2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

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Nordlinger really needs his own thread of idiocy:

Obama and the Clock [Jay Nordlinger]
There are reasons not to talk about Ayers, Wright, Khalidi, etc. — not to talk about Obama and radicalism. But there are reasons for doing so, too. And I ask this: If not now, when? (If not us, who?!) After November 4, it will be too late. Isn’t now the time to talk about it, discuss it, air it? Let Obama address it? What are campaigns for?

And where’s the media’s love of “vetting” (a word we heard a lot in early Palin days)?

It could be that Obama’s past radicalism, or tolerance of radicalism, has nothing to do with his present self. It could be that he has come a long way. I am ever mindful that about half of NR’s founding editors and writers were ex-Communists. But the thing is, they were really ex: and they were leading anti-Communists. To change one’s mind can be glorious. But where is Obama now?

I have a feeling that, once Obama is elected — if he is elected — the media will have a new candor about him. For now it’s, “Isn’t Sarah Palin stupid and racist?” (To be a conservative is to be called stupid and racist, even if you’re a combination of Albert Einstein and Frederick Douglass.)

At a minimum, Obama should face up to his past activities and associations. He should offer some explanation — and who’s better at talking than he? And who’s better at talking about himself, and his life, and his thought, and his feelings, than he? How many self-examining books is he up to now? Ten?

The media will not make him address radicalism — I’m sorry to be so crude about it, but it’s true. It will be up to the McCain campaign, I suppose. And if not now . . .

Finally, don’t you think that Obama should be made to talk — very, very straight — about Born Alive? Or is that, too, out of bounds?

Strange world.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 9 October 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

biden thug life photoshop plz

xp

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Third Party Groundswell [Mark Steyn]

I don't think we can look to Ralph Nader draining enough lefties away from Barack to save a few purplish states. His big campaign stop at Dartmouth College on Monday drew an audience of eight. The Connecticut Valley Spectator reported the news on its obituaries page.

10/09 02:16 PM

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/07/30/PH2007073001158.jpg
"do it or don't, i got shit to do"

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/sotoalf/bidendone.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i got excited when i learned jay nordlinger was a music critic but it turns out it's just like opera shit not him gushing over gnarls barkley

and what, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I am loving this "say it to his face" meme. McCain loses either way, because if he just keeps avoiding confrontation he looks like a pussy and if he does it he won't be able say it convincingly to anyone (including himself).

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

elizabeth haselbeck on the view just now: "we're like, a menstrual cycle away from this election now!"

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

mccain's campaign is a real gusher right now

omar little, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

She is a one of the great political scholars of our times. xp

Nicole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

a finger-sized clog of mccain's campaign got stuck in palin's drain this morning and she had to fish it out

and what, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i swear to god she just said "i will bet my blonde hilights that if you line up both of these men's records side by side, you will vote for mccain."

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

paraphrasing, but the blonde highlights part is word for word

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

"say it to his face" is great because McCain simply can't do it, if he tries it'll be with the "my friends" patronizing, incredulous shrug he does whenever he attacks obama, like "am I the only person here who sees this? right folks?" which is not an effective demeanor for a direct asault on character -- it'd come across as chickenshit and damn well it should

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

It must be the ice or the money that I make (yeahhhh)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face ho
Say it to my face (yeah) say it to my face (yeah)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face (yeah)
It gotta be these cars or the trips that I take (what)
That make 'em wanna hate, won't you say it in my face bitch
Say it to my face (yeah) say it to my face (yeah)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face (yeah)

and what, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

meanwhile obama can plant his feet shoulder width apart, point his finger at john mccain, frown, and say "that's bullshit, john, and you damn well know it"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

josh marshall: "When this is all over I do not know whether Obama and Biden will allow McCain to meet with his testicles without preconditions. "

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Josh Marshall is my new favorite person.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Public Religion Research poll re: Catholic vote

Obama 51%
McCain 40%

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/candidates_as_simpsons.jpg

and what, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link

naw man, biden is more like troy mcclure or something

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

lol yeah i was gonna say

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/id/2201760

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty great crush-of-shame blog: http://ohcrapihaveacrushonsarahpalin.blogspot.com/

favorite posts are the ones breaking down pentecostalism & palin's church-hopping

Milton Parker, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe if obama loses the elections because people stayed home because they thought it was a 'sure thing' THEN you can call the party complacent

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

that article is dumb

horseshoe, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

omg that blog confirmed the existince of Palin/Rice stories

end times

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

gotta love an article that claims americans are just republicans that democrats have to fool into voting for them

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

no shit -- like "we're winning! but you should feel nervous and bad about being in the lead. you are a bad shiftless democrat and you don't deserve victory even if you win." FUCK RIGHT OFF

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at the pic of Martina Navratilova, tho

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

lol nader:

I've had a lot of hummus.

Hummus is nutritious.

And delicious.

It makes you stronger and healthier.

So, Bloomberg's report on the Lebanese claim to hummus got me to thinking about an idea that would help us raise funds to push our substantive agenda onto the front burner of American politics.

Here it is:

If you donate to Nader/Gonazlez by midnight tonight an amount that has the number three in it (three being the number of lemons in my mom's hummus recipe), we'll e-mail to you Rose Nader's hummus recipe tomorrow.

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/10/09/my-moms-hummus-recipe/

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

im seeing biden in like 3 hours so look for me on cnn after i call for the death of john mccain

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

kill him!

joe 40oz (deej), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

don't say it, biden might laugh!

omar little, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

(I say we let him goooooo.)

☑ (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Start a "say it to his face" chant.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ yes

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

early Palin days

Again, this makes me laugh.

Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

anyone see the video of the harpie at fox news freaking out at http://ohcrapihaveacrushonsarahpalin.blogspot.com/

"THIS IS MORTIFYING THIS IS MORTIFYING!!!!!"

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-schlesinger/2008/10/9/barack-obama-will-defeat-john-mccain--this-ones-over.html

god, i hope he's right. sorry if this was already posted.

Beatrix Kiddo, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

kinda dumb to call the election more than 3 weeks out but hey a pundit's gotta make a living somehow

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I am loving this "say it to his face" meme. McCain loses either way, because if he just keeps avoiding confrontation he looks like a pussy and if he does it he won't be able say it convincingly to anyone (including himself).

Also, if he "says it to his face", it'll sorta be on Obama's orders, right?

z "R" s (Z S), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty much, yeah

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, as soon as he does it, O can come back with "oh yeah i was waiting for this..."

goole, Thursday, 9 October 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"Say It To His Face" FTW.

jane hussein lane (suzy), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

even if McCain doesn't address the topic directly, it'll go over just as bad. "I just want to take a minute and I wanna clear the air here. John, do you have anything to say to my face?"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

"... my attractive, cancer-free, presidential mein which I call... my face?"

playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

today at this lol town hall in wisc. everyone in the crowd was telling mccain to his face to say it to obama's face

kgb (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man, if McCain can be goaded into making some sort of "Oh I'll tell it to his face alright..." comment, next Wednesday's debate could bring classic lulz.

z "R" s (Z S), Thursday, 9 October 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link


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