2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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also fuck this sentiment that we have to shit our pants with worry until the final vote is tallied, why can't we just rejoice in our lead in the polls and use that enthusiasm to further our determination to crush the opponent and run up the score???

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

(and other half baked sports analogies)

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Just sayin' you shouldn't high-five anyone in the dugout when your pitcher is throwing a perfect game.

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:39 (fifteen years ago) link

e.g. buying 30 minutes of time on CBS!

caek, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

my guess is mccain doesn't "say it to his face" in debate 3, ends up looking even weaker and more directionless. he seems to like stunts that look risky but don't carry much risk for him.

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i havent changed my underwear since obama regained the lead in the gallup daily poll

i'd say im doing my part!!

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, the guys in the press box are calling the game but the team isn't exactly gonna send in the second string at this point, right?

fans might be leaving the stands early, but I'm willing to bet it's mostly the other team's fans who are bailing early

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

you know, to "beat the traffic"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, seriously, can one negative nancy point me to a case in history where being like "oh our candidate is ahead!" cost the candidate the election? what the hell? and don't pretend it happened to john kerry, because it didn't.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Kerry was never ahead

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

please credit people with a little more intelligence guys

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you mean besides dewey?

velko, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Kerry was also mad boring and was in windsurfing pictures

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

way to misunderstand (or not bother to read?) the fucking question, velko. you think that ppl stayed home on election night because members of the media called the election for dewey after the counting had began? use your brain.

kerry was just not liked by ppl. i didn't have beef with him he seemed like a nice enough bro.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

my dad's been saying "WHEN obama's president" for a month now and i always say it more like "an obama administration would.." - it's the red sox in me (ew)

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

hey can someone here school me the meaning and origin of this phrase "tire-swinging" which I see everywhere despite lacking even a single clue as to what the fuck it means???

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

like, yeah, i want an actual example of what we're specifically talking about here, which is supposed complacency in voters whose candidate is ahead, not about how one newspaper fucked up calling a tight race on election night. but whatever let's just keep being hilarious!

xpost that is so you tracer

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

there's hot dogs and beer for everyone, but the man with the paper hat is stumbling home through deserted evening streets, dragging behind him his popping-corn machine, whistling the songs his father whistled once, so long ago now...

rent, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

forget it, i'm a CUBS fan ffs so i'm not saying shit

omar little, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

talking points memo coined it I think - xpost

dmr, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

that one episode of the simpsons where martin wins

Every Day Jimmy Mod Is Hustlin' (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/3waybig.jpg

hey lookit that: bush was way up over kerry in september, it narrowed a little bit in october, and then bush won. astonishing! lots of liberals believed kerry was going to win it for reasons i have trouble remembering.

"tire-swing" is slang for reporters shamelessly riding mccain's dick. don't know the origin.

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I think this is the first tire swing post

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/209662.php

dmr, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

origin = tpm

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

kerry was just not liked by ppl.

Let's not forget that as of now he garnered the second highest vote tally in American history.

Michael White, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

at least, if you google the phrase the only relevant results are from tpm

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hey can someone here school me the meaning and origin of this phrase "tire-swinging" which I see everywhere despite lacking even a single clue as to what the fuck it means???

I don't know if it originated w/ Talking Points Memo, but that's where I first saw it. It describes folks in the media that are standing by the McCain myth of his being an upstanding maverick type of guy despite ample evidence to the contrary.

XPOST motherfuck

David R., Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

what happened at the begining of september 04 that i'm forgetting?? hadnt switboat ads run thier course by then??

xxxxxp

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

xp CONVENTION!

Alex in SF, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

liberals believed kerry was going to win it for reasons i have trouble remembering.

the debates?

David R., Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard: that one episode of the simpsons where martin wins
Sent at 4:53 PM on Thursday
me: LOL

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

oh okay -- it's referring to the campaign reporters swinging on the tire-swing at the big mccain BBQ back in the primary season. i got it. thanks.

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Trouble believing people wanted four more years of Bush?

Alex in SF, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Sarah Palin can just say "sorry, I don't speak directly to those loony pals of terrorists. *squeee* :-D "

I kind of hope she says exactly this.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I PREDICT that the race will get closer over the next three weeks and certain EEYORES on this WEBSITE will COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK to display their UNMANLY ANXIETY only to be proven wrong after an OBAMA ELECTION BLOWOUT

― max, Thursday, October 9, 2008 8:57 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

My Pledge To You: I will remain nervous until Obama is being sworn in.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Little known fact:

The township of Wasila, AK rest in the foothills of Mt. Cuddlestien, part of the Alaska Range.

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

there was also rumors that bcuz they werent counting cell phones millions of cell phoned college students were going to swing the election

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the 48 race was not viewed as being close, there was widespread confidence in a republican win within the dewey campaign and the media and pollsters, if not the public, that's what i was getting at, not the newspaper headline.

velko, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Let's not forget that as of now he garnered the second highest vote tally in American history.

yes, i know that, but it's a bit like saying my dad makes more money now than he did in 1980.

kerry should've won, and didn't, because certain segments of the independent/swing vote population found him "boring" and unreliable and wishy washy and blah blah blah. he was disliked. including by people who voted for him. he wasn't charismatic and he let attacks seep in because of his temperment and his lack of charisma. pretending this isn't true so we can keep pissing and moaning and hand-wringing about every other election til the end of time does no one any good.

this is the only reason i brought up kerry at all -- he's a common bugaboo when you tell people to stop being so negative and stop claiming that being ahead necessarily breeds complacency. it's not what happened with kerry. i personally liked him!

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

zogby was on the daily show on election eve calling it for kerry and we all stayed home

hahahahahahahaha i went to a bar u_u

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought he won the debates too -- i mean, he did win them, hence the narrowing.

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

many xps

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ugh, so tired of mccain demanding answers re: ayers that have already been given ad nauseam

this is like the "cooties" theory of terrorism! and sarah palin is the only one who can give out cootie shots!!!

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

in fairness john mccain is very old and can't remember the answers

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

kerry fucking sucked

Mr. Que, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

it also didn't help john kerry that he was a terrorist

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the foreign-policy scaremongering against kerry can't be reduced to only the swift-boating. remember "can't change horses in midstream"?

yes this was also unfortunately a major factor for some people? including people i knew which was alarming to me.

xpost jordan makes an excellent point about kerry's record of blowing up shit.

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

"cant change horses in midstream" was a made up ad in wag the dog wasnt it

max, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought "tire-swinging" was a "dumb monkeys hitting tire swings in their cages" sort of metaphor

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link


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