2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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what happened at the begining of september 04 that i'm forgetting?? hadnt switboat ads run thier course by then??

xxxxxp

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

xp CONVENTION!

Alex in SF, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

liberals believed kerry was going to win it for reasons i have trouble remembering.

the debates?

David R., Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard: that one episode of the simpsons where martin wins
Sent at 4:53 PM on Thursday
me: LOL

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

oh okay -- it's referring to the campaign reporters swinging on the tire-swing at the big mccain BBQ back in the primary season. i got it. thanks.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Trouble believing people wanted four more years of Bush?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah Palin can just say "sorry, I don't speak directly to those loony pals of terrorists. *squeee* :-D "

I kind of hope she says exactly this.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

― max, Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:57 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My Pledge To You: I will remain nervous until Obama is being sworn in.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Little known fact:

The township of Wasila, AK rest in the foothills of Mt. Cuddlestien, part of the Alaska Range.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

there was also rumors that bcuz they werent counting cell phones millions of cell phoned college students were going to swing the election

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the 48 race was not viewed as being close, there was widespread confidence in a republican win within the dewey campaign and the media and pollsters, if not the public, that's what i was getting at, not the newspaper headline.

velko, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Let's not forget that as of now he garnered the second highest vote tally in American history.

yes, i know that, but it's a bit like saying my dad makes more money now than he did in 1980.

kerry should've won, and didn't, because certain segments of the independent/swing vote population found him "boring" and unreliable and wishy washy and blah blah blah. he was disliked. including by people who voted for him. he wasn't charismatic and he let attacks seep in because of his temperment and his lack of charisma. pretending this isn't true so we can keep pissing and moaning and hand-wringing about every other election til the end of time does no one any good.

this is the only reason i brought up kerry at all -- he's a common bugaboo when you tell people to stop being so negative and stop claiming that being ahead necessarily breeds complacency. it's not what happened with kerry. i personally liked him!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

hahahahahahahaha i went to a bar u_u

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought he won the debates too -- i mean, he did win them, hence the narrowing.

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

many xps

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh, so tired of mccain demanding answers re: ayers that have already been given ad nauseam

this is like the "cooties" theory of terrorism! and sarah palin is the only one who can give out cootie shots!!!

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

in fairness john mccain is very old and can't remember the answers

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

kerry fucking sucked

Mr. Que, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

it also didn't help john kerry that he was a terrorist

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

yes this was also unfortunately a major factor for some people? including people i knew which was alarming to me.

xpost jordan makes an excellent point about kerry's record of blowing up shit.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"cant change horses in midstream" was a made up ad in wag the dog wasnt it

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought "tire-swinging" was a "dumb monkeys hitting tire swings in their cages" sort of metaphor

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the downturn for Kerry was because of all those gays getting married in SAN FRANSICKO

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

do you guys remember how also john kerry aborted personally 3 babies with downs syndrome?

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

;_;

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Seriously though, I don't think this was the main reason at all, but the SF-marrying-gays thing did rally the Republican base quite a bit in late 2004. :(

obamaloverholeinyohead (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i've been thinking lately at how shitty john kerry makes me feel

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

ultimately what that election came down to is that john kerry is my old bicycle.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

about how**

i feel like

supporting kerry in 04= a desperate bad hook up at the age of 14

supporting obama in 08= doing it 4 real

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Kerry made me feel shitty in 2004, but I've been thinking about what a complete joke Howard Dean was. OMG what was I thinking?

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

CULTURE OF LIFE

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

STEM CELLS

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i dunno now that im not required to vote for him or anything i sort of like john kerry

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

DICK CHENEY'S GAY DAUGHTER

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Si jeunesse savait. Si vieillesse pouvait

Michael White, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

howard dean was and is awesome

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john kerry

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

well now that john kerry isn't asking anyone to vote for him he is 100% less boring of a speaker so apparently the dislike was mutual during the election because he's totally more dynamic now. i mean for john kerry.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Howard Dean as the head of the DNC is a wet noodle.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

In Kerry's favor, though, he had one of the best speeches in Denver.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

howard dean is the only person in the world for whom saying YAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOW did not win him fans.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Meantime:

The Alaska Supreme Court today rejected an attempt by a group of six Republican legislators to shut down the Legislature's investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin.

The ruling means that Steve Branchflower, the investigator hired by the Legislative Council, will release his report as scheduled on Friday. Branchflower is looking into Palin's dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

like remember how conflicted you were about gore 8 years ago and now look at him

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

like, yeah, i want an actual example of what we're specifically talking about here, which is supposed complacency in voters whose candidate is ahead, not about how one newspaper fucked up calling a tight race on election night. but whatever let's just keep being hilarious!

The Dewey chop had nothing to do with complacency in voters as much as it had to do with links getting posted over and over again with headlines that read IT'S OVER!

And yeah. There's some baseball superstition involved with avoiding the lot of y'all running around jumping around in your front yards, getting ready for that Obama rapture.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

really? i thought consensus was that the 50 state strategy was key to capitalizing on fatigue with the GOP in 06?

xps

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i think maybe i feel way worse about john kerry than lots of ppl because of my age but i feel foolish as fuck for being like THIS DUDE IS MY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE esp. when compared to obama

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd kick it all day everyday with al gore esp. beard-era gore

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

wait hold on, Dennis Miller has a radio show?? since when? and who cares?

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link


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