Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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"the 70 billion people of earth — where are they hiding?"

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is that the only time spock is ever musical? i like that his companon in the jam is playing a bicycle wheel

"eat all the fruit and throw away the rind!"

he plays his lute thingy in charlie x

mark s, you might not have made it in Plato's Stepchildren to Spock singing "Bitter Dregs", but it is something else.

Ha, I almost forgot the title of that, thanks for the reminder!

seem to recall that the title is sung at the bottom of his range, or very close to it.

i did remember that i just didn't consider it "musical" 😜

"art is the population's chief occupation"

that's a big yikes from me

art is the population's chief occupation: millinery dept

https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/default/yp_5183779916ae48.43215162/Star-Trek-The-Original-Series--The-Cloud-Minders-Cloud-Guard-Hat-3.jpg

"complete separation of toil and leisure has given ardana this perfectly valid social system!"

the one where lincoln gets speared in the back by genghis khan bcz a being made of molten rock wants to know if good is better than evil feels like a story we've been served more than once tbh

Yes. It’s kind of a bottom of the drawer go-to.

Giant Lincoln Memorial in space is kind of fun though.

help me, Spock!

Love that episode. I guess I'm just down with full ST cheese.

help me, Spock!

s3 e23: all our yesterdays (i have seen this one several times down the years)

i like how cryptically unhelpful the librarian is and also the very terrible accents kirk encounters in musketeer-world

s3 e24: turnabout intruder

the fact that the transporter room has no set-up for ppl lying down seems strangely optimistic given, well, things that happen all the time

shatner's performance in this as a somewhat deranged woman who was in love with kirk in space college is very funny, tho not entirely in a good way

tonally the mode can be summarised as "silence! the chatter of inferior weaklings wearies me!"

as a leader i am an insane barely competent childish despot bcz i of how much i hate my womanhood

lol that this other guy is somehow in love with her

and that's it: nbc cancelled it after 79 eps, all of which i have now watched

Live long and prosper

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Third season is patchy to say the least.

Roddenberry and some other key players went missing iirc.

DS9 next.

(ds9 season 1 has just finished on Freeview. far too many ferengi episodes)

https://imgur.io/gallery/mACDrFe

Star Trek thread or cursed images thread? hard to decide

Why Captain, you're beautiful...

I forgot how ridiculous Seven of Nine's catsuits were on Voyager.

Apparently, they were so hard to breathe in that she passed out several times.

Jeri Ryan clarified that the catsuits weren't difficult to work in, but the Borg costume that cut off blood flow at her neck.

Thats the first time Ive heard that correction, I too thought it was the corset in her outfit!

I had watched "the Cage" recently, to get the full Pike backstory, then I watched the Menagerie 1&2 not realising its just basically the pilot, rekajiggered with a framing device round it. Never realised!

“It was so tight originally that I passed out four times,” Ryan told USA Today in 1997. “They would bring nurses to the set with oxygen, and I wouldn’t say anything. But after the fourth time passing out, I spoke up.”

https://www.thegeektwins.com/2014/11/5-horrifying-facts-about-seven-of-nines.html

Y'know, I can't find verification of that! Guess I should know better than to accept random reddit posts without checking on them first.

At any rate, the outfits were ridiculously tight.

That same geektwins article does say she passed out twice from the borg outfit pressing on her neck.

jeri’s catsuits were insane. the matetrial too, all those various types of shiny lycra & idk stretch velvet at some point… crazy

the silver one was the most egregious imo

Fake boobs, too

When “permission to speak freely” is requested, a “with all due respect” will surely soon folllw

Just noticed that complete Voyager and complete DS9 are on sale in the Apple TV store for $40 each. I never did see all of DS9, is this where I start?

Complete TNG is $50 and if anyone dares... Enterprise is $30

Ah shame no sale in the UK.

I’ve been very slowly watching DS9 for the first time. On season 3 now. No spoilers: it’s great. The stories themselves are of variable quality, but the crew (to my surprise) are just as much fun to hang out with as on TNG and TOS (and SNW!) and if anything the ensemble acting is better - fewer weak links like Troi and Wesley. Quark, the Ferengi, seems to be disliked but I like the actor and his stories have been pretty good!

I keep hearing how great it is, but struggle to get through S1

I didn't mind the first season, but it definitely gets better as it goes along. I skipped some in the first and second seasons. By season three it's still pretty cheesy, but it's totally hitting my "comfort food" baseline, so ultimately I don't mind whether it's a good episode or a bad episode. Ron Moore joins in the writing team in Season 3, characterisations are a bit sharper, and the story resolutions less predictable.

and bashir becomes less annoying

I remember another ilxor linking to a DS9 watch guide if you want to skip the standalone episodes and focus on the grand arc -- I can't be bothered to find it now but I'm pretty sure you can find others online.

Also I'd be hesitant to buy digital media ATM -- you're betting on the streaming service continuing to make it available, and given current trends, that's not a sure bet.

(FWIW, I don’t stream - I buy and download. Have plenty of disc space)