What Is Rockism ?

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I like how most of the other words there are only used by corny nitwits as well

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to refer in a derogatory manner to someone in University in the late 80s for being to rockist, i.e they use to read only Raw magazine and their music tastes were too rockist.

While I listened to a wider variety of music Talk Talk/Spacemen 3/ Cocteau Twins/ Yello/Colourbox/ The Fall/ Happy Mondays/ My Bloody Valentine/ arkane/ Front 242/ Husker Du/ Mary Margaret O'Hara/ Kate Bush/Detroit techno/ Wire/ Lowlife/That Petrol Emotion/ Throwing Muses/ Sonic Youth/Phillip Boa & the Voodoo Club/ The Young Gods/ The Chameleons/ Blue Nile/ Voivod/ Sisters of Mercy/ Skinny Puppy/New Order/Killing Joke etc

-- DJ Martian, Thursday, 14 December 2000 01:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

you couldn't make it up.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link

you have to read 'slash' out loud

gff, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

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The Reverend, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I enjoy a bit of rockism now and again, I don't take it too seriously of course.

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Rockism was a meaningful word when originally used by people such as Paul Morley back in the 80s, to defend acts that were taking their music just as seriously, only with synths rather than guitars being their main instrument.

When used to defend corporate teenyboppers unable to write their own material, and with outside people deciding their musical style, it is pointless.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

^^^ban

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Think you Morley's ideas arse over tit there, you crazy bastard, Hongro. Still love you loads tho, babe. xxx

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

*Think you got

sorry, I'm hungover

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

A love hangover for Geiry-boy.

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir of the dog

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Geirsy would never let one of these "outside people" decide his musical style.

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Worst and most unlistenable genres/eras ever:
1. 12 tone music (1920-1940)
2. Hip-Hop (1979-present)
3. Funk/disco (late 60s-around 1980)
4. "Contemporary R&B" (Early 90s - present)
5. Bop (1940s)

-- Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 24 April 2003 08:09 (4 years ago)

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Goddamn, Martian stole my record collection in 1989.

NickB, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

holmes is on point re. 12-tone.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

It's no 2-tone, that's fer sure.

NickB, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Is it six times better?

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Worst bands ever:

1 Oasis
2 Kula Shaker
3 Oasis
4 Kula Shaker
5 Oasis
6 Kula Shaker
7 Oasis
8 Kula shaker
9 Oasis
10 Skrewdriver

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I am weary and my brain is malfunctioning and WHY HAS THIS THREAD NOT BEEN HURLED INTO SPACE

Just got offed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

11 Mansun

NickB, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

THEY CAN GO TOO

why does this feel like a Friday

Just got offed, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

12 Oasis

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

13. Tupac

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

14. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah (ask yer dad)

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

15 Tupac Shaker

NickB, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

16 Oasis

max r, Thursday, 27 September 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I hate Pink for her fake "real-ness" but I love Rachel Stevens for her real fakeness. Does this make me a Rockist?

I know, right?, Saturday, 29 September 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

everything's a joke now guys, so just chill ;)

max r, Saturday, 29 September 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

What is Really Real?

Vic Stenger

"Reality Check" in Skeptical Briefs September, 2003

Since I have been writing a column called "Reality Check" for several years now, perhaps it is time for me to say what I think is really real. The best definition I can think of is inspired by a comment made by Samuel Johnson in 1763. As described in Boswell's Life of Johnson,

We stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I shall never forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it, "I refute it thus."

So, I define something as real when it kicks back after you kick it. In simple terms, this describes the processes of everyday observations, but also the most sophisticated scientific experiments. When we look at an object with our naked eyes, light from some source bounces off the object into our eyes. Or, the object itself may emit light. In either case, the object and the light receptors in our eyes recoil from the momentum that is transferred in the process and generates an electrical signal that is analyzed by our brains.

Scientific observations are basically the same. Not only visible light, but the whole electromagnetic spectrum from radio waves to gamma rays are available to joggle reality, along with sensors far more precise than the human eye to detect the jiggles that are returned. What's more, other particles, such as electrons and neutrinos, are also available as probes and computers are utilized to supplement the analytic capability of our brains. In short, science is not some special method of learning about the world. It is an enhancement of the only method by which we humans, in fact, learn about the world--empirical observation. The stuff of reality that kicks back when you kick it is called matter. And, that's all there is.

artdamages, Saturday, 29 September 2007 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I think it's something to do with doric columns.

Dom Passantino, Monday, 31 March 2008 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Rockism is a ham hock in your corn flakes.

Sara Sara Sara, Monday, 31 March 2008 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

how great is it

EdKranepool69, Monday, 26 April 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck off

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

This stupid word.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 26 April 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, PEW, you picked the wrong thread to revive.

Nom Nom Nom Chomsky (WmC), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

so if it's really Wagemann, why is he still posting....

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

He's not anymore. We've had our eyes on him for a few days, he was sort of amusing to observe in a "lol nobody knows I'm me, gree heee heeee" sort of way.

Nom Nom Nom Chomsky (WmC), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link

TERMINATED

If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i knew it was him from the off

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

how great is it

― EdKranepool69, Monday, April 26, 2010 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fuck off

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, April 26, 2010 11:59 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

http://rynosseros.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/pigh-cover.JPG

Norway, that's where I'm a viking! (history mayne), Monday, 26 April 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha!

― EdKranepool69

dispariiiijjjj 'white ppl' (velko), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

As signoffs go, that's not bad.

Nom Nom Nom Chomsky (WmC), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

How is this thread so short???

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Weren't there a ton of rockism threads, though?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

each one a little nativity scene all its own.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 27 April 2010 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link

There were at least three going at one time, all headaches.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

what exactly is rockism?

― sarahel, Friday, June 17, 2011 3:26 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

lol j/k simmons (history mayne), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

rockismo

kkvgz, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 12:55 (twelve years ago) link


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