2008 Primaries Thread

morbs that would make sense if i was in fact working for the democratic party or involved in delegate selection or something.

points for cineaste flair, tho: B-

max to be fair i think a lot of weathermen were too

michelle obama on larry king live! tonight... haha, i wonder if michelle will be able to keep the eyes from rolling out her head sharing the camera with that decrepit hack.

speaking as a white student, im actively pursuing an alliance with beer and chicks

is Max's real name Eli Manning?

tracer that is insanity. the sds didn't instigate 68, fucking daley did! they had to get The Party Man (humphrey) on the ticket, and were doing everything they could to maintain control on the democratic party. i am shocked that you are arguing this, brother!

lets make chauncey a superdelegate

co-sign

http://bp2.blogger.com/__XCWUd8FFjQ/R7BMBCqgOlI/AAAAAAAACpk/u2HFsCZfvb0/s1600-h/AxeHillary.jpg

^^^ as if you need another reason to detest AXE BODY SPRAY

Is that a real ad? If so, yeesh.

when did tracer start working for the DLC?

apparently, yes

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As unthrilled as I am w/Hillary as a candidate, it is crap like that that almost makes me want to vote for her.

now i want camp Obama to flip out at unilever or whoever all indignantly, do DARE suggest he wears axe

to dare suggest, i mean.

lol shoulda been a paul button

the idea of hillary all hotly bothered by frat-jock spray-on stink is enough to make my mind just reel away from the inevitable conclusion of that scenario

HILLARY '08: COUGAR'S CHOICE

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/021108DailyUpdateGraph1.gif

Aesthetically pleasing symmetry in that last week.

if she 'wins' the nom over my preferred candidate, not by actually getting out there and getting more voter support, but by either changing agreed-upon rules after the fact, or by leaning on the most back-room and undemocratic mechanism in the whole show, may be enough for me to tell her to fuck herself.

this seems like the biggest danger right now. for a long time i just ignored punditry about the perils of a divided party because it seems like most clinton supporters would back obama and vice versa. but as it goes along and stays close it's hard for supporters of not to develop real antipathy for the other. and the appearance of backroom dealmaking could really piss off a lot of people. the last thing you want is to go into or come out of a convention with a bunch of people accusing each other of shenanigans.

i don't know the best way to avoid that, but it seems like the campaigns should be thinking about it. except that they're probably both too wrapped up in just trying to win the nomination.

"supporters of one" that should say.

Paul Weyrich just endorsed Huckabee.

there are still a lot of unpledged superdelegates. the way it should work is that they stay unpledged until the convention and tip a bigger margin to the popular vote / pledged delegate leader. but the campaigns are working against that scenario by heavily lobbying the SD's for immediate endorsements ...

hey! you guys remember mike gravel? uh... yeah, he's still running. what's he up to, i wonder?

many xposts:

I had a goat named Chauncey.

xp he is chillin'.
I thought he had dropped out due to his health but last week i heard him on the radio (pacifica, and he made them sound realistic; iirc at one point he decried the US having a standing army).

I had a goat named Chauncey.

And then you killed him and ate him. Mean.

Actually, my boyfriend did.

YGS -- from what i understand most of sds saw mccarthy as the democratic party's "pressure valve" to convince the more militant youth that the democratic party was going to bring their concerns on board, i.e. get the protests out of the streets and into the party, thereby coopting the energy of the movement but making sure that energy was mobilized behind a candidate sure to lose

the only thing i'm really arguing is that violence was in fact the aim of a small hard-core group of future weathermen because they thought it would radicalize sympathizers as well as show the rest of the world that they weren't afraid to fight and get hurt -- but i agree absolutely that they didn't plan for anything like what ended up happening and also they they didn't actually instigate shit nearly as much as the cops. maybe i'm making too much of a big deal of this, but i think it is really important to remember that "militancy" wasn't a euphemism then and many student organizers considered violence essential for advancing their cause (and saw the panthers -- perhaps romantically in some cases -- as the real leaders of the revolution they wanted to fight). protesters DID attack cops and not just in self-defense. i didn't think i needed to make clear that wasn't the whole story!

is Max's real name Eli Manning?

If so, THANK YOU, MAX, FOR BEATING THE N.E. PATRIOTS. YOU CAN BOOZE IT UP AND CAVORT WITH WOMEN ALL YOU LIKE. I'll only begin hating you if the NYG repeat next year (but no chance).

i am eli manning

youre all welcome

vote obama

peace out

eli thank you for bringing joy to our nation

via Matt Yglesias, a piece from a 1999 piece on the emerging political independence of Hillary Clinton, including a quote from the woman who was just made her campaign manager:

'The biggest mistake of the American press is thinking they know her,'' says Maggie Williams, Clinton's former chief of staff and one of her closest friends. ''You know, people think she's such a big lib. I think she's extremely conservative. I think she has more in common with people in upstate New York than in New York City, in a lot of ways.'' Williams calls Clinton ''patriotic and practical. She thinks it's important to spend money on social programs, but she wants to know that they work.''

Maybe so. But until she stands on her own politically, none of us can know. Morris says Hillary Clinton recognized long before her husband the effectiveness of a campaign based on bite-size ''values'' issues like school uniforms. She supports the death penalty, as the President does. She supports abortion rights, as he does, but she has not made the issue a priority as First Lady. For all her heated warnings about children, she has been ginger in using her influence to tilt the balance of power in their favor.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A06E0D61531F933A05756C0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

just a reminder to everyone that the progressive-policy child-crusader persona she's playing to the press is a pretty recent invention

You know, people think she's such a big lib.

lol

bullshit^

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0CE7D7103DF936A3575BC0A961958260

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07E0DE163FF937A25751C1A961958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

White House officials said that Hillary Rodham Clinton had been more deeply involved in development of the President's child care proposals than in any issue since the health care debacle of 1993 and 1994.

I think remembering the past may be a part of these "Clinton Rules" I've been hearing about. Remembering the past may also be sexist.

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/tyra1.jpg

<3 <3 <3

"No Videos found for 'huckabee tyra'" :( :(

stop trying to make me forget that Huckabee is Bush pt. 3

That may be the best thing to come out of this primary season. Airs Feb 29th.

That picture is even more amazing than the Gore ghostie pic!

1. blingee that pic
2. put on tshirt
3. profit!

Amazing.

Added Huckabee, "I'm so pumped about being here."

guys i was going to nominate this to be added to santorum.jpg but huckabee-tyra is of a caliber perfect enough to warrant a new generation of crazytits

Start the thread, duder.

haaaa

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holy shit