ILX'S 100 GREATEST VIDEO GAMES EVER

Civ II is kind of weird in that I've played it the most of any Civ and it's obviously terrific, but it also has bad parts (caravan trading, micromanagement) that the later games fixed. And yet it's still my favorite.

OTM

Phil if you want to play a championship manager and don't know about football, start with CM2, it's way easier to get into and you won't notice the players are old.

Phil if you want to play a championship manager and don't know about football, start with CM2, it's way easier to get into and you won't notice the players are old.

maybe i'll just stick to romance of the three kingdoms 8. they cant be that much different anyway?

No Arkanoid/Breakout (or PONG!) games in the list!

Arkanoid is on the list. It shouldn't be.

Best breakout = the one free w/the ZX Spectrum.

Oops, my bad re: Arkanoid; eyes glazed over around then. I think what I meant was (it is the nineties and is time for) KLAX! My favourite Breakout clone was Ghox, which had, uh, monsters & spells.
http://homepage1.nifty.com/shootingstar/ot_c_ghox1.JPG

also:
http://www.dinosaurgardens.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/videocraze-800.jpg

There are few games in the marketplace that Chris has not mastered. He has extensive experience at playing video games and diciphering (sic) their patterns and techniques of play. His analytical mind automatically envisions patterns and virtual line drawings of the games. He currently logs more than 8 hours of play per day and has been coined by his peers and friends as the 'Human Video Game'.

I missed all yesterday so I need to sit down and read this when my eyes are uncrossed and I'm marginally less pukey but as a quick observation TETRIS IS NOT THE NUMBER 2 GAME EVER YOU CLUELESS ASPIE RUBES FUCK YOU FUCK YOU ALL DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE

Ahem.

My votes, which I'm wondering if Dom got cos I voted highest for some of this shit and never got no credit at all WHY DID YOU HAVE TO EQUALISE WATFORD YOU JAMMY TOSSBAGS?

1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2. Morrowind
3. Tomb Raider
4. Sid Meier's Civilization II
5. Half-Life
6. Grand Theft Auto III
7. Championship Manager/Football Manager series (Sports Interactive)
8. The Secret of Monkey Island II: Le Chuck's Revenge
9. Lords of Midnight
10. Dragontorc
11. We Love Katamari
12. Eye of the Beholder II
13. Treasure Island Dizzy
14. Super Mario World
15. Super Mario Brothers 3
16. Sonic the Hedgehog
17. Rainbow Islands
18. Lemmings
19. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
20. Monkey Island
21. Sid Meier's Pirates!
22. Super Mario Brothers 2
23. Nethack
24. Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
25. Worms
26. Q-Bert
27. Cannon Fodder
28. Head Over Heels
29. Football Manager series (Kevin Tom)
30. Defender

ONE MUST FALL, OMG

people complaining should have been perhaps more fastidious during the nomination period, Diablo II being Blizzard's only contribution to these results is kind of ZUH

-- El Tomboto, Monday, 5 May 2008 02:41 (10 hours ago) Link

i would've if i even KNEW ABOUT IT YOU SIMPERING LITTLE LORD FAUNTLEROY FAGBABY

you people. YOUUUU PEOPLE

Shit, I forgot about the robot upgrade thing in One Must Fall! Really great idea - I've always thought fighting games that played more like RPGs were an under-explored genre.

srsly, that game almost made me fail out of school

too many nintendo players for this poll to be valid

^^^^^^

that's like me saying "why so many games for pc and not mac"

but theyre all the same game

My thirty, lower-than-100 bolded for sadness's sake:

1. Chrono Trigger
2. Fallout
3. Final Fantasy Tactics
4. Metal Gear Solid
5. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
6. Worms Armageddon
7. Super Mario Brothers 3
8. Portal
9. Tetris
10. Super Mario World
11. Suikoden II (TOMBOT TELL ME YOU PLAYED THE PS1 SUIKO GAMES... also the fifth one is good)
12. Half-Life 2
13. Championship Manager/Football Manager series (Sports Interactive)
14. Super Robot Taisen: Original Generation (so good)
15. Castlevania: Symphony Of the Night
16. Mars Matrix
17. Xenogears
18. SNK vs. Capcom 2
19. River City Ransom
20. Bioshock
21. Final Fantasy XII
22. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
23. Rez
24. Shadow of the Colossus
25. PacMan
26. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (seems like the perfect game for an ilxor)
27. Warlords
28. Planescape: Torment
29. Final Fantasy VII
30. Earthbound (i am SHOCKED)

