2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

'12 republican primaries are going to be an awesome shitshow unless the gop gets its shit together in a serious way over the next 4 years

It will be interesting 4 or 8 years from now whether or not Jeb Bush thinks people will have forgotten all about thier Bush hate.

I think I can pretty safely predict the Republican candidate for '12 will not be someone who ran this year.

i am feeling like this will be the case

seriously if somehow we're all still posting here in 4 years - mark sanford/linda lingle

also mccain might win and live 4 more years so he'll be the nominee in '12 did you guys ever consider that?

lingle would be a dem in most other states

bush won in '00 because of some big gore mistakes plus this weird nostalgia i feel like a lot of people had for bush sr, because he was seen as this noble dude who lost to a guy who ended up being kind of a d-bag. not saying it was all true, but that was the sense i got. i don't feel like there will be any bush nostalgia in the future for jeb to run on.

While in Congress, Sanford was a staunch conservative (he garnered a lifetime rating of 92 from the American Conservative Union), but displayed an occasional independent streak. He often would be one of two members of Congress, along with Ron Paul, voting against bills that otherwise got unanimous support. For example, he voted against a bill that preserved sites linked to the Underground Railroad. He opposed pork barrel projects even when they benefited his own district; in 1997 he voted against a defense appropriations bill that included funds for Charleston's harbor. Seeing himself as a "citizen-legislator," he did not run for reelection in 2000, in keeping with a promise to serve only three terms in the House.

lingle would be a dem in most other states

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how xxactly is this a detriment? also she = jew

also closet lez

not saying its a detriment, just saying.

that hasn't stopped future 2012 prospects lindsay graham + charlie crist

ok checking wiki i knew about the lez whisper campaign but i didnt know she was currently single, maybe not

rent, i already brought up the possibility of a resurgence of ruby ridge / waco / unabomber / tim mcveigh type shit and yeah, i'm pretty resigned to the fact it's gonna happen again

― playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut)

and probably come from the same people going ape about Barack Obama "associating with domestic terrorists".

Hay guys I just invented the PALIN DROME!

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/10/02/palin-debate-cp-5622896.jpg

Ha, YEMENI BARACK! Or, ok, carabine me yah.

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/10/02/palin-debate-cp-5622896.jpg

El Biden is inedible!

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/10/02/palin-debate-cp-5622896.jpg

I'm Alaskains' Obama eh? He am a Bosniak salami!

</harasses Sarah>

Biden on McCain Attacks: Say it to his Face

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The Delaware Senator chides McCain for recent attacks on Obama’s associations during a Thursday event in St. Joseph, Missouri.

Says he can make personal attacks on TV and at rallies but “McCain could not bring himself to look Barack Obama in the eye and say the same things to him” at the debate.

“In my neighborhood, when you’ve got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him.”

Nordlinger really needs his own thread of idiocy:

Obama and the Clock [Jay Nordlinger]
There are reasons not to talk about Ayers, Wright, Khalidi, etc. — not to talk about Obama and radicalism. But there are reasons for doing so, too. And I ask this: If not now, when? (If not us, who?!) After November 4, it will be too late. Isn’t now the time to talk about it, discuss it, air it? Let Obama address it? What are campaigns for?

And where’s the media’s love of “vetting” (a word we heard a lot in early Palin days)?

It could be that Obama’s past radicalism, or tolerance of radicalism, has nothing to do with his present self. It could be that he has come a long way. I am ever mindful that about half of NR’s founding editors and writers were ex-Communists. But the thing is, they were really ex: and they were leading anti-Communists. To change one’s mind can be glorious. But where is Obama now?

I have a feeling that, once Obama is elected — if he is elected — the media will have a new candor about him. For now it’s, “Isn’t Sarah Palin stupid and racist?” (To be a conservative is to be called stupid and racist, even if you’re a combination of Albert Einstein and Frederick Douglass.)

At a minimum, Obama should face up to his past activities and associations. He should offer some explanation — and who’s better at talking than he? And who’s better at talking about himself, and his life, and his thought, and his feelings, than he? How many self-examining books is he up to now? Ten?

