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I too would like a spare bsky invite if anyone has

Roz, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 13:31 (ten months ago) link

Don't forget, at one point gmail was invite-only, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 13:35 (ten months ago) link

Now would be a particularly good time to roll out to the public, when your main competitor is flailing. Of course if Zuckerberg can get his service rolling faster then it’s probably moot

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 13:43 (ten months ago) link

facebooks track record on imitating other social apps is not great

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 13:47 (ten months ago) link

We had to stop sign-ups to resolve the tech issues caused by all the people signing up because of Twitter's tech issues

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 13:53 (ten months ago) link

we should've stuck with Ello

nashwan, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:01 (ten months ago) link

I will certainly switch to Bluesky if enough of the people I follow migrate over there, but at this point "I'm done with Twitter. Meet me over on Blue Sky," is like "Look me up next time you're on the west coast."

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:07 (ten months ago) link

I've been on Bluesky 3 days now; it definitely needs more work but the vibes are ok. I'm sure that will be a fleeting thing though as more conservatives log on and whine about how they're being silenced. It always works for them.

Chris L, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:15 (ten months ago) link

its pretty funny already the early adopters whining trying to protect their weird lil culture

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 14:23 (ten months ago) link

the urgent thing abt social media is that ppl shd do things i like and not do things i dont

mark s, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 15:11 (ten months ago) link

thats the thing that really brings the needed frisson to a platform

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 15:16 (ten months ago) link

I said this already, sorry, but I'd love a Bluesky invite if someone has one to spare. I signed up to be notified of when I can join, like, a month or two ago and have heard nothing.

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 17:59 (ten months ago) link

i dont have any invites btw i had one but i gave it to an irl friend

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:01 (ten months ago) link

one would think theyll open it up eventually but i have no idea what their staffing/funding sitch is like

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:02 (ten months ago) link

Not being able to open sign-ups at a time when the competition is flailing is the definition of missing the moment. Luckily for them Twitter is sure to keep getting worse.

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link

its true this would be a nice time to open it up

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:13 (ten months ago) link

maybe they have some grow slowly plan tho could be wise idk

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:14 (ten months ago) link

just read that new threads are now limited to 25 posts!?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:22 (ten months ago) link

I'm sure they'll open eventually, I would just like to lock down the same username I use everywhere else.

I guess if I miss out, I will survive. :)

As I move thru my 40s and am now closer to 50 than 39, I increasingly feel like maybe ditching all social media is the way. Easy to say, I know...

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link

twitters been the only one i use for years now, and who knows if itll last or there will be a compelling replacement, might be the end of the social media erz

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:39 (ten months ago) link

maybe they have some grow slowly plan tho could be wise idk

I just figured it’s deliberate in order to create an air of exclusivity, just like Facebook started out being restricted to Harvard students and gradually expanded to other prestigious schools before conquering the world. Seems smart.

o. nate, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 18:59 (ten months ago) link

that could be part of it but theres def a tech aspect too, building a twitter is difficult and expensive for reasons of scale, unless youre facebook then its prob easy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link

agreed the timing is definitely right but there's a new Twitter debacle every few weeks, I assume the timing is always gonna be right

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:09 (ten months ago) link

unless someone else becomes the new twitter

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link

fwiw even if there is a new twitter i dont think itll ever be nearly as big, more of a niche app for journalists degenerate posters and various other specialists, the celebs and casuals have prob mostly moved on

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:12 (ten months ago) link

I just had a moment on Bluesky that reminded me of my early, non-cynical social media experience. Ned (of course Ned is involved) reposted a post from a woman who wrote a column that I obsessively read a teenager (“Ask Leah” on IGN) that I hadn’t thought about in 20 years. Cool beans. I know it’ll change, because it always does, but I’m really enjoying Bluesky (and I write that as someone who’s been _addicted_ to Twitter since the beginning and Mastodon for the past few years). Maybe social media isn’t entirely bad?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:30 (ten months ago) link

Yeah I can’t vibe with this, doesn’t Jack run it? The same dipshit who let Nazis run rampant and rolled his ownership share over to Musk?

