2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Mods not being able to see images SUX...I had to log out to see that triptych then log back in. (It was worth it.)

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ayo hardy just hav 2 accounts

Mods can't see images? Bizarre admin choice.

Palin: Obama not telling ‘total truth’
By ANDY BARR | 10/9/08 2:28 PM EDT

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin attacked Barack Obama Thursday for not being honest about his association with 1960s radical William Ayers.

“Barack Obama hasn’t told the American people the total truth about that, about his association with Ayers,” Palin said on conservative radio host Laura Ingraham’s show. “Doggonit, he fails to tell the American people with candor and with truthfulness what his associations are and we have to know.”

Mods can't see images? Bizarre admin choice.

There's some security reason why it has to be that way, not so much a choice.

WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing...

pretty weak october surprise if that's what they're trying to push

― velko, Friday, 10 October 2008 00:59 (1 hour ago)

so can we confirm this is nothing worth worrying about then?

To paraphrase SNL tonight, "I had a close personal relationship with Bill Ayers. And I'm telling you this because there's absolutely nothing at this point that can keep me from winning."

But likely, if the Ayers thing doesn't pan out, NRO will start screaming about this tomorrow.

Doggonit

get doggonit
get doggonit

Welcome to a month ago.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

TPM jumped on this, and did a little digging of their own.

But (Amir) Taheri doesn't exactly have a reputation for care and precision in his work. In May 2006, he published an explosive story in the Post (since removed from the paper's site), as well as Canada's National Post, about an Iranian law that forced Jews to wear a yellow stripe, stoking fears of a second Nazi Germany. Only problem: it turned out to be a complete fabrication.

were the story true hoos drudge would have a better source than the wash times

so why would the times blow it up now? just cause they're the times? xp fair enough

Both liberals and conservatives often refer to the Times as politically conservative. Liberal critics have cited it along with, most notably, the Fox News Channel and talk radio, as epitomizing conservative media bias.[8][15][16][17] Salon.com[18][19] The Daily Howler[20][21][22][23] and Harper's Magazine[24] have published analyses of what they believe are serious factual errors and examples of bias in the paper's news coverage. Conservative-turned-liberal writer David Brock, who worked for the Times' sister publication Insight on the News, said in his book Blinded by the Right that the news writers at the Times were encouraged and rewarded for giving news stories a conservative slant. In Right-Wing Media and How It Corrupts Democracy Brock wrote "the Washington Times was governed by a calculatedly unfair political bias and that its journalistic ethics were close to nil."[25] According to the Columbia Journalism Review, "Because of its history of a seemingly ideological approach to the news, the paper has always faced questions about its credibility."[26]

right

big hoos you gotta relax some, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar: the mccain campaign really is as hapless as it looks

There is even a daily newspaper—the Washington Times—published strictly for the movement’s benefit, a propaganda sheet whose distortions are so obvious and so alien that it puts one in mind of those official party organs one encounters when traveling in authoritarian countries.

http://harpers.org/archive/2008/08/0082132

nate five thre eight suggests the ayers chant may be showing up in the polls:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/ayers-attacks-piquing-curiosity-but.html

...but the effect is somewhere between non-trivial and basically insignificant. plus to make it really stick they'd have to repeat it and repeat it to the point where they'd look more boring/insane than they already do. plus it seems the more people see obama the more they like him. mccain, not so much, so...

Obama's best strategy may simply be to appear before a national audience as frequently as possible, as voters have always almost reacted favorably to Obama when he has had such opportunities. Obama's favorables ticked upward in all three trackers in today's release, suggesting that his strong performance in Tuesday night's debate may cancel out or exceed any traction that McCain had been able to make on Ayers. This may also be the impetus behind Obama's decision today to make a 30-minute, prime time ad buy in the week before the election, as candidates have few opportunities to reach a mass audience once the final debate has come and gone. If it so desired, the Obama campaign could probably also drive a decent amount of attention to the Keating Five, as the traffic metrics on the story essentially matched that of Ayers for the 48 hours or so that Chicago was pushing it.

aside from my basic level of political worry, i am officially Not Worried about bill ayers.

