2008 Primaries Thread

Huckabee is totally the successful version of Bush in that he does actually convince me that he's a likeable, fun guy. I know many likeable, fun guy who would make horrible, horrible presidents.

VERY long thread to wade through, just one question right now. will both obama and clinton court edwards for running mate, would that even give any advantage?

no fucking way

i dunno, i can't imagine either of them really benefiting from an edwards VP spot over other possible choices

Obama/Kucinich '08

Obama/Billups '08

ok thanks!

Clinton/Gravel '08

Obama/Billups '08

endorsed by me ^^^!!!

dick morris predicts obama for dem nominee: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/obama_the_democratic_nominee_yes_he_can

MUST you mention Dick Morris.

a 'CYT' article

Sebilius for Obama's VP, has a nice ring to it.

Why does Morris predict Obama victory in OH and PA? Both of those seem like Hillary country to me.

if there is a problem with the nomination if foresee a long stretch of newspaper headlines that rhyme "obama" with "drama"

Maybe he's betting on momentum? xp

Why does Morris predict Obama victory in OH and PA? Both of those seem like Hillary country to me

yea there is basically no support to any of his claims about those two states. wisconsin, too. as far as i'm concerned clinton still probably has the upper hand in those states.

Obama/Billups '08

This would turn me into a supporter!

http://www.ballpimp.com/images/billups.jpg

USA #1

Sebilius for Obama's VP, has a nice ring to it.

Sebelius has a better ring. She's not the most experienced candidate, but I still think people overrate that stuff, and it will be more important to be reassuring to non-Obama-like voters. If you discount foreign policy, she's the #1 pick.

Clinton/Banks '08

Clinton/Bridges '08

Actually, against every sensible bone in my body, if I saw "Huckabee/Banks" on the ballot I don't know if I would be able to resist voting for them. It would just be too ludicrous.

That photo really would be a perfect image for a new fall sitcom.

i bet obama pulls off WI, or if not, very close

Ohio is a stretch based on what i know about things ... on the other hand you have a huge system of colleges there, including the country's biggest university

i bet obama pulls off WI, or if not, very close

um, yeah, he's the favorite there

I'm inclined to think Ohio will go for Hillary based on how they drive.

xxpost - yea, i'm pretty sure he'll win cleveland, the demographics mostly favor him there. columbus, too. don't know about the rest of the state, though. it's a pretty working-class state for the most part.

i just read something today abt how ohio is prob not such a stretch for obama as people are thinking - i cant remember why - theres a possibility i might be consuming slightly too much media abt all this

Also, would a cabinet posting for 'Sheed be, y'know, Guarensheed?

http://www.emptythebench.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sheed2.jpg

Energy perhaps?

http://obamakucinich08.com/

- Jim

Have we all seen this yet?

Talking to folks who know Bush well say he just doesn't believe Obama's earned it; that he's worthy. He has a lot more respect for Clinton and apparently would be more comfortable seeing her or McCain as his heir than Obama.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

Doesn't surprise me based on his conversation with Chris Wallace yesterday.

he just doesn't believe Obama's earned it

...yet, baby.

i bet obama pulls off WI, or if not, very close

yeah don't worry guys, i'm taking care of it.

um, no-one cares what bush thinks, though

I have a feeling that Hillary waiting for OH and TX is gonna fade like Rudy did waiting for Florida...

I ain't gonna get lazy about it, no sir.

^^^this is the emerging meme of the moment - sure to spread like self-fulfilling prophecy wildfire w/obama sweep tomorrow

is Giuliani giving HRC campaign advice now?

He has a lot more respect for Clinton and apparently would be more comfortable seeing her or McCain as his heir than Obama.

Sentences like that make me want to take on a Keith Olbermann tone of voice. "Mr. Bush, you have not earned the right to have an 'heir.'"

certainly even bush knows how comments like that will play among primary-voing democrats?

after all the net delegate gains obama is set to make in all these upcoming contests, will OH and TX net her enough delegates to make up for it? i guess that's the crucial question -- not just victory, but margin of victory, becomes increasingly important in these contests and you can bet the obama campaign knows it.

Obama & Hillary camps agree to debate, Feb 21 in Austin TX, CNN/Univision

Hillary won't do badly in Ohio, trust. My dad grew up in cleveland and I lived in ohio for 4 yrs in college and got to know a pretty wide spectrum of folks ... columbus will be torn, ohio state leaning obama but most of the burbs etc. are gonna go pretty strictly hillary. Cincinnati and Cleveland are locks for obama. The thing is, central, country-ass ohio is a serious toss-up ... its a combination of southern rural (they are on the northern edge of the bible belt) and midwest post-industrial (i.e. Michigan) and I have a lot of trouble imagining folks voting for a black dude. you go to the wayne county fair and they are still selling confederate flag belt buckles, like dudes seem entirely unaware that ohio was, you know, in the union.

its gonna be close, i could see obama take it but that working class hillary vote is very solid there ... economics hit HARD there, and factories are still being closed down on the regular (the word when I was in school was the departure of the rubbermaid factory, thousands of jobs lost) and it happens across the state. And common sense dictates the economic argument helps hillary

ohio is seriously one of the most fascinating states in the country.

okay, so i'm gonna head down into downtown providence and see the New Obamarama Sweepstakes HQ, i'll let you folks know what it looks like and whether or not there is kool-aid

They sell confederate flag and "Redneck Outfitters" gear at the mall in my hometown, we are south of the Mason-Dixon I guess.. it's pretty depressing. flag gear also popular in West Virginia, definitely a WTF there. I don't really understand what goes on in people's heads that buy that. The economy is about as great out there as it is in Ohio so I expect people will be voting on it, not that there are many Democrats in the area any more.

Michigan native, Ted Nugent:

http://www.glitteratigossip.com/glitterati/images/2007/08/30/015.jpg

chelsea whores-out to 21 y/o super delegate http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4273078&page=1

that is some crazy shit (lolcollege super delegates).