Robert Wyatt: Classic or Dud?

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I don't think Cuckooland is one of his most loved albums, but I love it. Forest is a powerful Romani holocaust song and has really beautiful lyrics by Alfreda. It makes me well up every time.


It’s almost certainly my most listened to record of Wyatt’s. I first heard some of it when I picked up His Greayest Misses and realized the “cheap keyboards” weren’t a problem for me in the slightest.

And yes, Forest is one of his all time best. The sad pub singalong with Eno in tow is just perfect.

This news makes me very sad.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 February 2024 01:57 (three months ago) link

Thanks, I relate to all of that, although your experience goes deeper--wish I'd been listening to him at 21!
― dow
deeper for starting that early, and running from then to now--which, in my case, would be quite a distance.
He doesn't always sound sad, exactly, like the blues isn't always sad, it's just life, and in his case, contemplation, hovering or coming through, around other sounds*---like Miles Davis, and we were talking about "Desafinado" way upthread---what does that mean, wiki? "Out of tune"! Yeah, sure, like unison is out of tune, like the blues is out of tune, the man with the bent note in that chair over there, so be it.
*Not that he can't be assertive with it, like in "At Last I Am Free."

dow, Friday, 9 February 2024 03:36 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

It doesn't seem like this has been posted before, but I loved it. One hour doc from 1998, Italian made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z5zy6MaFtI

nickn, Monday, 26 February 2024 07:02 (two months ago) link

missed this. heartbreaking

Friend of mine managed to end up backstage at a Patti Smith concert (in the Southbank probably?) Verlaine might have been there and Gillespie almost certainly was and various other luminaries. He said everyone there were complete arseholes and then he noticed a guy sitting (he thought) in a corner, pint of beer in one hand and a cigarette in the other, covered in ash. He went over to talk to him and it was Robert Wyatt and he was like, "What do you make of all this?" and he was basically the only genuine person in the room.

^exactly as you would expect

A street taco cart named Des'ree (Deflatormouse), Monday, 26 February 2024 07:16 (two months ago) link

Robert Wyatt is the best <3
Wish him all the love

A street taco cart named Des'ree (Deflatormouse), Monday, 26 February 2024 07:16 (two months ago) link

this sux :(

A street taco cart named Des'ree (Deflatormouse), Monday, 26 February 2024 07:17 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

Patti Smith, Verlaine weren't genuine enough, or weren't in the room? Oh well.
Just came across this pitch to Whiney G., for long-gone Paper Thin Walls, which was text x streaming, quite the thing in '07:

re: mixtape possibilities for year-end special issue coverage
Wed, 31 Oct 2007

Ends up being surprisingly hard to pick the order of preference. But
in terms of the vibe, the degree to which I think I know how to
describe it adequately(at least as I begin writing this), the musical
excellence on first listen (the chances of it grabbing the jaded
webears right off, or at least during first listen, cos I doubt most
things get more than one chance at most, in terms of attention to the
whole playing time), I guess first choice is Robert Wyatt's "Cancion
de Julieta." It's built on, travels on an upright bass riff, which
carefully adjusts itself, then tilts forward, like a rocking horse
that almost gets stuck on a surreal extention of a bent (fifth?) some
blues note or I should say blooooues note, groaning a little,
deliberately distended, before the last note, before the rocking horse
pilgrim tilts back into place. And Wyatt sings the same note, same
phrase, much higher like a little old man with a hole in his head and
the air pushing out and in, which is true of course, like a little old
man in a poem or a play, under the radar o trying to be that way, in
his mask (from Comicopera, and Wyatt explains he means it in the very
old school sense, the other side of tragedy, but useful, a working
piece of uniform), his parody, with the well-timed well-pulled tear in
his blues, giving just enough pause to the listener (and even a
sympathetic listener can stop listening if the music seems too
familiar, like this track never does; I keep listening to hear what
happens next, even though I "basically" or schematically know, but
it's the feeling of the listening experience that matters here, like
it always should). Also, it's not just a mask etc in the defensive
sense, or defensive in the wait for 'em to come at you sense; the
little old rocking horse rider isn't just finding away to keep his
place, he's somehow pushing forward, each repetition of the basic riff
brings some other sounds too, which suggest he's breaking into
something, pushing forward, into wreckage, the hull of a galleon maybe
(kind of an underwater moonlit quality). The bass player is also using
his bow, and overdubbing violins, scrabbling at the push, in the
push.(Wyatt also plays some kind of keyboard, percussion, pocket
trumpet, all in the arc and pull and push of the sway of the note).
"Un mar de sue-eh-eh, no. Un mar de tierra blanca," so not just
aquatic and doesn't just sound aquatic, but like he's entering the
water, rocking back and forth and forward. Sleepwalker? They can do a
lot. Not exactly sure all I'd say about this, but something where
listeners might be led toward making their own connections, if they
want, to any possible deeper waters. It's just the damndest track, is
all, first listen every listen. When you ask for these, you'll mention
the need for the artist to answer a few questions, right? I'm little
insecure about Wyatt doing this, but judging by the amount and variety
and quality of interviews, documentary material etc online, he's
fairly into doing media, or anyway he does it.


didn't happen, pitch failed.

dow, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 21:11 (five days ago) link

Even though it's not that far from some of my ravings that he did publish.

dow, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 21:14 (five days ago) link

what a selfish and clueless reason to bump this thread, words fail me

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 22:25 (five days ago) link

Trying to describe one the most amazing tracks I've ever heard? Meant as a tribute to RW, not myself. should have let the music do the talking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUBFqj6h6zw

dow, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 22:46 (five days ago) link

well i think what you wrote is sweet dow.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2024 00:35 (four days ago) link

fair enough, I'm just cranky, ignore me

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:02 (four days ago) link

no prob, thanks yall. That's all I got in the stash about Wyatt, and any new takes will be shorter, at least.

dow, Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:47 (four days ago) link


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