I always knew David Brooks was an asshole ....

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yeah, thank god that such public strife and invective was never around before the ruling, much less with a war that had been going for for 7+ years by that point...

― kingfish, Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

that's it, Steven Levitt, new book Freakonomics

The very little I've read makes your view look spot on to me with a little PJ O'Rourke BS mixed in for color.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

It's a pretty stupid article. Brooks is a very stupid person.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

ie ignore the link between poverty and crime, instead cheer on poor folks aborting their criminal progeny, etc.

uhhhh

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Shorter Brooks: Can we please just cater to the back of the parade so that Wepublicans and Democwats can go back to pretending to like each other at cocktail parties?

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:28 (8 years ago) Permalink

new book

old idea

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

An old idea that has gotten no better with time and the introduction of calculus.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 21 April 2005 15:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

Can people please stop reading anything David Brooks writes? He's a complete and utter shit-for-brains. He's like the most annoying pundit in America. Alex in SF on point.

I think it would be a lot more interesting to have a thread on Steven Levitt, FWIW.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:01 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'd be more curious about him too, actually.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

Are we so much the Bell-Curve-police that we can't distinguish between "poor folks aborting their criminal progeny" and "folks, many of whom are poor, aborting their unwanted and likely to be unloved and opportunity-less progeny"?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:03 (8 years ago) Permalink

Links to Levitt's working papers:
http://www.src.uchicago.edu/users/levit/workingpapers.htm

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't think the distinction entirely changes the discomfort we're talking about G -- you're right about the "unwanted" part, but Milo's talking more about the "opportunity-less."

David Brooks is way way too harmless and bumbling to ever seem like much of an "asshole." I mean, this is a guy who spent the fall getting regularly PWNED by Mark Shields, of all people. On PBS. Every now and then he dredges up a sentence that can almost pretend to be incendiary, but for the most part he's a total softy, a socially-"bobo" centrist who seems almost geezery and apologetic about his actual geek-conservatism. He's like if Richard Roeper grew up Bush.

― nabiscothingy, Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to decide which out of Richard Roeper or David Brooks is the stupidest now. Fuck this is a mindbender.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Milo's talking more about the "opportunity-less."

all of whom are criminals, obv. one factor may be sufficient, but the combination seems to increase the likelihood.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

but, as i said at the first, i'm not sure at all what milo's saying. he seems to be objecting to his own point.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

The thing that really makes the most uncomfortable about Levitt's thesis regarding abortion and crime rates is that it seems to confuse correlation with causation. (And given his selective sampling I'm not sure about the correlation part, either).

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

All of Levitt's research seems fascinating to me, except the one paper about the NFL betting, which is kind of a "well duh" to me. I suppose depending on your viewpoints and experience a lot of his other research might seem "well duh" to other people but I love this kind of shit, it strikes me that he's actually doing a sort of metrics-based anthropology rather than economics with most of it. I'm always a sucker for that.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 April 2005 16:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

The discomfort is that it makes it seem like Roe v Wade is some kind of twisted eugenics experiment, which it isn't. It treads very close to a lot of scary lines people don't like to talk about.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

He's no doubt fascinating to read, but it's the reliability of Levitt's models that concerns me. Econometrics does a generally crappy job performing what should be relatively simple tasks (at least within the field), such as forecasting general trends in consumer inflation or payroll employment. I'm not sure how far I should trust it to make sense of complex phenomena over extended time series, like changes in crime rates due to Roe V. Wade.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Thursday, 21 April 2005 17:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm objecting to the specious reasoning, gabbneb. Higher rates of abortion and lower rates of crime - which is extrapolated to the 'poor folks be robbing' mentioned first - do not, in any way, share causality. Levitt's model is based on statewide crime figures and doesn't seem to account for the infinite number of variables present. He's referring primarily to 'blue states' - where you've got less social control (easier access to abortion) and urban poverty. You don't think that maybe the rise and end of the crack epidemic, urban renewal initiatives, a decade of relative prosperity, Giuliani-like crime programs etc. might, just maybe, had a wee something

Whereas the red states - coincidentally restricted in abortion - have more rural poverty. The rural poor didn't have as many alleviating social changes over the past decade or two. So is it any shock, say, that their rates of drug abuse (crime) stayed steady or rose?

Then there's also have the other, more disturbing facet of the reasoning (as nabisco alluded to) - lower crime is good, crime rates are highest among the poor, abortion lowers crime rates - aborting the poor lowers crime and is therefore good. It makes it easier, even unconsciously, to dehumanize and criminalize the poor.

My big problem problem with Levitt (maybe his academic research is better, but his pop-cult economics is what I've seen) is that it extrapolates a great deal from very little and then makes broad, ill-informed pronouncements from the data. ie it's the type of shit that belongs in a humor book or PJ O'Rourke column.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 21 April 2005 19:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Rape David Brooks to Save America.

― elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can someone please post the text from his column?

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 22 December 2005 17:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

David Brooks is one of those bright, curious, imaginative people who doesn't have a clue about how his naievity, shortcomings, weaknesses and blind spots affect the legitimacy of his premature and often poorly informed conclusions. These traits naturally make him a leading editorial columnist.

― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Wait, milo, to go back in the way back machine now, did you actually read Levitt's book? Because that's not what he's saying at all. Your mention of Giuliani's programs as if he doesn't delve into those and why they ultimately might not be as effective as people think is what spurred me to ask the question. I don't have the book in front of me (or indeed, anywhere else near me, I borrowed it off someone and had to return it), but I don't think his point was KILL THE POOR or some other neocon nudge nudge nonsense. It rather more comes across as the correlation between abortion rising versus crime declining is just as likely a cause as any of the other things people like to go on about. It's an exercise in making the point that most of the social programs/Giuliani's regime that actually get instituted in urban areas are bullshit and don't actually do anything.

Everyone loves to quote the "abortion lowers crime" blurb but no one seems bothered to actually read what the man wrote in his book.

Fuck David Brooks, why are we talking about him? Also yeah can people start reposting NYT articles? I refuse to BUY a David Goddamn Brooks article.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

When Big Brother Is You
By DAVID BROOKS
Let's play "You're the President." Let's put you in the Oval Office and see what kind of decisions you make in real-world circumstances.

Because you are president, you are briefed each day on terrorist threats to this country. These briefings are as psychologically intense as an episode of "24," with descriptions of specific bad guys and their activities.

This has had a cumulative effect on your psychology. While many of your fellow citizens have relaxed as 9/11 has faded into history, you don't have that luxury. Your briefings, and some terrifying false alarms that haven't been made public, keep you in a perpetual state of high alert.

You know that one of the few advantages we have over the terrorists is technological superiority. You are damned sure you are going to use every geek, every computer program and every surveillance technique at your disposal to prevent a future attack. You have inherited the FISA process to regulate this intelligence gathering. It's a pretty good process. FISA judges usually issue warrants quickly and, when appropriate, retroactively.

But the FISA process has shortcomings. First, it's predicated on a division between foreign and domestic activity that has been rendered obsolete by today's mobile communications methods. Second, the process still involves some cumbersome paperwork and bureaucratic foot-dragging. Finally, the case-by-case FISA method is ill suited to the new information-gathering technologies, which include things like automated systems that troll through vast amounts of data looking for patterns, voices and chains of contacts.

Over time you've become convinced that these new technologies, which are run by National Security Agency professionals and shielded from political influence, help save lives. You've seen that these new surveillance techniques helped foil an attack on the Brooklyn Bridge and bombing assaults in Britain. The question is, How do you regulate the new procedures to protect liberties?

Your aides present you with three options. First, you can ask Congress to rewrite the FISA law to keep pace with the new technologies. This has some drawbacks. How exactly do you write a law to cope with this fast-changing information war? Even if you could set up a procedure to get warrant requests to a judge, how would that judge be able to tell which of the thousands of possible information nodes is worth looking into, or which belongs to a U.S. citizen? Swamped in the data-fog, the courts would just become meaningless rubber-stamps. Finally, it's likely that some member of Congress would leak details of the program during the legislative process, thus destroying it.

Your second option is to avoid Congress and set up a self-policing mechanism using the Justice Department and the N.S.A.'s inspector general. This option, too, has drawbacks. First, it's legally dubious. Second, it's quite possible that some intelligence bureaucrat will leak information about the programs, especially if he or she hopes to swing a presidential election against you. Third, if details do come out and Congressional leaders learn you went around them, there will be blowback that will not only destroy the program, but will also lead to more restrictions on executive power.

Your third option is informal Congressional oversight. You could pull a few senior members of Congress into your office and you could say: "Look, given the fast-moving nature of this conflict, there is no way we can codify rules about what is permissible and impermissible. Instead we will create a social contract. I'll trust you by telling you everything we are doing to combat terror. You'll trust me enough to give me the flexibility I need to keep the country safe. If we have disagreements, we will work them out in private."

These are your three options, Mr. President, and these are essentially the three options George Bush faced a few years ago. (He chose Option 2.) But before you decide, let me tell you one more thing: Options 1 and 2 won't work, and Option 3 is impossible.

Options 1 and 2 won't work because they lead to legalistic rigidities and leaks that will destroy the program. Option 3 is impossible because it requires trust. It requires that the president and the Congressional leaders trust one another. It requires Democrats and Republicans to trust one another. We don't have that kind of trust in America today.

