2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

howard dean was and is awesome

also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john kerry

well now that john kerry isn't asking anyone to vote for him he is 100% less boring of a speaker so apparently the dislike was mutual during the election because he's totally more dynamic now. i mean for john kerry.

Howard Dean as the head of the DNC is a wet noodle.

In Kerry's favor, though, he had one of the best speeches in Denver.

howard dean is the only person in the world for whom saying YAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOW did not win him fans.

Meantime:

The Alaska Supreme Court today rejected an attempt by a group of six Republican legislators to shut down the Legislature's investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin.

The ruling means that Steve Branchflower, the investigator hired by the Legislative Council, will release his report as scheduled on Friday. Branchflower is looking into Palin's dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister.

like remember how conflicted you were about gore 8 years ago and now look at him

like, yeah, i want an actual example of what we're specifically talking about here, which is supposed complacency in voters whose candidate is ahead, not about how one newspaper fucked up calling a tight race on election night. but whatever let's just keep being hilarious!

The Dewey chop had nothing to do with complacency in voters as much as it had to do with links getting posted over and over again with headlines that read IT'S OVER!

And yeah. There's some baseball superstition involved with avoiding the lot of y'all running around jumping around in your front yards, getting ready for that Obama rapture.

really? i thought consensus was that the 50 state strategy was key to capitalizing on fatigue with the GOP in 06?

xps

i think maybe i feel way worse about john kerry than lots of ppl because of my age but i feel foolish as fuck for being like THIS DUDE IS MY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE esp. when compared to obama

i'd kick it all day everyday with al gore esp. beard-era gore

wait hold on, Dennis Miller has a radio show?? since when? and who cares?

i was not conflicted about gore in 2000. i am now because he is sooooooooooooooooooooo fat lol hilarious!

xpost oh yeah that is totally what people on this thread who are posting polls going "wow this is nuts" are doing! way to blow things totally out of proportion!

The first time I was of age to vote was in 1992 and I feel foolish comparing ALL THOSE DUDES to Obama.

Halcro breaks down Todd Palin's deposition

nah u were conflicted about gore in 2000 i remember u called me and were all "jeez max im so conflicted about gore"

Gore in 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gore in 2000

mccain co-chair, on this heretofore unknown "dennis miller show" says:

Just he ought to admit, "you know, I've got to be honest with you. I was a guy of the street. I was way to the left. I used cocaine. I voted liberally, but I'm back at the center." I mean, I understand the big picture of America. But he hasn't done that...

OBAMA: A GUY OF THE STREET AND A COCAINE USER.

i mean what the fucking fuck

max that is a truth bomb, i remember our long conversation that day but ultimately your wisdom in being not conflicted helped me make it to the polls

i've seen a few articles saying "lol dems be complacent" but i've never run into or heard of or read about any dems be complacent. lol.

xp HAHAHAHA "of the street"

pulling out all the stops to make sure you know that obama is a crack-smoking homeless terrorist

howard dean was a really terrible public speaker and that's what did him in. but his campaign organization I think is largely responsible for how Obama's campaign has been put together.

guys i hate to break it to you but nfl super star and cleveland browns qb brady quinn went mccain today; that negates vampire weekend and we will probably lose this election now

xpost obama is straight up the fanciest homeless man i ever seen; if he can do that without even having a house and being addicted to crack imagine how awesome he will be when he's in this shelter, "the white house".

http://cdbaby.name/d/o/dooney.jpg

i mean that 'of the street' comment definitely pisses me off but i am WAY MORE infuriated to learn that dennis miller is still working

but his campaign organization I think is largely responsible for how Obama's campaign has been put together.

Mostly otm.

Dennis Miller goes where the money is, and if Obama gets elected he'll have a job for at least the next four years.

they were playing a dennis miller stand up from 04 or 05 last night on comdey central and he was off railing in support of off shore drilling and i wanted to break my tv cuz he is such an unfunny douche who is alwasy wrong

yeah but even if you can understand dennis miller's endless cheeky references why would you want to actually listen to him?

"but his campaign organization I think is largely responsible for how Obama's campaign has been put together."

His campaign organization /= him. Like at all.

The Off White Album from 20 years ago was actually funny.

Howard Dean as the head of the DNC is a wet noodle.

― Johnny Fever, Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:13 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

offtm, like ppl are saying upthread - the 50 state strategy was his response to the dlc and i definitely lean that way over the dlc's 'democrat by name only' approach

His campaign organization /= him. Like at all.

― Alex in SF, Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:25 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

??? he put it together. obama's campaign has been talking about how his grassroots approach in '04 was the blueprint for what they've been doing the past 3 years

http://philfiles.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-peddling-at-soup-lines.html

I liked Dennis Miller in the mid-80s.

yeah i remember when he was a longhair provocateur

and not a goateed xenophobe or whatever the f he is now

FTR Obama's campaign /= Obama either.

??? he put it together. obama's campaign has been talking about how his grassroots approach in '04 was the blueprint for what they've been doing the past 3 years

yes and no -- yes to the fundraising part of the campaign. no to everything else. i'm sure that Obama's community organizing experience has had everything to do with how his campaign has been run.

Dennis Miller managed to divest himself of all of his funny and turn himself into an unrelatable douchebag; he is basically the inverse of Norm MacDonald.

offtm, like ppl are saying upthread - the 50 state strategy was his response to the dlc and i definitely lean that way over the dlc's 'democrat by name only' approach

to be fair, these aren't exactly opposites: 50-state means you get dems elected wherever and whenever you can, even if they deviate pretty far from the national brand (schweitzer etc). dlc was about changing that national brand altogether to something a little more hawkish and a lot more business friendly. (maybe i'm not summarizing this right... besides 'dlc' and '50-state' involve a lot of the same people anyway)

obamas internet operation is def inspired by the unsuccessful in turning out voters dean campaign - the rest not so much

supporting kerry in 04= a desperate bad hook up at the age of 14

supporting obama in 08= doing it 4 real

― kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, October 9, 2008 11:10 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

were you old enough to vote in 04???

I think I specifically hate DM because he's an apostate in my book.

I think we can all agree Howard Dean as chair of the DNC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terry McAuliffe.

obamas internet operation is def inspired by the unsuccessful in turning out voters dean campaign - the rest not so much

― joseph sixpack (ice crӕm), Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:31 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

again, 50 state strategy

him and lieberman imo xxpost