Batman Begins: The Thread

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I actually think Bale's art in this role comes through more as the movie sits with you. Freeman is just gut-funny, not that this demands much of him.

Keep in mind, Freeman went from being recognized mainly as Easy Reader on The Electric Company to playing a bunch of convicts, cops, and criminals, and getting his big break as the scariest pimp in screen history in 1987's Street Smart. Maybe he's played variations of a troubled, moral force ever since, but I never get sick of watching him in Johnny Handsome, Clean and Sober, Driving Miss Daisy (a bum rap in the making for a dude who once played Malcolm X), and Se7en. It's not necessarily his fault that Hollywood otherwise doesn't have enough imagination to cast him in anything but the roles of a loyal black friend or respected elder (Joe Clark, the president, God, etc.). Nurse Betty came close. Somebody should get him to play Professor Longhair.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

just out of curiosity, what is Freeman's role in this movie?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

He's an invented character, so far as I know.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 10:16 (eighteen years ago) link

SMC: See Constantine.

Dude, Constantine was good! Better than Hellboy or any other supernaturally themed flick I've seen lately. I went to see Constantine expecting nothing of it, but to my surprise it never rang a false note. Also, it did something none of the recent superhero adaptations have done: it didn't rely on special effects. Who needs a CGI Satan when you can have Peter Stormare in make-up?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

what is Freeman's role in this movie?

He's Lucius Fox, who, in the comics, is a fairly younger brilliant financier who covers Bruce's fop-acting ass in the boardroom many a time, whereas in the flick, he's a brilliant inventor of Bat-shit, which strikes me as more interesting for a film than for his character. I think he was even white in the old animated series, which may have been a nod to Billy Dee Williams in the first 2 films (Harvey Dent being the half-white half mutilated Two Face for decades).

Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, it did something none of the recent superhero adaptations have done: it didn't rely on special effects

So all of those shots of Hell in the promos were filmed on location???

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link

There was only one scene in Hell, and that was rather short. All in all Constantine relied much more on suspense than on big monsters.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Constantine was pretty good. It largely managed to do what few comic adaptations have done lately, exist as its own thing. Which it sorta had too, since it really had little to do with Hellblazer.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicholas Cage is *NOT* right for Johnny Blaze.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed, though I would like to be there when they set his skull on fire.

Huk-L, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Give back what his mother gave him
Mother made him
And now she can’t even save him
Johnny Blaze ’em

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Flame on!
I rain fire when Johnny Storm
I'm shocking like live wire
You have been warned

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think he was even white in the old animated series, which may have been a nod to Billy Dee Williams in the first 2 films (Harvey Dent being the half-white half mutilated Two Face for decades).

Even though I recognize all the names, this sentence makes no sense to me.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Diehard fans call me John-John Mclean now...

rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i liked it!

very entertaining. bale actually pretty good as non-stiff batdude, i thought. a few problems though:

1) action scenes suffer from cutting too close & too fast, the bane of modern action cinema. not convinced nolan is an action director.

2) bad one-liners

3) somewhat anti-climactic (also common bain of modern action)

4) gary oldman looked perfect but his arc overlapped with katie holmes's too much ("one good man in a corrupt legal system"). glad they went the batman: year one way with him, at least a bit.

still... i liked it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Booth from James?

If he was in it, it must have been only for a minute because I don't remember seeing him. My whole review would have been about "Eww, Tim Booth, eww!"

I thought the same thing about the action scenes, s1ocki.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

always so disappointing! HIRE ONE SECOND UNIT DIRECTOR AND/OR DECENT ACTION EDITOR!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I still recommend it, though. It's 80,000 times more entertaining than Episode III.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link

1) i agree, but the mountain-top test was awesome

2) totally. especially the "i gotta get me one of those" lines.

the other two i'm ambivalent about.

i loved how they created bruce wayne the celeb.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

oh god yeah. wipes the floor with star snores! (xp)

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

1) yeah, i loved that scene! i was just like, "yo, pull back the camera bit! or use a wider lens!"

