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― Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― cybele, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
There's lots of great earlier reggae too: I'm particularly fond of Clancy Eccles's productions, Amalgamated-era Joe Gibbs, a lot of Bunny Lee stuff and Winston 'Niney' Holness, probably the heaviest of the early reggae fellows.
A step back a little further to rocksteady can't do any harm, either: the golden age of Treasure Isle.
The other thing I think should be mentioned in this thread is Studio 1. The greatest body of work in Jamaican music bar none. You can never go wrong with the series of "Best of Studio 1" compilations which Heartbeat put out which span early reggae to roots stuff. LPs? I's start with "Bob Andy's Songbook", Cedric 'IM' Brooks's "Flash Forward", "The Wailing Souls" and "Bobby Bobylon" by Freddie Macgregor. But there's loads more to be found.
My other *real* thing at the moment is 70s Gregory Isaacs. More Gregory. Gregory, Horace Andy and Junior Byles are three of my top 10 voices ever.
― Tim, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― m jemmeson, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
The first version I had of that LP (which was a taped version of a Jamaican pressing on Joe Gibbs with the primarily yellow sleeve and a colour version of the photo) had a little reprise / dub of the last track on the second side. Just about 45 seconds of wild dubbing on "Under Heavy Manners". I've heard vinyl and CD reissues on Gibbs and never found another version with that little coda, and it upsets me a little. Anyone have any versions which do have the little end bit? (BTW, it's not the same as the various dub versions I have of the rhythm).
mj, do you have "Prophecy Reveal" by Bo Jangles? I know it was re- pressed a while back but I've never found it. Is it on the "Money In My Pocket" rhythm?
― M. Matos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
I work for a publishing company and we will be reissuing Beth Lesser's "King Jammy" - it is the definitive book on 80s dancehall. Beth is also a photographer--her work has appeared in the Rough Guide, among other publications.
Just for interest sake, is anyone on this thread (or any dub/reggae fans) intrigued?
― Ian, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Andrew L, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Bim Sherman's 'Miracle', while not exactly Reggae, is still utterly wonderful.
― Johnathan, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
The first dub album? I forget, but one of them. One of the craziest too. Mad loping grooves, everything and the kitchen sink samples before there were samples.
Lee Scratch Perry--Super Ape
Primo mid-70s Scratch. Smooth, rootsical, deep, hypnotic...
― Ben Williams, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― jess, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Ben Williams, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
But never mind me and my minor griping. Have I thanked you all for your recommendations yet? I haven't gone out and bought anything, mind you, but when I do, you'll be the 10th or 11th to know.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
You just can't get it loud enough at home. It's gotta be so heavy that you can feel the bass from your fingers through to your toes. I'd pay $25 for that--then again, I'm Canadian. Don't know whether I'd pay $25 US.
― jk, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Mark, Thursday, 1 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― m jemmeson, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Bring on the Scratch, Jammy, and Tubby...and forward the bass.
― cybele, Friday, 2 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Dr. C, Tuesday, 13 November 2001 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Soon Forward and Mr. Isaacs are incredible. Smooooth mofo.
A step back a little further to rocksteady can't do any harm
Love love love rocksteady. Anybody who likes American soul music should check into it. Some favorites: John Holt (and the Paragons), Slim Smith (and the Techniques/Uniques), Pat Kelly, Ken Boothe, The Heptones.
The Pressure Sounds comps are great too.
The Royals singles compilation on Pressure Sounds, 'Pick Up the Pieces', has been kicking my ass recently. Classic from beginning to end. Dubwise, the Joe Gibbs comp. 'No Bones for the Dogs' is quality throughout as well.
Other shit that I've been hooked on and can usu be found at a good price: Delroy Wilson 'Good All Over' (rocksteady at the cusp of reggae), Dub Over Dub (27 tracks of Errol Thompson's mixing, with solid tracks as a base), the Wailing Souls self-titled debut (superb, utterly beautiful singing and catchy yet rough tunes), Scientist vs Space Invaders (um, it's early 80s Scientist. nuff said), Gladiators 'Proverbial Reggae' (you know reggae is the shit when an album this good hardly gets discussed)
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 21 June 2003 07:10 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 07:37 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 07:45 (9 years ago) Permalink
Born Fi Dead by Laurie Gunst is also essential to get that time, tho less about music than politics.
Ian, check Jammyland in the East Village. Might be more $8-$12 but the selection is all essential. Everything above and more. In JA fashion, will play you 45s and LPs if you ask. If you can make it out to Moodies in the north Bronx, it's also amazing. More stuff straight from JA distributors. VP, of course, too in Queens.