The media will not make him address radicalism — I’m sorry to be so crude about it, but it’s true. It will be up to the McCain campaign, I suppose. And if not now . . .

Finally, don’t you think that Obama should be made to talk — very, very straight — about Born Alive? Or is that, too, out of bounds?

Strange world.

biden thug life photoshop plz

xp

Third Party Groundswell [Mark Steyn]

I don't think we can look to Ralph Nader draining enough lefties away from Barack to save a few purplish states. His big campaign stop at Dartmouth College on Monday drew an audience of eight. The Connecticut Valley Spectator reported the news on its obituaries page.

10/09 02:16 PM

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"do it or don't, i got shit to do"

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i got excited when i learned jay nordlinger was a music critic but it turns out it's just like opera shit not him gushing over gnarls barkley

I am loving this "say it to his face" meme. McCain loses either way, because if he just keeps avoiding confrontation he looks like a pussy and if he does it he won't be able say it convincingly to anyone (including himself).

elizabeth haselbeck on the view just now: "we're like, a menstrual cycle away from this election now!"

mccain's campaign is a real gusher right now

She is a one of the great political scholars of our times. xp

a finger-sized clog of mccain's campaign got stuck in palin's drain this morning and she had to fish it out

i swear to god she just said "i will bet my blonde hilights that if you line up both of these men's records side by side, you will vote for mccain."

paraphrasing, but the blonde highlights part is word for word

"say it to his face" is great because McCain simply can't do it, if he tries it'll be with the "my friends" patronizing, incredulous shrug he does whenever he attacks obama, like "am I the only person here who sees this? right folks?" which is not an effective demeanor for a direct asault on character -- it'd come across as chickenshit and damn well it should

It must be the ice or the money that I make (yeahhhh)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face ho
Say it to my face (yeah) say it to my face (yeah)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face (yeah)
It gotta be these cars or the trips that I take (what)
That make 'em wanna hate, won't you say it in my face bitch
Say it to my face (yeah) say it to my face (yeah)
They talk behind my back but they won't say it to my face (yeah)

meanwhile obama can plant his feet shoulder width apart, point his finger at john mccain, frown, and say "that's bullshit, john, and you damn well know it"

josh marshall: "When this is all over I do not know whether Obama and Biden will allow McCain to meet with his testicles without preconditions. "

Josh Marshall is my new favorite person.

Public Religion Research poll re: Catholic vote

Obama 51%
McCain 40%

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/candidates_as_simpsons.jpg

naw man, biden is more like troy mcclure or something

lol yeah i was gonna say

http://www.slate.com/id/2201760

pretty great crush-of-shame blog: http://ohcrapihaveacrushonsarahpalin.blogspot.com/

favorite posts are the ones breaking down pentecostalism & palin's church-hopping

maybe if obama loses the elections because people stayed home because they thought it was a 'sure thing' THEN you can call the party complacent

that article is dumb

omg that blog confirmed the existince of Palin/Rice stories

end times

gotta love an article that claims americans are just republicans that democrats have to fool into voting for them

no shit -- like "we're winning! but you should feel nervous and bad about being in the lead. you are a bad shiftless democrat and you don't deserve victory even if you win." FUCK RIGHT OFF

lol at the pic of Martina Navratilova, tho

lol nader:

I've had a lot of hummus.

Hummus is nutritious.

And delicious.

It makes you stronger and healthier.

So, Bloomberg's report on the Lebanese claim to hummus got me to thinking about an idea that would help us raise funds to push our substantive agenda onto the front burner of American politics.

Here it is:

If you donate to Nader/Gonazlez by midnight tonight an amount that has the number three in it (three being the number of lemons in my mom's hummus recipe), we'll e-mail to you Rose Nader's hummus recipe tomorrow.

http://www.votenader.org/blog/2008/10/09/my-moms-hummus-recipe/

im seeing biden in like 3 hours so look for me on cnn after i call for the death of john mccain

kill him!