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

by the way, did everyone notice my clever play on "star wars" up there?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

one thing i gotta say, i was a little worried by the whole "batman trained by wise eastern monks" thing but they really went the right way with it! i was so glad that they did the whole "RAS AL-GHUL THE MIGHTY FIGHTER OF EVIL EVERYWHERE" thing!! it totally kept the comic book spirit, which i was grateful for.

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

what was ras al-ghul's organization called again? the league of amazing great guys?

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I think he led the League of Assassins.

Huk-L, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

the fab five!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

the organization of incredibly exciting superbuddies!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

the union of interesting best friends!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

You know what they need to do, they need to do
http://www.hillcity-comics.com/graphic_novels/new_graphic_novel179.jpg

TOMBOT, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Free Batman comic in Monday's New York Post!

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=460f2057b5d1ba047dc259334f6b7ca9&threadid=35579

Huk-L, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I was re-reading it a little bit last night, just flipping through. It's the most goddamned ridiculous thing ever inked. Holy shit.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 9 June 2005 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

yo leon or jams or whoever else has seen this movie:

do you (haha) actually remember the name of the league of crimefighting ninjas? i need it for my review and they didn't give me no press kit!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

wait, nic cage is starring in a wu-tang movie?!?!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Huk's right, it's the League of Assassins.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

no, in the movie it's something else!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The League of Shadows (I think, but not 100% certain).

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I just checked imdb and they have a bunch of guys listed as "Shadow Warriors" so I think that's probably correct.

Leon C. (Ex Leon), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

wait, nic cage is starring in a wu-tang movie?!?!

I'm getting in line RIGHT NOW.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 10 June 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

by the way, did everyone notice my clever play on "star wars" up there?

*pats slocki on head* There there, The Family Guy is waiting for you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Or The Family Man or whatever. Tea Leoni is not enough, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicolas Cage IS Peter Griffin!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i have the press kit at home, slocki, so if you still need it i can snag it over the weekend.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:49 (eighteen years ago) link

no it's cool, i think leon was right.

ned my point was that i liked batman better than star wars (my point was also that i made a stupid pun). thus, batman is waiting for me.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

(i have a terrible feeling that admitting i liked "the family man" is going to be the low-blow argument everyone uses against me when i disagree with them from now on. miccio i feel your agony)

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

You brought it on yourself! (I promise I will refrain...for now. ;-))

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"

s1ithi (slutsky), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I really liked the hell out of it, except for Katie, who looked like she'd deflate if you stuck a pin in a cheek.

Bale was superb, subtle, even. The more you reflect of his turn, the more you dig his skill.

AND HARDLY ANY CGI !!!

Ahem, anyway, whoah, Nolan does love icebergs, doesn't he?

The whole shantytown of misery surrounding Gotham was a great visual.

Caine was Caine--ie, fab.

(Yeah, Freeman in NURSE BETTY is fine creep-ah.)

Murphy truly was unnerving, like an inflated sneery GOP-advisor Depp.

Actually, lots of serious stuff here, presented in only slightly annoying serious mode. Combining David Goyers (BLADE123) and Nolan was a prefect balance, neutering the undesireable in both.

And I want a tee shirt that says "Does it come in black?"

Ian in Brooklyn, Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh--and the rooftop chase--I was thinking BULLIT, except, you know, on a roof. With Batman.

And Liam's haircut was really disturbing.

I'd pay to see it again--scary.

Ian in Brooklyn, Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I have been really excited about this since I saw the trailer. My reaction was 'Whoa: Batman + natural light: wahoo!!'. Like, Bruce Wayne finally looks like a normal guy, and Gotham City kind of looks like a regular city, and even though it's hyper-reality, it looks different. I hope it's good, I really do. I've only just started to actually enjoy Christian Bale as an actor (The Machinist convinced me), so if he screws this up, we're through.

xpost- whoa, Bullit? Fuckin A!!

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Woo! I am seeing it tomorrow on the local IMAX screen.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link


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