i think it's more about the WHOA factor than anything
― The Macallan 18 Year, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
they put jam and peanut butter together in one jar??
WHOA.
― The Macallan 18 Year, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I think this is terrible. I know the original too well and I'm just thinking the whole time, "just rap over the whole original, or don't rap at all".
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
cola bottle baby >>>> vocoder bits
― abanana, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
haven't heard it yet but I gotta agree the concept sounds pretty played
all the stuff vahid mentioned + Busta already did a whole DP remake with "Touch It"
― dmr, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
there's a sendspace link inside this EVIL EVIL THREAD from an EVIL EVIL BOARD
http://www.ateaseweb.com/mb/index.php?showtopic=235008430&view=getnewpost
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
the most interesting part of this song is trying to figure out when he says "i'll do anything for anything for a blonde dyke / and she'll do anything for the limelight / and we'll do anything when the time's right" if he's talking about an actual celebrity or just a figment of his imagination
i also like the line "since prince was on appollonia / since OJ had isotoners / don't act like i never told you"
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
he;s looking quite robotic himself these days
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060821/kaye_west.jpg
more jude law in AI than ralf and florian though ...
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Just another case of a human stealing robot-American music and bastardizing/popularizing it.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
listening to the mixtape intro (full sample of DP track this time) i want to punch dude and break jaw again "yes, the polo is versace if you were wondering". no i wasn't.
― jaxon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Sorry, Franco-Robot!!!
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
k, stronger is pretty rad
k, now he's either sampling radiohead or coldplay or travis or something that sounds like those dudes
― jaxon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, balls to this.
(do still wanna hear t-pain on it tho)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost
Why is exposing something of such high quality (HBFS) to the masses a bad thing? Regardless of whether DP has been sampled before in hip hop, I say more sampling of Daft Punk into hip hop is always a good thing. The track could've expanded on the sample more but it ain't exactly a terrible effort by Kanye. I was expecting way worse.
He has Iron Giant jaws in that photo.
― Spinspin Sugah, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.hhv.de/images/cover6/91597_1.jpg
http://www.hhv.de/images/cover6/91597.jpg
forgot how sexy this pic disc was!! is it worth any these days
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
i've heard really great things abou that song, but i don't think i've heard it. leo?
― jaxon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
i think i hate kanye.
― funny farm, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
whoa, sing-rapping over peter, bjorn and john. i really do want to hate him, but there's a lot of good shit on this mixtape. maybe if i ignore what he says.
― jaxon, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i only recently noticed the chorus hook on Nine Inch Nails 'Only' sounds like a lift from 'Cola Bottle Baby' (at 00:41).
― blueski, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
does it suck to hate fun so much
― max, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link
god this mixtape is fucking painful
i'm just so underwhelmed by what he does with the songs. like on 'young folks' i was expecting a total kanye-style 'AND WE DONT CARE ABOUT EM YOUNG FOLKS' but instead yiiiikes
― nervous, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, I am covetous of that picture disc.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 7 June 2007 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure i hate this, but I CAN'T BE CERTAIN YET do i HAVE to listen to this more?
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
it's rubbish
― Jeb, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I really wanted to like this. I hate it.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link
This shit sucks. Ban Kanye.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I miss Kanye posting.
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 8 June 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link
the vocoder is just fucking distracting
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 8 June 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Aw I wanted to like this too but I don't, same goes for the other single and most of the mixtape. Kanye is still a top notch celebrity tho
― A B C, Friday, 8 June 2007 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link
lol @ uniform negative reaction
― deej, Friday, 8 June 2007 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link
i like this deej, but i have shitty taste in music
― max, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:10 (sixteen years ago) link
God, even I already sampled HBFS in a hip-hop track. SOOOO behind his time. And "Young Folks" is even worse...He better give up on sing-rapping.
― Tape Store, Friday, 8 June 2007 03:25 (sixteen years ago) link
don't like this. talk about writing around the sample. meh.
― blueski, Friday, 8 June 2007 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Yep, he ruined the song. This is depressing.
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I really wanted to love this. And I do.
― jackl, Friday, 8 June 2007 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link
throw some ds on that bitch
― kl0pper, Friday, 8 June 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cYWfq--Nw
― blunt, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:11 (sixteen years ago) link
That improved my life.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahaha omg that was kind of awesomely clever.
― Trayce, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
basically HBFS is the national anthem of people doing awesome stuff on the internet
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:44 (sixteen years ago) link
por ejemplo
HBFS starts around 4:20
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 24 June 2007 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Pompous Mimes On Speed
― blunt, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link
don't hate
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link
appreciate
― blunt, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i imagine pretty soon we'll hear daft punk in an ice skating routine
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 24 June 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link
those of us who watch ice skating, that is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z8CB0JkuTA
― blunt, Sunday, 24 June 2007 10:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Stronger is amazing, fuck all yall haters!!!!
― musically, Saturday, 4 August 2007 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I like it but I like all kinds of bullshit
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 05:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I wanted to like this.