I'd love to see the HMs, the ones who never quite made 100, because seriously I'll be shocked if Earthbound isn't #101 or something.

too many cheetos drenched GTA dorks fuck you

Most overrated game of the 90s? That screenshot says it all - four hideous deformed freaks in a completely undifferentiated space. My friend Matt and I played this a couple years ago, and every deathmatch ended with us running out of time before we even found each other to try and shoot it out. Like, "OK, I'm gonna stand still in this room. You come here and shoot me." "Fuck, how do I get over there?" This game sucks.

-- Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 May 2008 19:01 (Yesterday) Link

what the hell ever consider that maybe YOU sucks???

that championship manager game looks like something i would definitely geek out over if i was british or there was an american equiv

no GTA:Mario Cart?

for all the complaining about too many nintendo games i am way disappointed there is no excitebike

that championship manager game looks like something i would definitely geek out over if i was british or there was an american equiv

-- deeznuts, Monday, 5 May 2008 17:55 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Sports Interactive's American connects have worked on these two games, never played them though so I have no idea if they're in the same quality bracket:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_Eastside_Hockey_Manager_2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_Park_Baseball

Just as a heads-up, these are the games that placed 101-120:

101. Geoff Hammond's Formula 1 Grand Prix series
102. Tekken 2
103. Football Manager series (Kevin Tom)
104. Q-Bert
105. Shadow of the Colossus
106. Crysis
107. 101. Zarch/Virus
108. Bust a Move
109. Daley Thompson’s Decathlon
110. Final Fantasy XII
111. Treasure Island Dizzy
112. International Track & Field
113. Jungle Strike
114. King's Quest
115. Tempest
116. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
117. Warlords
118. Autoduel
119. Strider
120. X-Wing

I've played them. Football Manager is leagues better than EHM, I didn't get too into OOTPB but it is apparently similarly awesome among baseball stat-heads. But yeah, EHM completely lost the plot and played like a shitty communist FM. Plus the player qualities were very, very dubious (Antero Niittymaki as the best goaltender of a generation is just LOL).

I played EH becaue my friend like FM but I didn't know soccer. I played FM later and it got me into soccer. If you are aspie, pick up FM and you will soon be knowing the soccer very much.

Xpost lol no Earthbound still?! That is seriously astounding.

I put Morrowind 2ND and it didn't break the top 120???

My ballot. Games that didn't make the Top 100

1. Secret of Mana
2. Frontier: Elite II - not enough Commodore Amiga owners up in this thread
3. Half-Life
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
5. Super Monkey Ball
6. Tetris
7. Goldeneye
8. Lemmings
9. The Secret of Monkey Island II: Le Chuck’s Revenge
10. Tomb Raider
11. Super Mario Kart
12. Galaga
13. Sonic the Hedgehog
14. Super Mario Brothers 3
15. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved - play this if you haven't: http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/grid/wars.htm
16. Monkey Island
17. Sid Meier’s Pirates!
18. Super Mario Bros
19. Sid Meier’s Civilization II
20. Bust a Move
21. Zelda: Ocarina of Time
22. International Track & Field
23. Championship Manager/Football Manager series (Sports Interactive)
24. Super Mario World
25. Bomberman
26. Super Mario Brothers 2
27. Cannon Fodder
28. Rainbow Islands
29. Chuckie Egg
30. Chrono Trigger

People who voted for Chrono Trigger higher than SOM are crazy.

Games that didn't make the top 100 in bold, that is.

Only four missing out. Do I have the most MOR tastes on ILG?

