Ideas for ILX

I opted for images, videos & tweets to load as links years ago. I can easily just load the exact item I want to view without constantly loading/reloading a couple dozen images, gifs, etc. that were part of a conversation from days, months or years earlier. Just seems like a cleaner solution overall.

cleanliness while maintaining density of useful info is imo the one virtue this place has in spades that entire
rest of internet really does not (wikipedia may be only real exception that is not some real specific niche thing)

#onethread

hilarious inside jokes, you forgot to mention

yes much richer and better than any “he’s not wrong you know” (you’re not!)

sorry everyone but

you might say we excel at it

non-joking request to ban Twitter / X embeds. just have it be a url

― budo jeru, Monday, July 31, 2023 3:41 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

pretty sure you can shut that off in preferences

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, July 31, 2023 3:46 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

it's all or nothing, that shuts off images as well

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, July 31, 2023 3:47 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

hi, can we please talk about having a twitter-specific toggle?

Yeah while you’re at it if zing had the option to hide certain threads that would be great

xp would be good if people could c&p the text of the tweet if it's worth reading, Twitter is so shite now I don't want to go and open it up

Yeah, kind of surprised it's still the only embedded social network here, and that so many are still reading and linking from it. I would hit the embeds if it were an option.

the ilx search function seems to exclude some list of certain common words. I've had this realization a number of times, but for a concrete example, I just went to search for threads about the band Was (Not Was) and received no results. But when I did a site-specific search on google - "Was (Not Was)" site:ilxor.com - there were a few threads. Is there anyway to circumvent this problem and just search for the exact search string that I enter?

you can put quotes in the ilx search box but make sure your computer is using real quotes and not “smart quotes” that break it

Interesting! I'll give that a shot.

would like it it a lot if “x” links were to embed like twitter ones do…

counterpoint: would dislike it a lot

would like if twitter links couldnt be posted at all tbh

Co-sign.

counterpoint: would dislike it a lot

― vashti funyuns (sic), Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:37 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

what’s the downside? for those of us with images off it saves having to click through to the site/app. I don’t think people are just going to stop posting links to twitter all of the sudden

the links are already useless, because Twitter only lets you see the tweet itself and not any of the replies or part 2's, unless you're logged in. and if i never had a Twitter account before I'm certainly not signing up now. so ILX might as well just display that tweet as quoted text with the account name in bold or something, imo.

that’s basically what the embeds are like with images off!

Also: if the original tweet is deleted or edited, we have a copy of it at the time it was posted here - which is useful in all sorts of ways. This is the only reason I keep it around tbh: The rate things are going, tweets here will outlast X the service itself.

fair point!

also, counting the days til Musk discovers this and decides this means ILX is "scraping the data" or some other such BS

it’s the same thing a zillion news sites use and draws traffic to the site. he will inevitably try to pull money from that eventually and further hasten the death spiral

The rate things are going, tweets here will outlast X the service itself. so you say there's a chance do you

Not sure why people feel it's ok to post links to articles which are behind paywalls, it's 100 times more annoying than embedded tweets imo.

Most paywalled articles can be viewed for free by putting the URL into archive.ph, people should post those instead imo.

Yeah, or just c&p the relevant section or w/e - if you want people to read something it's just a basic consideration.

Alternately, install the Bypass Paywalls Clean extension for Firefox https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean

it shouldn't be up to the people reading it to go to this sort of bother. I mostly read ilx via the android app anyway, so wouldn't work for me.

it's 100 times more annoying than embedded tweets imo.

― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 November 2023 bookmarkflaglink

Well, that's not the feedback I've been getting.

Nah it’s good, just post “paywalled” and i know to hit archive from the git

just type bleepborp and I know to filter the gaff into the meowbox

I like to pay for words. Both because I think that is a good thing to do (word-writing is work that should be compensated), and because I am a word-writer myself (who likes to feed his family).

But I also like to give words away, because I think that is a good thing to do. So if anyone wants a gift link to anything on WaPo, NYT, the Atlantic, or the New Yorker (and I think NYMag as well), hit me up.

I've been dying for years for a way to unfollow a thread I accidentally clicked into. I use the unfilled dot as an easy way to see what threads have unread posts, but I don't want to bookmark them because I also don't like having a long list of them at the top of the page.

Delete ILX 👍

Load 100 previous messages option. I noticed that the Saturday Night Live thread had got loads of new posts, but missed the initial posts which revived it, so had to open all 9000+ posts to see what kicked off the discussion.

That's a good idea.

I've been dying for years for a way to unfollow a thread I accidentally clicked into. I use the unfilled dot as an easy way to see what threads have unread posts, but I don't want to bookmark them because I also don't like having a long list of them at the top of the page.

this would be really useful. even better a killfile but for threads

Load 100 previous messages option. I noticed that the Saturday Night Live thread had got loads of new posts, but missed the initial posts which revived it, so had to open all 9000+ posts to see what kicked off the discussion.

This kind of already exists. If you click a post you can increment the URL to get earlier posts.

Step 1: Click the "link" tag at the end of a post.
Step 2: the URL of this new page will contain something in the middle that says "bookmarkedmessageid=8701535" (but the number will be different.)
Step 3: Decrease that number a little bit and you get the thread loaded from an earlier point. Usually 1000 or is a good number (so in this case you would change the number to 8700535).

What I would love for ILX (and I know this has been mentioned before) would be on the Search Page if you could order results by "Most Recently Updated", not just Most Relevant, Newest, or Oldest. That way if there's multiple threads on Godzilla or whatever you can find the one that people have been using recently.

yes! Newest AND most relevant.

there's already a kilfile for threads:

https://github.com/acdean/kilxor/blob/master/snatk.user.js

todo, check it still works

It doesn’t work if you use zing or the android app. Stet said he was working on a hide thread feature for zing for a future update.

Yellowkid, thanks! I will use that...

Following on from the opton to load X amount of previous messages, how about an option to just to the first message in the last 24 hours?

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can someone remind me what the trick is for searching a particular phrase? I searched “son of saul” (in quotes, looking for discussion about the film fwiw), and the results are basically any post with any of those words in them

I just did a search that looked like this:

https://i.imgur.com/rHKDYFa.png

Many different posts and threads came up, but they all contained those words — Son of Saul — in consecutive order.

k3vin, you have smart quotes in your post and probably in your query. you probably want to disable that on whatever device you're using

(smart quotes are the goofy thing that replace the double vertical ticks with curved ones on either side of what your computer things is a quote)

To illustrate the difference...

Dumb quotes are straight, meaning that open/closing marks are exactly the same: ", '
Smart quote open marks are different from closing marks: “”, ‘’