That leaves you with Option 4: Face the fact that we will not be using our best technology to monitor the communications of known terrorists. Face the fact that the odds of an attack on America just went up.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

What a jerk.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like how "trust" is some silly fantasy.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can look at him for 2 seconds on Lehrer before wanting to take his lunch money. So meh.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's touching, this conservative faith in the wisdom and good intentions of Big Government.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

OTM

― don weiner (don weiner), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

God, I wish you hadn't posted that.
How much does THAT stupid piece of shit get paid?
Fire HIM. Retroactively.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

First, it's predicated on a division between foreign and domestic activity that has been rendered obsolete by today's mobile communications methods.

these "cellular" "telephones" represent a paradigm shift that our founders never intended

― älänbänänä (alanbanana), Thursday, 22 December 2005 18:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love how the main drawback to all three stupid ideas is that they're stupid and illegal and bullshit, and thus will be destroyed whenever the public gets wind of them. Damned public! Fuck them!

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah alan don't you know electronics and digital transistorized integrated circuits have made our concepts of "citizenship" and "rights" totally obsolete?

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

"God, I wish you hadn't posted that."

Sorry everyone else asked for it. :(

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 December 2005 19:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

why not just put cameras in every room in every building in america? we have the technology! it would prevent attacks right?

― msp (mspa), Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

These briefings are as psychologically intense as an episode of "24," with descriptions of specific bad guys and their activities.

this reminds me of the one bloom county strip where steve dallas cries when he finds out "knight rider" is a children's show.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can I mention how fucking sick I am of "24" being used to justify Bush policy? I've never seen the show, but I fucking hate it.

― elmo, patron saint of nausea (allocryptic), Thursday, 22 December 2005 20:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

it's for kids.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

from Chris Mathews:

“One of the things I’ve found in life is that politicians are a lot more sincere than us journalists and we are more sincere than the people that read and watch us.µ

vid here

― kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

On "Meet the Press," challenged on an assertion that 10,000 Iraqis will die every month if the U.S. pulls out, The New York Times columnist admits he just picked the number "out of the air."

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003615101

― Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I saw the broadcast. He also implied that it's worth losing a few hundred Americans a month if it keeps 10,00,00o,00,000,000 Iraqis from dying. For once Bob Woodward acted like a journalist and went after him.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

As much as I hate to defend Brooks, I think this is an unfair "gotcha" slam - he was obviously using the number 10,000 rhetorically to begin with. He's just trying to argue that even more Iraqis will die if we pull out, which may or may not be true but is not exactly an assertion "out of the air."

― Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Given that so many generals, Bushies, neocons, and "experts" have offered their own out-of-the-air assertions since 2002, I'm prepared to slap the shit out of Brooks, especially after that slavish Bush column he wrote last week.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost

But Hurting, he's inserting an exact number to make a hypothetical scenario seem like a concrete actuality. Far from the worst of his crimes, but it highlights how slippery his support for his arguments typically is.

― Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

In other words, I'd let this go in many other cases, but Brooks deserves to be called out on this.

― Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ok, but advocates of withdrawal say stuff like "It can't get worse than it already is" all the time, which is just as hypothetical.

― Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Besides, how literal-minded do you have to be to think that David Brooks is claiming to know exactly how many Iraqis will die per month?

― Hurting 2, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well, he claims to know a lot of stuff that he doesn't!

But regardless, this sort of rhetoric gets those numbers out there as talking points. Soon enough, 10K and 125 become the accepted estimations that you have to argue against.

― Martin Van Burne, Monday, 23 July 2007 15:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

Should we just keep a running tally of his clueless Obama/"class warfare"/"lakefront liberal" columns that he dribbles out like so much Olean?

F'instance

Perhaps he'll finally reach the point of just doing a find/replace of "Kerry" with "Obama" on his shit from 4 years ago. It would certainly save him effort.

― kingfish, Tuesday, 1 July 2008 15:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

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today's brooks' op-ed begins with "Let’s say you’re generally a moderate voter." and peaks with "The priority in this election is to get a leader who can get Medicare costs under control. Then we can argue about everything else."

― Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 23:00 (9 months ago) Permalink

The purpose of the Republican convention is to introduce America to the real Mitt Romney. Fortunately, I have spent hours researching this subject. I can provide you with the definitive biography and a unique look into the Byronic soul of the Republican nominee:

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 11:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

I actually found this column moderately funny (ducks):

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/opinion/brooks-the-real-romney.html?_r=1&hp

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:22 (9 months ago) Permalink

It is (ducks also). But is Brooks mocking us as well as Romney?

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:34 (9 months ago) Permalink

I don't know what to make of that tbh

― The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah that's the problem with Brooks. It should have a name, Brooksism or something -- that gutless, hide-the-ball kind of writing that makes you feel a little like you're talking to a narc.

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

seriously today's column is weird. i thought it was a media put-down - "see this is how the liberal media portrays poor mitt" - until the last line.

― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

there are funny jokes in there - which is alarming enough - but yeah his motives for writing them is sort of inscrutable

― The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

"heh heh heh"

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

motives = are

stupid verbs

― The Radioheads are massive in the Man community (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 16:01 (9 months ago) Permalink

I think it's all in the spirit of good-natured ribbing. These are pretty gentle zings - stuff that I'm sure Romney could chuckle over at a comedy roast. I think it fits pretty well with Brooks's attitude that Romney is a good candidate dogged by bad PR.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 19:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

He's no Dave Barry, thank Heaven.

― ça GLIS aux pays de merveilles; châteaux de loirs (Michael White), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 19:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/opinion/brooks-thurston-howell-romney.html

― s.clover, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 16:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

what a tool...he didn't know this before the secret video? and he says at the end that he really thinks Willard is a good guy deep down? FU, Brooks

― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 19:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

He was doing ok until this:

"Sure, there are some government programs that cultivate patterns of dependency in some people. I’d put federal disability payments and unemployment insurance in this category."

The vast, vast majority of people on unemployment do not want to be. They want a job.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

It's interesting to see Brooks reach the point where he stops trying to bend over backwards to be the compassionate, moderate, open-minded conservative while still playing for team Republican and when he finally decides he has to cut Mitt loose.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:32 (9 months ago) Permalink

those damn disabled people, always wanting a handout

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

Disability insurance is a source of moral hazard, dissuading the lame from healing thyselves.

― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

― o. nate, Tuesday, September 18, 2012 4:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hes allowed one of these heterodox columns every so often but really compassionate, moderate, open-minded conservative while still playing for team Republican or the more succinct republican apologist is his job he knows this and will carry on starting next column

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

I can't tell him and E.J. Dionne apart anymore :(

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 20:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/opinion/brooks-the-conservative-mind.html?hp

Where do these fantasies come from?

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 12:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

x-post--In print E.J. is much more liberal while on NPR he and Brooks try to make nice.

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 13:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/david-brooks-on-drugs-and-medicare

Dean Baker vs Brooks with a link to Brooks' piece yesterday on how the Romney Medicare proposal is better than the Dems because the Romney plan relies on the free market

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/11/todays-war-on-nate-silver-quiet-flows-the-don-edition.html

delong quoting someone else:

Brooks’ journalistic way of knowing

― j., Thursday, 1 November 2012 17:44 (7 months ago) Permalink

Ha.

I thought you were going to be mentioning Brooks' absurd reasoning behind his endorsement of Romney.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/30/opinion/brooks-the-upside-of-opportunism.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

if Romney wins, we’re more likely to get bipartisan reform. Romney is more of a flexible flip-flopper than Obama. He has more influence over the most intransigent element in the Washington equation House Republicans. He’s more likely to get big stuff done.

― curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done get big stuff done

― Aimless, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:31 (7 months ago) Permalink

if anything needs getting done, it's big stuff

― Spectrum, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:32 (7 months ago) Permalink

America: who do you think u r?
Romney: mr. big stuff B-)

― i've grown accustomed to her face tat (m bison), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:42 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

'I certainly wasn't wrong about it provoking smart ass jibes.'

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 18:08 (5 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2013/02/your-use-of-data-for-any-purpose-but-validating-david-brookss-lazy-intuitions-infuriates-david-brooks

On Brooks' attempt to argue with Nate Silver over baseball stats

― The New Jack Mormons! (kingfish), Thursday, 21 February 2013 22:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Spectacular column.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 01:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

its incomprehensible.

― scott seward, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 01:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

why isn't this guy recognized as the Murray Kempton of his generation

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 01:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

i think the nyt is just keeping him around now because it's rumored his head is filled with nougat and they're just waiting for the right moment to crack him open.

― Spectrum, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 01:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

beautiful!

― s.clover, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

Was waiting for this to be posted. I don't remember if Taibbi made the point that marriage necessarily implies few of the constraints Brooks presumes it does.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

incomprehensible yes and prematurely senile like kempton you bet and yet recognizable in the fog is a married-too-long middle age guy wondering about the "freedom" he was undoubtedly (in brooks case) too uptight to exercise/enjoy when he was single

― screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

haha m@rk: I was being sarcastic (I love Kempton).

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 10:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

me too and i shouldnt have been disrespectful but those last few years in the ny post he was the oracular rambler

― screen scraper (m coleman), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

and yet recognizable in the fog is a married-too-long middle age guy wondering about the "freedom" he was undoubtedly (in brooks case) too uptight to exercise/enjoy when he was single

This. If I was Mrs Brooks I would be making a bed for David on the sofa after reading his column.

― media conglomerates are pedaling the same product (stevie), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 11:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'd be strapping one on.

― alternately mean and handsy (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 12:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

A decaying social fabric, especially among the less fortunate.

Taibbi rightly picked up on the stupidity and uselessness of this statement

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

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