11. Suikoden II (TOMBOT TELL ME YOU PLAYED THE PS1 SUIKO GAMES... also the fifth one is good)

I have suikoden v at home waiting for me to finish a bunch of other silly stuff.

15. Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved - play this if you haven't: http://worldofstuart.excellentcontent.com/grid/wars.htm

-- caek, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:45 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I saw Stuart Campbell (online) the other day trolling a feminist opinions4u blog comments section. Big inspiration on me as a writer, obv.

dom wtf i never voted for zelda or a resident evil?!?!?!?!?

hi it's ken c here's my list lololol

1. Dance Dance Revolution
2. Pro Evo series
3. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
4. Grand Theft Auto III
5. Sid Meier's Civilization II
6. Sonic the Hedgehog
7. Another World (aka Out Of This World)
8. Metal Gear Solid
9. Half-Life 2
10. Prince of Persia
11. Lemmings
12. Worms
13. Super Mario Bros
14. Contra
15. Wii Sports
16. Singstar series - great game spoilt by embracement from hipsters
17. Zarch/Virus
18. X-Wing
19. Bomberman
20. Bubble Bobble

were tombot and I the only people to vote for secret of mana? how did you place it tombot? did you track down your ballot yet?

Thanks very much for doing this dom. would love to see your ballot. stuart campbell and friends feature pretty heavy in my magazine thread which never really took off ;_; A history of your magazine/newspaper reading, from birth to present

caek, i bet lots of people had only 0 or 1 not even make the list

tombot, you should really check out i/ii if you can (i recommend emulating or something). they are seriously he best rpgs of that era. so much <3 for them.

I repped for the first Suikoden somewhere way up there. I hadn't played Shining Force before I first played Suikoden, so I was really blown away by the whole strategy thing with the combat.

1) Nethack
Mega Man 2
Katamari Damacy
Lords of Midnight
Raid On Bungeling Bay
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past
Scorched Earth
Super Mario World
Sid Meier's Civilization II
Monkey Island
TMNT 4: Turtles in Time
Spy Hunter
Super Metroid
Super Mario 64
Fallout
Ultima IV
The Sims
Wolfenstein 3D
Bomberman
Castlevania
Super Mario Brothers 3
Links 386 Pro
Pac-Man
Out-Run
Goldeneye
Actraiser
Duck Tales
Worms Armageddon
30) Double Dragon II: The Revenge

were tombot and I the only people to vote for secret of mana?

I did, can't recall where... ballot posted a little bit upthread.

1. Q-Bert
2. Planescape: Torment
3. Baldurs Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
4. Knights of the Old Republic
5. Marble Madness
6. Tempest
7. Jet Set Radio
8. Tetris
9. Eye of the Beholder II
10. Sid Meier's Civilization II
11. Dune 2
12. Centipede
13. Pole Position
14. Super Mario Kart
15. Arkanoid
16. Diablo 2
17. Prince of Persia
18. Tomb Raider
19. Metroid
20. Galaga
21. Defender
22. PacMan
23. Goldeneye
24. 720
25. Super Puzzle Fighter Alpha II Turbo
26. The Secret of Monkey Island II: Le Chuck's Revenge
27. Rock Band
28. Spy Hunter
29. Tekken 2
30. Bomberman

9 of my games missed the top 100, and 3 of those were in the top 120.

Okay that Top 100 in full:

#100: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
#99: Kirby's Adventure
#98: Wolfenstein 3-D
#97: Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
#96: Diablo II
#95: Super Monkey Ball
#94: Super Mario Galaxy
#93: Metroid: Zero Mission
#92: Maniac Mansion
#91: Rez
#90: Super Mario Bros 2
#89: Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon
#88: Lords of Midnight
#87: Double Dragon II - The Revenge
#86: Master of Magic
#85: WipEout 2097
#84: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
#83: A Mind Forever Voyaging
#82: Halo: Combat Evolved
#81: Defender
#80: River City Ransom
#79: Ico
#78: Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
#77: Spy Hunter
#76: Xenogears
#75: Ninja Gaiden
#74: Elite
#73: Scorched Earth
#72: Castlevania
#71: Metroid
#70: Deus Ex
#69: Tomb Raider
#68: Bioshock
#67: Contra
#66: The Sims
#65: Secret of Mana
#64: Nethack
#63: Cannon Fodder
#62: Planescape: Torment
#61: Final Fantasy VII
#60: Prince of Persia
#59: Sega NHL series
#58: R-Type
#57: Grim Fandango
#56: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time
#55: Galaga
#54: Rainbow Islands: The Story of Bubble Bobble 2
#53: Guitar Hero
#52: Worms Armageddon
#51: Jet Set Radio
#50: Gran Turismo series
#49: Chuckie Egg
#48: Marble Madness
#47: Pac-Man
#46: Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
#45: Dance Dance Revolution series
#44: Wii Sports
#43: Micro Machines
#42: Portal
#41: Singstar series
#40: Arkanoid
#39: The Legend of Zelda
#38: Another World
#37: Final Fantasy Tactics
#36: Katamari Damacy
#35: Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge
#34: Sensible Soccer series
#33: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
#32: Madden NFL series
#31: Half-Life
#30: Resident Evil 4
#29: We ♥ Katamari
#28: Worms
#27: Speedball II: Brutal Deluxe
#26: Grand Theft Auto III
#25: GoldenEye 007
#24: Bomberman
#23: Fallout
#22: Bubble Bobble
#21: Mega Man 2
#20: Sid Meier's Pirates!
#19: Super Metroid
#18: Super Mario 64
#17: Championship Manager/Football Manager series
#16: Metal Gear Solid
#15: Super Mario Bros. 3
#14: Super Mario Bros
#13: Half-Life 2
#12: Pro Evolution Soccer series
#11: Chrono Trigger
#10: The Secret of Monkey Island
#9: Sonic the Hedgehog
#8: Lemmings
#7: Super Mario Kart
#6: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
#5: Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
#4: Super Mario World
#3: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
#2: Tetris
#1: Sid Meier's Civilization II

Metal Gear Solid is mad over-rated, I think the Monkey Islands are the wrong way round, and you might as well have voted Attack of the Mutant Camels as bleeding Tetris, but hey! that's democracy.

too many nintendo players for this poll to be valid

yeh because nintendo players are such a small minority in gaming ... er ... ok cos across 20 odd years nintendo games have consistently rated poorly ... um ... ok i give up.

Okay that Top 100 in full:

I did that upthread!

lol sorry Patrick I looked but didn't see it ow my head

it's upside down both times

It's the right way up. You're upside down.

My list (looks like they all placed, except maybe Quake 2?):

A Mind Forever Voyaging
Deus Ex
Grim Fandango
Fallout
Final Fantasy VII
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Civilization II
Monkey Island
Bioshock
The Sims
Chrono Trigger
Guitar Hero
Super Mario Bros
Baldur’s Gate II
Maniac Mansion
Madden NFL
Oblivion
Legend of Zelda
Theme Hospital
Xenogears
Monkey Island II: Le Chuck’s Revenge
Super Mario 64
Secret of Mana
Quake 2
GTA III

I don't get the love for Tomb Raider now and I didn't then. Duke Nukem 3D & Quake came out that year and Goldeneye came out the next year. Tomb Raider's levels feel like a shitty tech demo.

Like I said I think it's incredibly atmospheric, the music and the visuals give me a real sense of place and made me want to explore it. I like the melancholy of it and the almost loneliness of those remote tombs, and it achieves that despite shitty cut scenes and crap voice acting.

I liked how everything looked like a bunch of dumpy polygons with shitty textures

Didn't have a PC back then so didn't know Quake, I don't think Duke Nukem's graphics are all that, I hated that 2D-ish thing going on with the scenery.

Duke Nukem's gfx sucked but the multiplayer was awesome

I can totally understand people finding Tomb Raider boring, I think I just have a high tolerance for slow stuff.

man hating "dumpy polygons with shitty textures" in tomb raider, but liking duke nukem 3d's multiplayer? it's almost like you just roll dice to decide what to not like

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