― Jeff Chang, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:09 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Jeff Chang, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:28 (9 years ago) Permalink
Trojan repackaging Open The Gate as Disco Devil (pretty awesome tracklist though):
Norman – Max Romeo & the UpsettersBad Weed – Junior MurvinI Forgot to Be Your Lover (aka To Be a Lover) – George FaithKnow Love – Twin RootsRainy Night in Portland – Watty BurnettDisco Devil – Lee Perry & Full ExperienceCity Too Hot – Lee PerryWords – Sangie Davis & Lee PerryRoots Train - Junior Murvin & DillingerOpen the Gate – Watty BurnettNeckodememus – The CongosRasta Train – Raphael Green & Doctor AlimantadoKetch Vampire – Devon Irons & Doctor AlimantadoHistory (Of Civilisation) – Carlton JacksonSons of Slaves – Junior DelgadoParty Time – The HeptonesFree Up the Prisoners – Lee 'Scratch' PerryGarden Of Life – Leroy Sibbles
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:07 (6 months ago) Permalink
I apparently missed that TROJAN did re-ish the original Jamaican version of To Be A Lover as:
http://www.amazon.com/Super-Eight-George-Faith/dp/B007EN9KUC/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1352174904&sr=1-1&keywords=george+faith+super+eight
So there you go.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 04:09 (6 months ago) Permalink
It's not the "original Jamaican version," but rather the Island version in the original sleeve. I'm sad to say . . .
― crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 08:02 (6 months ago) Permalink
Is there a difference? I haven't heard of one (though I've never looked, I always thought "TBAL" the weakest of Perry's run of late 7s Island LPs.)
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
(Still v v good though, obv.)
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:21 (6 months ago) Permalink
Yeah I think it's basically the same mix slightly reordered and with an add'l track.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
No additional track, the Trojan page just makes it look like there are nine songs instead of eight. It's the same mix, I have the JA version, which is pretty different, so this is just deceptive marketing on Teojan's part.
That said, I think this album is underrated. Not as good as the Congos' work with Perry, but more solid than Junior Murvin's "Police And Thieves" as an album, and to my ears about as cool as "Super Ape" - the primary difference being that this album pays homage to American soul of the period rather than dub and insanity.
― crustaceanrebel, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 15:45 (6 months ago) Permalink
Yeah Upsetter.net was what indicated the add'l song.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:14 (6 months ago) Permalink
I love the George Faith album. Has anyone heard "Lee Scratch Perry Presents Candy Mckenzie"?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:25 (6 months ago) Permalink
I love Yabby U (You) and have just ordered the new collection on Pressure Sounds. Clips sound terrific. Figured some people reading this thread would be interested. The ltd ed. 2xLP is only 67 copies (>65 now :)
http://www.pressure.co.uk/store/PS77/yabby-you-deeper-roots/
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 6 December 2012 07:19 (5 months ago) Permalink
i put this on the youtube. so cool.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
put this up too. great instrumental and awesome proto-rap staple singers sample at the beginning. from 1972.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
whoah wtf how did they do that
― If I was a carpenter, and you were a douchebag (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh man total ear candy
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.johnnyspencer.info/imagetexts16/tubbysinfullswingLK.htm
― ♨ (am0n), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://boomkat.com/cds/620423-keith-hudson-torch-of-freedom
With the Basic Replay imprint now dormant, I was worried that this crucial piece of the Keith Hudson puzzle might never get reissued. But there is now a CD version of Torch of Freedom out and it's a doozy. Wish they'd do vinyl on it but still...
― beta blog, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 21:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
That's funny, my copy of Torch of Freedom just arrived in the mail today, and I was driving around enjoying it deeply. The relative hit "Turn The Heater On" holds up especially well. The sound's great and the packaging is true to the original, with excellent liner notes.
It's tough to recommend Keith Hudson to the reggae novice, since he has a strange (some would say awful) voice and (as the liner notes say, "Keith Hudson's dubs often took the form of meandering instrumentals that would lose all shape after a spliff or two. Impressionistic in feel, it was as if they had no beginning or end." In other words, it's not foe everyone! But I like his odd voice, and there's some sort of zen beauty in his "formless" dubs that's consistent enough that it comes across as a well-defined style, and if you like one or two, you'll probably end up liking most of them. The album is kind of a "showcase" album - meaning the dubs follow the vocal versions.
― crustaceanrebel, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 22:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
i love full-length LPs where the dub follows the vocal mix. kinda my favorite thing. i have two john holt records like this and they are real faves of mine.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 January 2013 00:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Got my copy of Torch of Freedom recently as well. It's really great and a perfect compliment to the Basic Replay reissues. Other than those 3 reissues, the 2 CD collection of Hudson productions, Brand and Pick A Dub are all essentials.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 January 2013 01:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
So I guess Hot Milk is new. Neat.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 January 2013 02:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
THREE releases on Basic Replay? What am I missing on CD - I've got the following:
Brand (Pressure Sounds)Entering The Dragon (Trojan)Flesh Of My Skin (Basic Replay)Greatest Hits, Volume 1 (Sky High & Mau Mau)Pick A Dub (Pressure Sounds)Rasta Communication - Expanded Edition (Greensleeves)Too Expensive (Virgin)Torch Of Freedom (Hot Milk)Studio Kinda Cloudy (Trojan)
I don't have "Playing It Cool." What else is there?
― crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
nuh skin upfrom one extreme to another
― ♨ (am0n), Thursday, 3 January 2013 03:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sorry, i'm replying on my phone so was too brief in my last comment. There are only 2 Basic Replay reissues but I included the Torch of Freedom in my '3 reissues' comment since they're similar in quality and vibe. In addition to what you have, I highly recommend The Hudson Affair 2CD set and you absolutely should get Playing it Cool immediately. I believe most of Nuh Skin Up is on the reissue of Rasta Communication but you should get that if you're missing any of the tracks on there. From One Extreme to Another is a bit spotty in my opinion.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 January 2013 04:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
What is the greatest hits vol1 disc you have?
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 January 2013 04:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
Cool, thanks for the advice. I actually have The Hudson Affair and Nuh Skin Up - just forgot to list them. I don't recall ever having heard about One Extreme To Another, but it looks like it's vinyl only (?)
The Greatest Hits, Volume 1 CD is on a label called Sky High & Mau Mau - I think it was a one-off label, and was put out by his family. Here's the tracklist:
Rasta Country 2:56 (different mix than the one on Rasta Communication)Rasta Side 2:52 Bloody Eyes 3:02 (different mix / version from the one on Rasta Communication) Rasta Communication 2:22 (different version from the one on Rasta Communication)Instant Skank 2:02 Melody Maker (dub) 2:10 Goliat 3:09 (with vocals from U Roy)Riot (dub) 3:00 (seems the same as Soul Syndicate's "Riot," but vaguely different mix)Bouts Up 1:40 True To My Heart 2:09 Though You Knew 2:11Write Me 2:35Write (dub) 2:10Flesh Of My Skin 2:23 (about a minute shorter than the album version, different mix?)Skin (dub) 2:01 (dub version of the song above)In The West Indies 2:24Fight A Revolution 2:02 (same as Fight For Revolution?)Torch Of Freedom 2:23 (very spooky instrumental / dub version, different than the LP version)We Can Work It Out 2:45 (1:48 shorter than the Too Expensive version, but same mix)Too Expensive 2:40 (2:17 shorter than the Too Expensive version, but same mix)Darkest Night 2:50 (same as the version on Flesh Of My Skin)
Some versions are *completely* different, some songs aren't on any of the albums I have, but I don't have "Flesh Of My Skin" handy . . . although the only song that could be the same is the last, I just can't compare it right now. Possibly these are single versions or something. It's a pretty cool collection, though, and worth it for the radically different takes on familiar songs. Holds together well, but long out of print.
I'll trade a CD-R copy (AIFF files direct from CD), especially if anyone could do the same for CD-sourced copies of these way out-of-print titles:
JUNIOR BYLES jordanCLANCY ECCLES & THE DYNAMITES nyah reggae rock THE EQUALS black skin blue eyed boys (double CD version)FLYING LIZARDS top ten CHARLES HAYWARD live in japan: near & far SCIENTIST V PRINCE JAMMY big showdown at king tubby's
. . . but if you don't have those and are desperate, I'll hook you up anyway! Just e-mail.
― crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 3 January 2013 06:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
O/T because DJ not dub but on the subject of Keith Hudson productions it's really worth keeping your eyes peeled for the Militant Barry LP, "Green Valley".
This cut, "Pistol Boy", which concerns Sid Vicious, was legendary to me for years because Ranking Roger out of The Beat namechecked it in Smash Hits in 1980 or something. Took me a long time ot track it down. I'm often surprised it's not cited more often by punk rock historians looking for material evidence of reggae-punk connections and getting a bit stuck after "Punky Reggae Party".
― Tim, Thursday, 3 January 2013 09:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
got some pretty silkscreened dub that will probably end up in france. for now i can gaze lovingly at them. and play them.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
!!! Bloody hell. Have only ever seen one of these, and even that one not in that cover. Guess these are really very rare, huh? What label design, Scott?
― Tim, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
so pretty.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 January 2013 14:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
sick, i bet those go for lots of $$$
― am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
forgot how good this guy is
― am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 17:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
Granny Scratch Scratch is 100%
― bendy, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
no idea re the sounds but i love the cover art on these ..
― mark e, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 20:39 (2 months ago) Permalink
put another dub up that i like.
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 February 2013 17:17 (2 months ago) Permalink
the sibley is v nice, ty - some of the same gospelised feel as george faith stuff like 'to be a lover' tho' considerably rawer
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 28 February 2013 17:30 (2 months ago) Permalink
one more fave i put up today. digi madness!
― scott seward, Thursday, 28 February 2013 18:46 (2 months ago) Permalink
picked this up yesterday
― Donkamole Marvin (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 11 March 2013 18:42 (2 months ago) Permalink
ordered this today
my collection severely lacking in the Horace Andy dept for some reason
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 2 May 2013 16:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Oh, that looks good.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:19 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
watched "Rockers" over the weekend, weird that I had never even heard of this movie until like a year ago
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
can't go wrong with this (if u don't have it yet)
― am0n, Monday, 6 May 2013 16:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink