The _Avatar_ sequel, presumably also directed by James Cameron

parts of it looked great on the big screen, i can vouch for that, but i can barely remember anything about the plot, and most of what i do remember was really annoying.

i made it through 30 minutes of this before i bailed

cannot imagine sitting through 3+ hours of that

I lasted about 15 before I was actually angry with myself for having even tried.

veg you missed Brendan Cowell getting his arm sliced off by an alium whale and sproing-spiralling off of a boat snapped in half by a giant cable while his arm wheeeee-spiralled in a different direction

as good as that sounds, i still wouldn’t sit through it for that

i felt like i was watching the 29th bratz doll vhs or some other knockoff toy series like this endless exposition worldbuilding is just absolute gibberish to me, a grumpy elderly woman who enjoys Movies and Cinema that YOU sir James Cameron USED TO MAKE ugh idk why it irritates me so much but omg i could not have hated it more

plus they all look like deer

That a film more than 3 hours long just inelegantly and unclearly infodumps for its first 20 minutes is hard to forgive.

I'll never watch this on purpose, but I'm sure I'll eventually see the entire thing, bit by bit, spread across dozens of walks by bright TV displays in big box stores. Who needs movie theaters when I have Costco visits?

it seems kind of pointless to see this movie on anything other than IMAX 3D? (I haven't seen this movie)

you all are wrong this movie ruled

Otm

otm = out of your mind

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As someone who did see it in 3D on an IMAX screen — and largely enjoyed it — I can't fathom watching it in 2D on TV, much less on a smaller screen. It would be like watching a YouTube of a rollercoaster ride.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

Only in the future four+ hour extended version.

I do appreciate that James Cameron spent years and years making movies on the water, in the water, under the water, diving, floating, sinking, researching and developing state of the art FX, until he was finally able to create computer rendered water so realistic it is indistinguishable from the real thing ... and then populated the movie with 10-foot tall blue people.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

No but neither do rollercoaster rides.

There is a whole subset of youtube videos dedicated to roller coasters, they're kind of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViSVOWv3Pp8

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

Is the new one available on Max the newest one?

endless exposition worldbuilding is just absolute gibberish to me, a grumpy elderly woman who enjoys Movies and Cinema that YOU sir James Cameron USED TO MAKE ugh idk why it irritates me so much but omg i could not have hated it more

shit absolutely fucks once they stop talking and start swimming and fighting, you'd love the final action scene

(saw it in liemax 3D and liked it enough I went again in local 3D, had not seen the first one until the reissue in November or whenever)

final action scene

which goes for about an hour forty if you want to skip ahead

you have mistaken me for someone else if you think i’m going to at some point “continue watching” and/or “finish the movie” or even “skip to the good parts”

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Lol at "liemax". We also only have one authentic IMAX here locally and I made sure to see it there and not the pathetic fake IMAXes

For future installments, Cameron will build a series of 100 GIMAX theaters — 32 stories tall, a city block wide — equipped with fully mobile seats that will rise, fall, and swoop through the air. It will raise the cost of the next film to $12 billion, everyone will make fun of him, and then he will gross $25 billion.

isn't that basically just the avatar ride in disney world?

Pretty much! Which is awesome fwiw.

For all its prettiness, a sad lack of imagination on display in this. The new Na'avi are just wet Maori stereotypes, and having them all talking English just lays bare how they're completely mundanely human in emotions and thought. The animals are all familiar aquatic animals with bits from other familiar species bolted on. They don't come up with anything really alien at all.

There is a very clear reason for that tbh

It’s an open polemic, not The Mote In God’s Eye

You can still make polemics interesting and not racist.

I watched this but shouldn’t have because I hated the first one. I hated this more - intensely, loudly witless and boring, and unforgivably devoid of imagination.

i thought the water/whale scenes in this were just brimming with wonder and beauty lol

prob my favorite “second act where all the narrative momentum disappears for whatever reason, usually bc of the temporary evasion of the bad guy” in a james cameron film

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Sunday, June 11, 2023 11:44 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is urgent and key for these films.

yeah are people watching this sober??

I tried watching this sober today. Lasted about 20 minutes. Nope. Gotta be in the mood for endless CGI “wonder”.

avatar ii is a non-racist movie imo

watched it sober on a big screen and loved it

big screen = imax 3d

Well-meaning but lazy cultural appropriation is still racist, just not Nazi racist.

naw

James’ sentence is true, and I’m not equipped to judge how the scales tip between lazy and well-meaning in this instance — but Cameron’s clearly foregrounding the references, and cast Cliff Curtis as the head wet guy.

Cameron is totally going to follow up "Avatar 5" with "Titanic 2," about the search for the sub in search of "Titanic." He's got the CG water FX down, the next few years will be spent working on the script.

in the same film

Avatar 5: Titanic 2

Sigourney Weaver has been attached to play the sub via motion capture.