2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

"I have seen shit that'll turn you WHITE!"

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really happy to see these people lose, but i'm worried about how their festering hate will manifest itself over the next few years. they can now see themselves more easily as disenfranchised and so more can justify to themselves their fantasies of liberal elite commie queers running the country. and then form mobs and the like.

I'm interested in the special report on why people vote the way they do. I want to see how many pages they can stretch out "you either vote like your parents did or you vote opposite of how your parents did".

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I think the time cover is supposed to read left to right ("black and white" to "full color", uh) but visually it doesn't scan that way, it is pretty dumb

Everyone should be worried about that. These fuckers are scary. That said they've been around for a while and feel persecuted regardless of electoral representation so I'm not sure there's really that much greater a threat here.

youtuber guy comes off as a way bigger dick in the 2nd one. i'd say shit just as stupid as those ppl if some asshole was coming at me with a camera asking retardo questions like that.

o rly?

rent, i already brought up the possibility of a resurgence of ruby ridge / waco / unabomber / tim mcveigh type shit and yeah, i'm pretty resigned to the fact it's gonna happen again

maybe we will get lucky and polygamist mormon enclaves will turn on the evangelical deep militia folks

I like to think of it as a logical conclusion to the Southern Strategy. The GOP wanted them, they got 'em. Enjoy.

at the same time, it is a losing cause at this point for them. that element will always be there, but it seems to be getting more isolated, with obama maybe drawing off some of the moderate, borderline wackos. having said that, the persecution complex is probably inversely proportional to the size of your group, so they might just become more...potent.

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lmao

i think the uber rightwingers have won occasional battles but i really do think they're slowly losing the war. look at this country now compared to thirty, forty years ago w/r/t tolerance. i think the fire-breathing assholes have become louder as their numbers have dwindled.

its a demographics battle and they are doomed to lose

trains otm

i caught some of Rusty Humphries yesterday (the Wrinklepaws of the conservative talk radio crew) and he was playing clips from the audio book of Dreams from My Father, specifically ones where obama is dealing with being a black kid growing up in a white world and all the antipathy for he had for white culture. His argument was literally "we can not elect a man as racist as this to the presidency"

he also took a caller who was raised Muslim but is now Christian but claims to be able to have muslim raydar ("just like gays have gaydar") and he can tell that Obama is a muslim. He didn't challenge this caller, he coached him along to this conclusion.

i've been thinking -- the fact that mccain continues to appear alongside palin for public events & interviews shows how much he needs her association to appeal to the base, and how the campaign can't send her off untethered lest she make some ridiculous mistake -- strategically, they ought to be able to go their separate ways for weeks at a time and cover more ground but they are locked together in some sort of tandem free-fall.

they're like romeo and juliet, except with no plan

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so who will the Repugs run in '12? Fuckabee? Mittens? Newt?

Huckabee has to be a contender, I think.

no way.

Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy...

Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy...

― Michael White, Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:24 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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"Southern, religious, media-savvy, seems like an affable guy..."

He's not going to appeal to big money republicans unless he moves far far to the right.

i don't think there will be much realignment, nor will the gop change its stripes in four years. my guess is the party will become smaller and nastier. i think it will be mitt vs huck, with mitt winning the money people ie winning. newt is too personally disgusting to get much traction outside of professional conservatives.

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If it was based entirely on the "money people" it would have been Mitt this year.

I think I can pretty safely predict the Republican candidate for '12 will not be someone who ran this year.

Those videos make me so proud to live in the same county as these people. Then again, Strongsville is kind of a shithole, aside from its proximity to my alma mater, and cheap margaritas at the Mad Cactus.

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John Boehner soooooo has his eye on the oval office, y'all.

If it was based entirely on the "money people" it would have been Mitt this year.

uh but mccain was in the equation this year? along with giuliani, frontrunner (wow remember that shit?) mccain had the security types and a general air of moderate electability about him.

shit maybe sarah palin will run in 4. oh the lols.

She'd get shredded during a Republican primary.

She'll end up the Dan Quayle of her times only without the VP experience.

Yeah, they love her now but will eat her alive later.

mark sanford/linda lingle 12

TOMORROW YOU'RE HOMELESS TONIGHT IT'S A BLAST

'12 republican primaries are going to be an awesome shitshow unless the gop gets its shit together in a serious way over the next 4 years

It will be interesting 4 or 8 years from now whether or not Jeb Bush thinks people will have forgotten all about thier Bush hate.

I think I can pretty safely predict the Republican candidate for '12 will not be someone who ran this year.

i am feeling like this will be the case

seriously if somehow we're all still posting here in 4 years - mark sanford/linda lingle

also mccain might win and live 4 more years so he'll be the nominee in '12 did you guys ever consider that?

lingle would be a dem in most other states

bush won in '00 because of some big gore mistakes plus this weird nostalgia i feel like a lot of people had for bush sr, because he was seen as this noble dude who lost to a guy who ended up being kind of a d-bag. not saying it was all true, but that was the sense i got. i don't feel like there will be any bush nostalgia in the future for jeb to run on.

While in Congress, Sanford was a staunch conservative (he garnered a lifetime rating of 92 from the American Conservative Union), but displayed an occasional independent streak. He often would be one of two members of Congress, along with Ron Paul, voting against bills that otherwise got unanimous support. For example, he voted against a bill that preserved sites linked to the Underground Railroad. He opposed pork barrel projects even when they benefited his own district; in 1997 he voted against a defense appropriations bill that included funds for Charleston's harbor. Seeing himself as a "citizen-legislator," he did not run for reelection in 2000, in keeping with a promise to serve only three terms in the House.

lingle would be a dem in most other states

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Thursday, October 9, 2008 2:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how xxactly is this a detriment? also she = jew

also closet lez

not saying its a detriment, just saying.

that hasn't stopped future 2012 prospects lindsay graham + charlie crist