MELLON POLLIE AND THE INFINITE SADNESS

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Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 8 March 2008 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Anybody else get the Aeroplane Flies High box set? It has some really cool stuff...I remember one super mellow James Iha song especially being great.

I'm gonna go up to the attic and get it.

nickalicious, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

It has like seven great mellow Iha songs on it. Makes me think he should've just saved them up and released another solo record...then again I suppose Iha makes more off of Pumpkins obscurities than from his actual solo records.

Simon H., Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Iha's SP b-sides are alright, but his solo album...who was it that called it "the gayest album ever recorded"? Pretty OTM

Z S, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

My memory was OTM. "Bodies" FTW, "33" close 2nd.

Sundar, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Is any of the stuff on that Machina II album any good? There was never any proper release of that, right? I seem to remember the story was that Billy pressed 25 vinyl copies, and someone made heinous low bit rate rips of the vinyl, and that circulated... am I way off there? Surprised they haven't put that out "properly."

Savannah Smiles, Saturday, 8 March 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

The rips don't sound that bad. "Slow Dawn" is on Judas O and doesn't sound any different from the mp3s of Machina II.

Simon H., Saturday, 8 March 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"White Spyder" is good

Curt1s Stephens, Saturday, 8 March 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Machina 2 has some nice things on it, depending what flavor of Pumpkins you go for. It's all less polished than MCIS, but thankfully less overcookeed than Machina itself. For the rawk I would go for "Glass' Theme," "Car Star," "White Spider"... then there are some nice lush midtempo things, mainly "If There Is A God," "Here's To The Atom Bomb," and James Iha's lovely "Go." "Lucky 13" has sweet drumming and a cool weirdo riff, kinda feels like a turned-down "The End Is The Beginning Is The End."

It's all DEFINITELY worth hearing if you're a fan.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

It also seems to be where some of the Adore-era rock material ended up, if I understand the chronology correctly. I remember a Spin interview around the time of Adore where the interviewer was like "I visited you in the studio and heard all these awesome rock songs and none of them are on the album" and Billy was like, well, they didn't fit in well, or something like that. I'm almost certain "Dross" is one of those songs, for example - but Ned would be able to clarify...

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 8 March 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

tonight I heard a dance remix of "Zero"? Anybody know where I can find this?

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:35 (sixteen years ago) link

omg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfTYbqUTZG0

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, what a find

Simon H., Sunday, 9 March 2008 04:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahah, what a cute widdle goth boy he was. "Dude I saw that one Cure Lovecats video, I have an idea!"

but Ned would be able to clarify...

Really, the whole slew of songs recorded from 96-97 onward all become this bizarre mass of material. I'd say just go here and check out individual song histories as best as they are known. (For instance, that indicates "Dross" was done no earlier than late 98, where, say, "For Martha" first hit tape in 1994.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 March 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

bumping 1 day early

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 24 March 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Where's the Aeroplane Flies poll?

billstevejim, Monday, 24 March 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link

This is a nigh on impossible choice. I went with "To Forgive" in the end. If I could pick one "loud" one and one "quiet" one it might be a little easier. I might go with "X.Y.U." for my choice for the former.

I hope enough people vote in this to make the results interesting.

krakow, Monday, 24 March 2008 09:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Single disc version:

Zero
Thirty-Three
Here Is No Why
Fuck You
Love
Cupid De Locke
Galapagos
Muzzle
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
Bodies
In The Arms of Sleep
1979
Thru The Eyes of Ruby
By Starlight

Tim F, Monday, 24 March 2008 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Mellon Collie needs the line "the world is a vampire" in it somewhere.

billstevejim, Monday, 24 March 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Where's the Aeroplane Flies poll?

-- billstevejim, Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

^^^^

Alex in Baltimore, Monday, 24 March 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Do it by disc not song though pls.

nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

haha I made a bicycling mix tape this weekend and it has "Jellybelly" on it 3 times.

nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Also as a seasoned cynical adult and not an optimistic hormonal teenager, I am really impressed at how strong a reaction I still have emotionally to "Galapagos".

nickalicious, Monday, 24 March 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Surprised bullet did so well!

nickalicious, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Dissappointed bullet did so well.

our work is never over, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

You crazy

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoever voted "Take Me Down" deserves some credit.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Those three songs deserved at least one vote!

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 01:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Disappointed bullet did so well.

Ditto. Also how did "Scorched" get two but "X.Y.U." only got one?

Simon H., Tuesday, 25 March 2008 04:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"Bullet" is a great song, guys. Admit it. (I wouldn't have voted for it, but I'm certainly not disappointed!)

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of people seem to voting, having only heard the singles...

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link

That was my first thought when I saw the results too. The singles are disappointingly prominent, when for me at least they are by far the less interesting songs on the album.

krakow, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link

hahah yeah, pretty amazing that the likes of 'thru the eyes of ruby' should be so comprehensively overlooked in favour of the (admittedly more immediate-sounding) 'bullet with butterfly wings'

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link

"1979" a deserving front-runner though (even if I prefer "Thirty-Three").

Tim F, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 10:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"Beautiful" should have gotten at least one vote just for the "na na na" part.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

"beautiful" is a really sweet track.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

GOAT album

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

is the "Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo" boot any good? I saw them on the tour after this (I think Veruca Salt opened? I was like 11) and I would lvoe to hear what they sounded like, that seems like the msot popular one

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

No votes for 'Beautiful'? Fuck, man.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

"Mellon Collie and The Infinite Ga Ga Goo Goo"

lol

how's life, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Hard for me to think that any song besides "1979" should win this. It's also hard to believe that the time between now and when "1979" came out (1995) is longer than between 1979 and 1995.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

1979 is so overrated, it's good for the first minute or so and then it just does the same thing for another three minutes

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, if I compiled a Top 10 of my favourites from this album, '1979' wouldn't make it in there. I love the way '1979' sounds, but I definitely think there's much much better songs than it here.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

Poliopolice = the Accidental Parodist

que sera sriracha (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

1979 is so overrated, it's good for the first minute or so and then it just does the same thing for another three minutes

this describes most songs though. i like this song because it, more than any other song on the album, captures an elusive nostalgia that is hard to describe. Most of this album is full of lazy, indistinct, by-the-numbers Pumpkins tracks that sound like they were cranked out very quickly. "33" is good though.

Poliopolice, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

1979, here is no why, ruby, tonight, muzzle, porcelina are the most euphoric songs on the record so they will always win over the dour/angry/goofy songs. even though the range of moods is what makes mcis so amazing.

yellow jacket (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

Heyman (crüt), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Crut OTM.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:16 (eleven years ago) link


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