I'm more worried about:
a) Mass election fraud
b) Obama being much more centrist than leftist
or
c) A militant rightwing response to victory

Than I am about Obama losing this election fairly.

LOLOLOLOL at Palin grade transcript and SAT scores. Most of the people at her rallies probably did better than that.

Palin clears Palin in Troopergate probe

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=5990499

here's the washington times story. it's the same as the ny post story, and no kind of scandal. basically obama suggested that iraq might want to not strike some long-term deal with a lame-duck administration, they said, yeah we get it, the next administration will have a free hand to reopen the deal. horrors.

Yeah, this isn't an issue. He is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. As far I understand it, it was well within his jurisdiction as a Senator to have the discussion he had.

Of course, that doesn't mean NRO won't try to make it an issue.

This video Jonah posted (showing the formation of a fetus in its first 24 hours) will certainly keep people from getting abortions! Look - you can see it's fingernails. All twelve thousand of them moving around!!

Oh and this 30 minute Obama airtime buy on Oct 29? Anniversary of Great Crash, anyone?

That One clearly got an A in American History.

Ha, good spot! (meant in two ways)

Pretty much every major Obama move is coordinated with a relevant This Day In History, seeing as those who forget doomed to repeat etc. Something the rest of us who pulled straight A's in history (if maybe not in love) have been inordinately chuckling about for the whole campaign. Inauguration Day this year coincides with a certain national public holiday in a very Oh Snap way.

I would like to do a McCain pumpkin for Halloween, since my first best idea of Julian Opie doing a McCain portrait a la Fairey with WTF?LOL! does not seem to have been taken up.

Inauguration Day this year coincides with a certain national public holiday in a very Oh Snap way.

You mean MLK day? Or you mean FDR's second inauguration? :P Cause the second seems more auspicious to me.

MLK is Oh Snap specifically because McCain and other racists voted against. I'll get back to you with ways McCain could be Landon Regurgitated but I could be some time.

Apropos of guilt-by-a-few-steps-of-separation etc, was this posted here yet?

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

The planned 1993 speech to the United Nations of Joe Vogler of the Alaska Independence Party was sponsored by Iran...

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topcosales.us:

This Is not Sarah Palin Inflatable Love Doll

• Sarah Palin makes sexism sexy
• Cross party lines with your own inflatable running mate
• Three ways to do this doll: mouth, pussy or ass
• Give her a mouthful
• Blow her up and show her how you’re going to vote
• Let her pound your gavel over and over
• Bypass the Bush and have some MILF
• It’s time some male interns caused a scandal in the Capitol
• She’s the hottest thing to come out of Alaska in years

Ugh...

I thought only elderly gold prospectors in old movies said doggonit.

What time are they going to release the real Troopergate findings? Anticipation of this event (and scoffing at the exoneration the McCain/Palin camp has given her in its own fake report) was all over the British news.

No worries: Palin exonerates herself.

guys, obama is nefariously colluding with African leaders or some shit, and there is EMAIL PROOF

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/misc/ObamaLipperone.jpg

that's right -- RAILAODI✧✧✧@YA✧✧✧.C✧✧

raila odinga at yahoo dot com

DO YOU SEE

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do you see how Obama tells Odinga how to set up secret channels of correspondence through Mark Lippert, and how... how Obama replies... Obama replies and thanks Odinga and gives him Lippert's email address... so... wait.

Wait a minute.

This doesn't any fucking sense.

http://www.moosesagainstpalin.com/

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This video Jonah posted (showing the formation of a fetus in its first 24 hours) will certainly keep people from getting abortions! Look - you can see it's fingernails. All twelve thousand of them moving around!!

hahah really? -- if you click through, that video is of a FISH EMBRYO!

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2008/10/former_governor_milliken_backs.html

lololol

Letter to the NYT from the guy who actually led prosecution the Weathermen:

Re “Politics of Attack” (editorial, Oct. 8) and “Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths” (front page, Oct. 4):

As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof

Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

oh deep throat

paws

During a stop in Grand Rapids on Thursday, Lincoln Chafee, a former Republican U.S. senator from Rhode Island, said he's voting for Obama and urging others to do likewise.