2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

trains otm

i caught some of Rusty Humphries yesterday (the Wrinklepaws of the conservative talk radio crew) and he was playing clips from the audio book of Dreams from My Father, specifically ones where obama is dealing with being a black kid growing up in a white world and all the antipathy for he had for white culture. His argument was literally "we can not elect a man as racist as this to the presidency"

he also took a caller who was raised Muslim but is now Christian but claims to be able to have muslim raydar ("just like gays have gaydar") and he can tell that Obama is a muslim. He didn't challenge this caller, he coached him along to this conclusion.

i've been thinking -- the fact that mccain continues to appear alongside palin for public events & interviews shows how much he needs her association to appeal to the base, and how the campaign can't send her off untethered lest she make some ridiculous mistake -- strategically, they ought to be able to go their separate ways for weeks at a time and cover more ground but they are locked together in some sort of tandem free-fall.

they're like romeo and juliet, except with no plan

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so who will the Repugs run in '12? Fuckabee? Mittens? Newt?

Huckabee has to be a contender, I think.

no way.

Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy...

Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy...

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"Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy..."

He's not going to appeal to big money republicans unless he moves far far to the right.

i don't think there will be much realignment, nor will the gop change its stripes in four years. my guess is the party will become smaller and nastier. i think it will be mitt vs huck, with mitt winning the money people ie winning. newt is too personally disgusting to get much traction outside of professional conservatives.

xps

If it was based entirely on the "money people" it would have been Mitt this year.

I think I can pretty safely predict the Republican candidate for '12 will not be someone who ran this year.

Those videos make me so proud to live in the same county as these people. Then again, Strongsville is kind of a shithole, aside from its proximity to my alma mater, and cheap margaritas at the Mad Cactus.

2012 GOP Candidate= http://m.blog.hu/de/dewla/image/Futurama_nixons_head.png

John Boehner soooooo has his eye on the oval office, y'all.

If it was based entirely on the "money people" it would have been Mitt this year.

uh but mccain was in the equation this year? along with giuliani, frontrunner (wow remember that shit?) mccain had the security types and a general air of moderate electability about him.

shit maybe sarah palin will run in 4. oh the lols.

She'd get shredded during a Republican primary.

She'll end up the Dan Quayle of her times only without the VP experience.

Yeah, they love her now but will eat her alive later.

mark sanford/linda lingle 12

TOMORROW YOU'RE HOMELESS TONIGHT IT'S A BLAST

'12 republican primaries are going to be an awesome shitshow unless the gop gets its shit together in a serious way over the next 4 years

It will be interesting 4 or 8 years from now whether or not Jeb Bush thinks people will have forgotten all about thier Bush hate.

I think I can pretty safely predict the Republican candidate for '12 will not be someone who ran this year.

i am feeling like this will be the case

seriously if somehow we're all still posting here in 4 years - mark sanford/linda lingle

also mccain might win and live 4 more years so he'll be the nominee in '12 did you guys ever consider that?

lingle would be a dem in most other states

bush won in '00 because of some big gore mistakes plus this weird nostalgia i feel like a lot of people had for bush sr, because he was seen as this noble dude who lost to a guy who ended up being kind of a d-bag. not saying it was all true, but that was the sense i got. i don't feel like there will be any bush nostalgia in the future for jeb to run on.

While in Congress, Sanford was a staunch conservative (he garnered a lifetime rating of 92 from the American Conservative Union), but displayed an occasional independent streak. He often would be one of two members of Congress, along with Ron Paul, voting against bills that otherwise got unanimous support. For example, he voted against a bill that preserved sites linked to the Underground Railroad. He opposed pork barrel projects even when they benefited his own district; in 1997 he voted against a defense appropriations bill that included funds for Charleston's harbor. Seeing himself as a "citizen-legislator," he did not run for reelection in 2000, in keeping with a promise to serve only three terms in the House.

lingle would be a dem in most other states

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how xxactly is this a detriment? also she = jew

also closet lez

not saying its a detriment, just saying.

that hasn't stopped future 2012 prospects lindsay graham + charlie crist

ok checking wiki i knew about the lez whisper campaign but i didnt know she was currently single, maybe not

rent, i already brought up the possibility of a resurgence of ruby ridge / waco / unabomber / tim mcveigh type shit and yeah, i'm pretty resigned to the fact it's gonna happen again

― playing the abortion card (elmo argonaut)

and probably come from the same people going ape about Barack Obama "associating with domestic terrorists".

Hay guys I just invented the PALIN DROME!

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Ha, YEMENI BARACK! Or, ok, carabine me yah.

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El Biden is inedible!

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I'm Alaskains' Obama eh? He am a Bosniak salami!

</harasses Sarah>

Biden on McCain Attacks: Say it to his Face

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The Delaware Senator chides McCain for recent attacks on Obama’s associations during a Thursday event in St. Joseph, Missouri.

Says he can make personal attacks on TV and at rallies but “McCain could not bring himself to look Barack Obama in the eye and say the same things to him” at the debate.

“In my neighborhood, when you’ve got something to say to a guy, you look him in the eye and you say it to him.”

Nordlinger really needs his own thread of idiocy:

Obama and the Clock [Jay Nordlinger]
There are reasons not to talk about Ayers, Wright, Khalidi, etc. — not to talk about Obama and radicalism. But there are reasons for doing so, too. And I ask this: If not now, when? (If not us, who?!) After November 4, it will be too late. Isn’t now the time to talk about it, discuss it, air it? Let Obama address it? What are campaigns for?

And where’s the media’s love of “vetting” (a word we heard a lot in early Palin days)?

It could be that Obama’s past radicalism, or tolerance of radicalism, has nothing to do with his present self. It could be that he has come a long way. I am ever mindful that about half of NR’s founding editors and writers were ex-Communists. But the thing is, they were really ex: and they were leading anti-Communists. To change one’s mind can be glorious. But where is Obama now?

I have a feeling that, once Obama is elected — if he is elected — the media will have a new candor about him. For now it’s, “Isn’t Sarah Palin stupid and racist?” (To be a conservative is to be called stupid and racist, even if you’re a combination of Albert Einstein and Frederick Douglass.)

At a minimum, Obama should face up to his past activities and associations. He should offer some explanation — and who’s better at talking than he? And who’s better at talking about himself, and his life, and his thought, and his feelings, than he? How many self-examining books is he up to now? Ten?

The media will not make him address radicalism — I’m sorry to be so crude about it, but it’s true. It will be up to the McCain campaign, I suppose. And if not now . . .

Finally, don’t you think that Obama should be made to talk — very, very straight — about Born Alive? Or is that, too, out of bounds?

Strange world.

biden thug life photoshop plz

xp

Third Party Groundswell [Mark Steyn]

I don't think we can look to Ralph Nader draining enough lefties away from Barack to save a few purplish states. His big campaign stop at Dartmouth College on Monday drew an audience of eight. The Connecticut Valley Spectator reported the news on its obituaries page.

10/09 02:16 PM

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"do it or don't, i got shit to do"

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i got excited when i learned jay nordlinger was a music critic but it turns out it's just like opera shit not him gushing over gnarls barkley

I am loving this "say it to his face" meme. McCain loses either way, because if he just keeps avoiding confrontation he looks like a pussy and if he does it he won't be able say it convincingly to anyone (including himself).

elizabeth haselbeck on the view just now: "we're like, a menstrual cycle away from this election now!"

mccain's campaign is a real gusher right now

She is a one of the great political scholars of our times. xp