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link

apparently jack isnt that involved in it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:39 (ten months ago) link

He’s on the board. He’s also a longtime advocate for the underlying architecture (e.g., he advocated for a similar architecture back when he was an engineer at Twitter).

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 19:45 (ten months ago) link

I mean, holding out for a social media platform that both works well and is not run by people who are at some level craven assholes is probably asking too much. Even if you find one, if it's successful it will still end up getting bought by craven assholes. But I'm not in a hurry to try to figure out what "the one" will be — not that I'd turn down a Bluesky invite, but Twitter and Facebook only got interesting to me once there was a mass of people there.

Mastodon?

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:09 (ten months ago) link

I'm just waiting to see which is the one everyone is going to, seems like Bluesky at the moment, prob just gonna wait until everyone else is on it

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:11 (ten months ago) link

of course Ned is involved

Just stalking your soul, it's what I do. (Got to know Leah when she went to grad school at UCI; my own stint had ended and I had shifted to library work by then.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:12 (ten months ago) link

I mean, holding out for a social media platform that both works well and is not run by people who are at some level craven assholes is probably asking too much. Even if you find one, if it's successful it will still end up getting bought by craven assholes. But I'm not in a hurry to try to figure out what "the one" will be — not that I'd turn down a Bluesky invite, but Twitter and Facebook only got interesting to me once there was a mass of people there.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:08 (fourteen minutes ago) link

There’re better ways and we’ve done it before (e.g., DNS, e-mail, WWW, etc.).

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:26 (ten months ago) link

some kind of better version of Google reader would be ideal, if we are talking imaginary social media

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 July 2023 20:32 (ten months ago) link

There’re better ways and we’ve done it before (e.g., DNS, e-mail, WWW, etc.).

Those are open protocols not services. No one owns them per se. It's easy to create a service that hosts data that conforms to the protocol. Mastodon is the closest to this model. Is Blue Sky attempting this in any way?

octobeard, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:08 (ten months ago) link

Twitter seems to have opened up again? I was able to see a tweet linked in Reddit again today

octobeard, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 22:09 (ten months ago) link

Threads is coming to life p. fast. It has search (unlike Mastodon) and loadsa posts (unlike Bluesky). Home timeline is weird though; it shows me whatever it wants, not just who I’m following.

stet, Wednesday, 5 July 2023 23:23 (ten months ago) link

lets see what they come up with, my guess its gonna be bad in some begging ass facebook way, like too aimed at "monetization for creators" or something

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 5, 2023 8:00 AM (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Opened the Threads app and it’s completely (completely!) engagement farming posts and Brands. This is not a place of honor

— timmy 💀 jackpots (@crulge) July 6, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:35 (nine months ago) link

what if ticktok but twitter is the perfect facebook bad idea

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0UFc0VX0AIW77r?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:40 (nine months ago) link

I'd rather go back to a blog with a curated follow-my-friends-blogs reading list which is what Livejournal was tbh. Something that simple. Why no can has.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:42 (nine months ago) link

So basically the “For You” tab

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:42 (nine months ago) link

Xpost ok ew, Threads sounds gross already.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:43 (nine months ago) link

seems like they pre registered all the brands too just what everyone wants

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:44 (nine months ago) link

all your favorite guys are there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0T2VgMaUAA1fij?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:46 (nine months ago) link

Who will be banned first?

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:48 (nine months ago) link

and they cant even build a website how many guys do they have at facebook no one knows how to make a site

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 00:55 (nine months ago) link

Facebook's enduring inability to do design and user interfaces well is really a huge mystery to me as a non-tech guy. Surely they can hire as many good designers as they want? But everything always feels a little generic and Walmarty. (It was also why I was sure the Metaverse would be terrible, because how could it not be?)

Generic and Walmarty is the goal, they've got to optimize for people seeing shitty ads right up to the point where even boomers abandon it.

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 6 July 2023 01:01 (nine months ago) link

conversation has really become a weasel word, sad state of affairs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0UHLkdWwAAWOYe?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Thursday, 6 July 2023 01:05 (nine months ago) link


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