Your Life was on it as I was listening to it the other day for the first time in years and I'd forgotten just how great it was. Really. It is.

I love about half of the albums on that list, like a lot more, and hate the Smashing Pumpkins.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

"and hate the Smashing Pumpkins."
'tis a shame

― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

i am surprised to find i have owned 40 of those albums at some point!

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

You probably shave your sideburns too.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:32 (twenty years ago) link

Only part way up.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

i kill you with guns

― strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

:-(

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

'tis a shame

Wonder what ailsa would think of Zwan, then.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

It seems that the Pumpkins love is the thing for which Ned gets the most general ire. This makes me sad.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:38 (twenty years ago) link

Funny, cause I even like the Pumpkins.

― ddrake, Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

no, it's his goth love.

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

I AM OF THE NIGHT

― Lord Balto the Damned (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:40 (twenty years ago) link

just keep your records with you there, okay, buddy? ;-)

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

im not a zwan fan myself (it's like listening to Weezer's green album), but i only made that comment because being a pumpkins fan has indelibly left me with a sense of romanticism that goes hand in hand with being able to watch movies like "the never ending story" with just as much of an awe of the human imagination as i had when i was 5. whether you consider that a good thing or not, i dont know, but i certainly love it.

― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:42 (twenty years ago) link

romanticism is good but tricky to pull off. so it figures your mileage will vary w/that kind of stuff, as mine does (wildly).

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

just keep your records with you there, okay, buddy? ;-)

Can do. Anyway, I MUST HAVE BLOOD!

http://deknight.hypermart.net/images/DEKNIGHT12.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

it figures your mileage will vary w/that kind of stuff

Pretty much. I get exactly what Felcher is talking about vis-a-vis the Pumpkins but it's also perfectly obvious that it doesn't and won't connect for everyone. Friend Stripey, for instance, has always said that she enjoys the music but simply can't get past Corgan's vocals.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

(Ned, you DO know Balto was a shaggy loveable hound, not Cujo? If you plan to claim Goth, tis important to get the breed correct)

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:46 (twenty years ago) link

There can be more than one Balto.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

"but it's also perfectly obvious that it doesn't and won't connect for everyone"
im not faulting ailsa's taste for not liking the pumpkins, only sad that she's missing out on all the great experiences i've had with their music. im sure she's had many of the same with artists i cant stand.

― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:49 (twenty years ago) link

see, with me the Pumpkins are pretty great for two albums and change but then they get all darksider and shit and I can't deal.

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 30 October 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

Personal choice? Never heard of such a thing! I actually liked Mellon Collie, but that's just me.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:03 (twenty years ago) link

I have seen the Smashing Pumpkins live. I own a copy of Gish. They still do nothing for me. I have never knowingly heard Zwan, and I have no great desire for this to change.

Note there is a huge difference between me hating them and them being bad (see "best" v "favourite" thread and put it in reverse).

Move along please...

(x-post)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's a good list, strict caucasian-ness aside. There are lots of records I think are on it as they should be, and relatively few I'd say shouldn't. (Few enough I'd say I might be short-shrifting them, even...though I'm not sure I'll be buying any Pumpkins or Goo Goo Dolls records to find out.) Plus it's got Divine Styler, a pick which--like the hair--confirms my privately-held theory Ned is my friend Andy Zax's benign doppelganger.

― M Specktor (M Specktor), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:12 (twenty years ago) link

Also, where's Gene?

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

DEAD AND BURIED. Oh if only...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

See what I said about the Smashing Pumpkins up there? MattDC said it better here

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

(er, scroll down a bit)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

DEAD AND BURIED. Oh if only.....

Wish granted, as I haven't heard anything new in ages. Wonder if Martin Rossiter is now struggling in his local KFC?

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

no he's working on his long-awaited triple-CD entitled "Ned Hates Me But I Shall Love Him 'til I Die

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

For Nicole

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

I should start a Gene picture thread, just for Ned.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

Only thing wrong with the Afghan Whigs' "Gentlemen" on the list is that it's not in the top 10.

-- J0hn Darn1elle (edito...), October 30th, 2003 4:45 PM. (J0hn Darn1elle) (later)

SECONDED

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

Gene proved, on the strength of an album that was never even released in the US, that they still had their fanbase in L.A. at least

...poor dopes.

I should start a Gene picture thread, just for Ned.

Feel free. You'll be receiving your Carrot-Top photos via mail shortly.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

Check out ILE...

― Nicolars (Nicole), Thursday, 30 October 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

I was going to ask "Where's Menswe@r?" and then...

― Aaron A., Friday, 31 October 2003 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

This is the best Top 136 list I've ever seen. The review of Loveless is the best ever. Selected Ambient Works II is there. This is probably the closest Swervedriver's Raise ever came to getting the respect is deserves. I was a little disappointed at the abscence of the early Melvins and Monster Magnet records though after the great reviews on AMG. Not enough love for metal or hip-hop though.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

There were 136 new answers in this thread before I posted to it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 31 October 2003 00:35 (twenty years ago) link

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