― Roz, Saturday, 4 August 2007 06:42 (sixteen years ago) link
It's grown on me. I think the video may have helped.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah it was the video
― marmotwolof, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link
The video is definitely what made it for me, the ridiculous sunglasses and Akira quotes and so on. Same with the Zach Galifilifinikilakolus video for the other single, come to think of it; neither track is particularly strong but damn if his video directors aren't earning their paychecks.
― Telephone thing, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:50 (sixteen years ago) link
this song still sucks
― deej, Saturday, 4 August 2007 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't hate it, but something just sounded wrong about it to me...too slow, or something.
― roxymuzak, Saturday, 4 August 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
I really like the last 30 seconds. I wish the rest was that good.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 4 August 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
DOES ANYBODY MAKE REAL SHIT ANYMORE?
― Jordan Sargent, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
The one thing that bugs me is the Klondike/blonde dyke line...you can just see Kanye coming up with the Klondike line, and searching in vain for something that rhymes with it.
"uh, troglodyte...third reich...tandem bike...okay, blonde dyke, I'll fit that one in somehow."
He is completely forgiven though because the Apollonia line is sheer brilliance.
― musically, Saturday, 4 August 2007 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link
So tragic. Listening to College Dropout now is tear-inducing nostalgia.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 August 2007 23:46 (sixteen years ago) link
That comes out on Tuesday, right?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 4 August 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^^
― The Reverend, Sunday, 5 August 2007 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link
That comes out on Tuesday, right?-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, August 4, 2007 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, August 4, 2007 11:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 5 August 2007 05:10 (sixteen years ago) link
unless you're talking about the single, but even that doesn't come out 'til the 21st
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 5 August 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I was making an oblique joke about how these days we seem to go from hype to leak to backlash/disillusionment to nostalgia really quickly these days.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 August 2007 07:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i really cant wait until this thread is unearthed 30 years from now when everyone realizes how good this is and you all apologize to me for being so rong
― max, Sunday, 5 August 2007 07:09 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost I thought maybe it was an oblique joke about how all albums come out on tuesdays
― bernard snowy, Sunday, 5 August 2007 13:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I was making an oblique FAILED joke about how these days we seem to go from hype to leak to backlash/disillusionment to nostalgia really quickly these days.
-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 August 2007 07:03
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 5 August 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"stronger" vs. "ayo technology" for hip-hop single of the year.
― Jordan Sargent, Sunday, 5 August 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link
That's funny, because the dance station I listen to plays a sped up version of it that I think is terrible.
― musically, Sunday, 5 August 2007 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I get the feeling that Kanye knows this isn't his strongest stuff. What musically says above is one indication. That this is all over the place thematically is another. I have no idea what this song's point is.
The worst part for me, though, is the line, "So go ahead go nuts go ape shit." Bravado is nothing new, but this a step too far - this makes the listener self-conscious. I'll go ape shit when I damn well feel like it, thanks.
― Wookie Rookie, Sunday, 5 August 2007 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link
LOL @ this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/80-disco-punk-electro-KANYE-WEST-STRONGER-sunglasses_W0QQitemZ270149937933QQihZ017QQcategoryZ48559QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
― The Brainwasher, Sunday, 5 August 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
On July 3, 2007, West told Zane Lowe on BBC Radio 1 that although he believes "Stronger" is "a great song", it does not compare to the Daft Punk original.[2]
― The Reverend, Sunday, 5 August 2007 23:28 (sixteen years ago) link
On July 3, 2007, West told Zane Lowe on BBC Radio 1 that although he believes "Stronger" is "a great song", it does not compare to the Daft Punk original.[2]-- The Reverend, Sunday, 5 August 2007 23:28 (19 minutes ago)
-- The Reverend, Sunday, 5 August 2007 23:28 (19 minutes ago)
Welcome to the party, Kanye, better late than never! in other breaking news, the Allies win World War II. /sarcasm
― groutexpectations, Sunday, 5 August 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link
the track "Champion" from Graduation will sample Steely Dan's "Kid Charlemagne"...
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3191235282d37d/
― Preview of the Matrix 12, Saturday, 18 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, that "Daft Hands" video is really great!
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 21 September 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link
it just hit me today that this song sucks in the exact same way as "Come With Me"
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^^^
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link
haha I may be the only person on earth, but I actually like "Come With Me". I'm completely predisposed to that type of megalomaniacal event song.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahah, I also like "Come With Me" and now suspect my gradual begrudging appreciation of "Stronger" is undergirded by that same force. Apparently it's just a cycle: every ten years, hip hop's reigning producer/performer guy must sample a beloved track (with pretenses of collaborating with the original artist on an actual new recording) and inflate it to ludicrous proportions of melodrama with no actual narrative. The fans of the original track must cry out in rage but the public makes its choice.
(Actually, how successful was "Come With Me"? Surely "Stronger" was a bigger hit by an order of magnitude...)
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 June 2008 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Big difference, I can't really imagine dancing to "Come With Me" or hearing it in any context other than alt-rock radio.
I like that one line where he's like "Try and trap me - bad rap." I knew a guy in high school that was like "See?! He knows the song sucks, he even admits it! (mimes Puffy shaking his head in shame) "Bad rap."
Another great line: "I cosigned it!"
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 June 2008 05:59 (fifteen years ago) link