And if we're to the point of saying Flags of Our Fathers is superior to Saving Private Ryan, sorry, disembarking this train
Letters from Iwo Jima & Flags of Our Fathers (you can't split them apart), but again, not a fan of Saving Private Ryan regardless.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 22:14 (eight months ago) link
You can absolutely sever Letters From Iwo Jima from Flags of Our Fathers. The former feels like a movie from a different filmmaker, and it’s immeasurably superior to the latter
― beamish13, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 23:15 (eight months ago) link
dern's performance in JP is all mumbles, chuckles, little asides to herself, thinking out loud, thinking silently, laughter of various kinds (fond, knowing, anxious), remaining half-inside conversations while pulled half-outside by something she's professionally obsessed with, and finally: screaming. imo it does manage to be competitive with the guy who says "hitler's a NUT!"
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 23:19 (eight months ago) link
book actually had the balls to kill Hammond though which the movie didn't.
these are two different characters with the same name: one is a cartoon villain created only to be killed and the other is a tragic self-portrait
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 23:33 (eight months ago) link
xxp respectfully disagree - as mentioned, one of the core ideas of the film is needed to address the power cinema has in re-writing history, something Iwo Jima has been criticized for by its detractors.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 23:35 (eight months ago) link
Hammond in the book is i believe fairly megalomaniacal, rather than the wrongheaded avuncular guy in over his head. i don't disagree btw that Laura Dern is a better actor in JP than the fella with the pipe in ROTLA, especially when it's put like that, but i think the overall execution of the latter film is very gripping in ways that JP is not with use of character. i won't dispute the sheer entertainment value of JP obv.
― omar little, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 23:58 (eight months ago) link
Classic
Amazing how Spielberg has always gotten all the credit for his cinematographer's work— Russ (@Russ__ATX) December 19, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 14:02 (four months ago) link
lol, not that stupid response, this:
on Spielberg's birthday thinking about one of his hardest-ever shots pic.twitter.com/mG7FiZQCB3— Brendan Hodges (@metaplexmovies) December 18, 2023
brb, double checking to make sure I didn't accidentally follow that first poster
― stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 14:35 (four months ago) link
Isn't that a variation on his famous shot in Jaws?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolly_zoom
― clemenza, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 14:45 (four months ago) link
It is, but there's a lot more going on in terms of movement, framing, etc. Especially when the camera pulls back behind the *other* camera.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 14:54 (four months ago) link
I'd never seen "Bridge of Spies" before, but I think I really love Spielberg in this sort of ... I guess almost post-modern mode. The movie has the rhythm and vibe of a classic '40s film - much of it I could imagine Academy aspect ratio and black and white - yet is filled with virtuoso Spielberg shots and modern FX and other more contemporary trademarks. He's been in this mode for a bunch of movies in a row, since "War Horse" more or less, with his weaker recent stuff (The BFG, Ready Player One) the conspicuous exceptions/deviations.
I think I mentioned on the relative thread that I bet Spielberg could have made a compelling version of "Killers of the Flower Moon."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 January 2024 01:45 (three months ago) link