2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

there's hot dogs and beer for everyone, but the man with the paper hat is stumbling home through deserted evening streets, dragging behind him his popping-corn machine, whistling the songs his father whistled once, so long ago now...

forget it, i'm a CUBS fan ffs so i'm not saying shit

talking points memo coined it I think - xpost

that one episode of the simpsons where martin wins

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/3waybig.jpg

hey lookit that: bush was way up over kerry in september, it narrowed a little bit in october, and then bush won. astonishing! lots of liberals believed kerry was going to win it for reasons i have trouble remembering.

"tire-swing" is slang for reporters shamelessly riding mccain's dick. don't know the origin.

I think this is the first tire swing post

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209662.php

origin = tpm

kerry was just not liked by ppl.

Let's not forget that as of now he garnered the second highest vote tally in American history.

at least, if you google the phrase the only relevant results are from tpm

hey can someone here school me the meaning and origin of this phrase "tire-swinging" which I see everywhere despite lacking even a single clue as to what the fuck it means???

I don't know if it originated w/ Talking Points Memo, but that's where I first saw it. It describes folks in the media that are standing by the McCain myth of his being an upstanding maverick type of guy despite ample evidence to the contrary.

XPOST motherfuck

what happened at the begining of september 04 that i'm forgetting?? hadnt switboat ads run thier course by then??

xxxxxp

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

xp CONVENTION!

liberals believed kerry was going to win it for reasons i have trouble remembering.

the debates?

Richard: that one episode of the simpsons where martin wins
Sent at 4:53 PM on Thursday
me: LOL

oh okay -- it's referring to the campaign reporters swinging on the tire-swing at the big mccain BBQ back in the primary season. i got it. thanks.

Trouble believing people wanted four more years of Bush?

Sarah Palin can just say "sorry, I don't speak directly to those loony pals of terrorists. *squeee* :-D "

I kind of hope she says exactly this.

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

― max, Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:57 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My Pledge To You: I will remain nervous until Obama is being sworn in.

Little known fact:

The township of Wasila, AK rest in the foothills of Mt. Cuddlestien, part of the Alaska Range.

there was also rumors that bcuz they werent counting cell phones millions of cell phoned college students were going to swing the election

the 48 race was not viewed as being close, there was widespread confidence in a republican win within the dewey campaign and the media and pollsters, if not the public, that's what i was getting at, not the newspaper headline.

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

Let's not forget that as of now he garnered the second highest vote tally in American history.

yes, i know that, but it's a bit like saying my dad makes more money now than he did in 1980.

kerry should've won, and didn't, because certain segments of the independent/swing vote population found him "boring" and unreliable and wishy washy and blah blah blah. he was disliked. including by people who voted for him. he wasn't charismatic and he let attacks seep in because of his temperment and his lack of charisma. pretending this isn't true so we can keep pissing and moaning and hand-wringing about every other election til the end of time does no one any good.

this is the only reason i brought up kerry at all -- he's a common bugaboo when you tell people to stop being so negative and stop claiming that being ahead necessarily breeds complacency. it's not what happened with kerry. i personally liked him!

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

hahahahahahahaha i went to a bar u_u

i thought he won the debates too -- i mean, he did win them, hence the narrowing.

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

many xps

ugh, so tired of mccain demanding answers re: ayers that have already been given ad nauseam

this is like the "cooties" theory of terrorism! and sarah palin is the only one who can give out cootie shots!!!

in fairness john mccain is very old and can't remember the answers

kerry fucking sucked

it also didn't help john kerry that he was a terrorist

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

yes this was also unfortunately a major factor for some people? including people i knew which was alarming to me.

xpost jordan makes an excellent point about kerry's record of blowing up shit.

"cant change horses in midstream" was a made up ad in wag the dog wasnt it

i thought "tire-swinging" was a "dumb monkeys hitting tire swings in their cages" sort of metaphor

I thought the downturn for Kerry was because of all those gays getting married in SAN FRANSICKO

do you guys remember how also john kerry aborted personally 3 babies with downs syndrome?

;_;

Seriously though, I don't think this was the main reason at all, but the SF-marrying-gays thing did rally the Republican base quite a bit in late 2004. :(

i've been thinking lately at how shitty john kerry makes me feel

ultimately what that election came down to is that john kerry is my old bicycle.

about how**

i feel like

supporting kerry in 04= a desperate bad hook up at the age of 14

supporting obama in 08= doing it 4 real

Kerry made me feel shitty in 2004, but I've been thinking about what a complete joke Howard Dean was. OMG what was I thinking?

CULTURE OF LIFE

STEM CELLS

i dunno now that im not required to vote for him or anything i sort of like john kerry

DICK CHENEY'S GAY DAUGHTER

Si jeunesse savait. Si vieillesse pouvait

howard dean was and is awesome

also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john kerry

well now that john kerry isn't asking anyone to vote for him he is 100% less boring of a speaker so apparently the dislike was mutual during the election because he's totally more dynamic now. i mean for john kerry.