2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

but his campaign organization I think is largely responsible for how Obama's campaign has been put together.

Mostly otm.

Dennis Miller goes where the money is, and if Obama gets elected he'll have a job for at least the next four years.

they were playing a dennis miller stand up from 04 or 05 last night on comdey central and he was off railing in support of off shore drilling and i wanted to break my tv cuz he is such an unfunny douche who is alwasy wrong

yeah but even if you can understand dennis miller's endless cheeky references why would you want to actually listen to him?

"but his campaign organization I think is largely responsible for how Obama's campaign has been put together."

His campaign organization /= him. Like at all.

The Off White Album from 20 years ago was actually funny.

Howard Dean as the head of the DNC is a wet noodle.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:13 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

offtm, like ppl are saying upthread - the 50 state strategy was his response to the dlc and i definitely lean that way over the dlc's 'democrat by name only' approach

His campaign organization /= him. Like at all.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:25 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

??? he put it together. obama's campaign has been talking about how his grassroots approach in '04 was the blueprint for what they've been doing the past 3 years

http://philfiles.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-peddling-at-soup-lines.html

I liked Dennis Miller in the mid-80s.

yeah i remember when he was a longhair provocateur

and not a goateed xenophobe or whatever the f he is now

FTR Obama's campaign /= Obama either.

??? he put it together. obama's campaign has been talking about how his grassroots approach in '04 was the blueprint for what they've been doing the past 3 years

yes and no -- yes to the fundraising part of the campaign. no to everything else. i'm sure that Obama's community organizing experience has had everything to do with how his campaign has been run.

Dennis Miller managed to divest himself of all of his funny and turn himself into an unrelatable douchebag; he is basically the inverse of Norm MacDonald.

offtm, like ppl are saying upthread - the 50 state strategy was his response to the dlc and i definitely lean that way over the dlc's 'democrat by name only' approach

to be fair, these aren't exactly opposites: 50-state means you get dems elected wherever and whenever you can, even if they deviate pretty far from the national brand (schweitzer etc). dlc was about changing that national brand altogether to something a little more hawkish and a lot more business friendly. (maybe i'm not summarizing this right... besides 'dlc' and '50-state' involve a lot of the same people anyway)

obamas internet operation is def inspired by the unsuccessful in turning out voters dean campaign - the rest not so much

supporting kerry in 04= a desperate bad hook up at the age of 14

supporting obama in 08= doing it 4 real

― kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:10 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

were you old enough to vote in 04???

I think I specifically hate DM because he's an apostate in my book.

I think we can all agree Howard Dean as chair of the DNC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry McAuliffe.

obamas internet operation is def inspired by the unsuccessful in turning out voters dean campaign - the rest not so much

― joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

again, 50 state strategy

him and lieberman imo xxpost

Dean's doing okay and if we rarely hear him, that might be all to the good.

when he went YAAAAAAOOOOWWWW it made me want to vote 4 him even more

he's better when he's off script.

the 50 state strategy wasnt part of the dean campaign - thats his dnc trip

orgasmic breathers for obama: http://osforobama.com/in/

The Dean campaign continues to give me tons and tons of lols, seeing as it happened right after the bursting of the dotcom bubble yet people still managed to believe somehow that artificially-inflated Internet numbers were directly comparable to concrete real-world numbers without any type of weighting or transformation.

A very good friend of mine had an article published in the Washington Post that talked about this at the time and I remember a vocal segment of ILX being up in arms over it. Let me see if I can find that...

supporting kerry in 04= a desperate bad hook up at the age of 14

supporting obama in 08= doing it 4 real

― kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:10 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

were you old enough to vote in 04???

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, October 9, 2008 5:32 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

were you old enough to hook up in 04????????????

for the record I don't think Dean had a problem with turnout (I didn't even get the chance to vote for him!) as much as he was the victim of shenanigans on the part of the DLC, who hated him. Essentially the party management co-opted him by giving him the chairmanship, but denying him the presidency (I am still convinced Gephardt essentially made a sacrifice play against Dean in Iowa). The "scream" thing was such bullshit.

x-post

grady:

no i was 17 but i did volunteering for him

thats what i thought

elmo what the hell

i cant even remember if i voted for dean in the primaries or not now

dean had a problem w/no one voting for him

^^

i have never voted in a primary -- sorry howard dean

hey listen i have no idea what orgasmic breathing is but they are doing it for their man obama

Howard Dean

lol it was Blount who was hardcore for Dean and mad about my friend's article, lol

What's your Obama?
Man, Mystery, Miracle
Obama the Earth Guardian
Obama-daka, the Pan Reborn
Galactic Ambassador Obama
Leader from the Heart
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i mean it sounds like it could be fun but it is probably a lot less fun than it sounds xp

??? no, dean had lots of legit support prior to the meltdown

shakey mo otm

and i wasnt the one talking about 'dean campaign,' i was talking about dean's strategies in general, and saying that he was responsible for being the popular face pushing the 50 state strategy, which obama also bought into, just as he bought into using the internet for fundraising

i voted for some lady who was pro UFO research in 2000 primaries; i liked bradley but swore i'd never vote for someone who suported the death penalty

also-- i voted in the first legally binding online election that year (AZ Dem primaries)

Orgasmic breathing sounds like it could lead to passing out and splitting your head open. Bravo to these brave risktakers, putting their lives on the line to follow their convictions.

Wasn't Dean the first pol to publicly admit without shame that he used the Internet?

you live in hawaii, it is illegal for you to vote in az, you jerk!

that site is very embarrassing to me on a personal level... but i'm tempted to forward it to the corner for the lols.

i was going to school in chicago then and was registered in AZ

that site is very embarrassing to me on a personal level... but i'm tempted to forward it to the corner for the lols.

― goole, Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:42 AM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do this please

dean also led in being the first major candidate w/ a serious chance who based being anti-iraq war as his platform