Is it bad for a baby to see you masturbating?

Sure they're aware, and I'm not suggesting a shield, but I am saying that there's a big difference between "mom and dad are doing something private and I have some ideas about it" and "dad has his cock out." "Aware" isn't the same as "exposed to."

Okay, what it boils down is, can an infant less than a year old thgink "dad has his cock out", and be somehow traumatized by it? If you think so, I guess there's no point in further debate.

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Mädchen, do you think that, for example, parent who have sex in their bedroom while their baby is in the crib in the same room should be put to trial?

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And to what?

(Tuomas: the infant doesn't have language, so it can't think "dad's playing with his boner." But he/she does know something's going on, and saves the information its its little brane. This theory can be taken to ridiculous ends of speculation - $c13n+0l0gy for example - but the core's true: infants are aware, and the things you see shape your opinion. It is not healthy to see your father masturbating at any age, unless you paid cash money for it and are allowed to film it, in which case it's cool.

Have an apple, it's Nature's Toothbrush.

-- J.D. (aubade8...) (webmail), December 5th, 2005. (Justyn Dillingham) (later)

If people really can't see the any difference between what I'm saying and justifying incest, then I guess there's no point at all in having this conservation.

Tuomas: the infant doesn't have language, so it can't think "dad's playing with his boner." But he/she does know something's going on, and saves the information its its little brane. This theory can be taken to ridiculous ends of speculation - $c13n+0l0gy for example - but the core's true: infants are aware, and the things you see shape your opinion. It is not healthy to see your father masturbating at any age, unless you paid cash money for it and are allowed to film it, in which case it's cool.

I don't think there's any clear consensus on development psychology on what the child is aware of (a small infant probably is aware of movement, but how on earth can it attach a concept like "masturbation" - or any concept at all - to it, which would be necessary for it to "remember" dad wanking later on), and especially on whether and how things in our infancy affect us, so you're only presenting one theory here.

That was just in the 90s with Dutroux. He's locked up now.

so in brief, it's all cultural conditioning, except for when it isn't.

cf. Exploding Testicle Syndrome

Because wanker needs the baby there to get hottttt.

although i reckon one can be cultually conditioned to think otherwise.

with their genitals growing bigger and then stuff squirting out of it.

You know some very special women, Ken.

"Why are we here?"
"Where did we come from?"
"Is it okay to masturbate in front of the baby before we go?"
"Are those nachos?"

Hey, if you want to be a cultural/moral relativist, there's no good reason not to go all the way.

for sure society could stand to loosen up about sexuality a little, but exposing infants to adult sexuality is surely not the place to start.

you can't have your cake and eat it too.

It doesn't beat the best thread ever (and coincidentally the FIRST on ILX).

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