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No I meant hsb - I think I am right... Doing it in rgb doesn't quite work e.g you can't make red (255-0-0) darker by any easy multiplication of the rgb numbers I think, but you can convert to hsb, reduce the 'b' and then put it back to rgb.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry meant lighter not darker. Not easy this on an iPhone.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah okay Jay. Makes sense.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

If the colors are CSS instead of hardcoded, you get the darkening for free -- just make them <A class="greenlink" or the like, and in the stylesheet specify a:link to be whatever actual color value you want. If there's no a:visited style, you'll get the browser default, but if you want to make it a darker green or w/e, then the stylesheet can do that.

stet, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't for the life of me think how a stylesheet could work here but I guess I'll be seeing you shortly so I suppose we can talk it over!

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, yup, lighter is harder. how would you convert to hsb tho? (btw i think of it as hsv, hence my confusion).

ledge, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I know that it's not need-to-know for me at this point, but I don't understand what's unavoidable about having an inline style that colors the links on just that one page. But there's a lot I don't know here, and I can happily file this under "known unknowns."

reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

If I could type faster on this thing I would explain my logic! When I'm back at my desk!

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

it's 'cause of users picking their own colours for site new answers, ain't it? that kind of overrides and sits outside any stylesheet coding.

ledge, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

unless you want to hack every stylesheet with a class for every possible colour (and visited, etc, variations thereon).

ledge, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

users can pick their own colors for... what? They can?

reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

That's it. I think Stet's point is that you could abstract it e.g. the class is 'death' which is defined to be black and you could also hardwire a visited class but this would all seem impractical to me... Black doesn't mean death to Chinese people, for example. My finger hurts.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

it does to me

ken "save-a-finn" c (ken c), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

sure, blame it on the chinese

max, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Lol kenan.

Ledge rgb to hsv is a little complicated. Google it. There's an algorithm on wikipedia I think.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

So you can pick your own colors for links on the new answers page (which remains future news to me, I don't see any such option), AND you can pick your own stylesheet, which conflicts with the colors the users may have picked... goddamn, man. You're going to give yourself a brain hemorrhage over this. Just DO NOT DO one of those things. Why would you need to do both?

reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

It's been that way for about two years! Click on the site new answers heading.

Keith, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

colour picker is linked from prefs page.

ledge, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link

it's 'cause of users picking their own colours for site new answers, ain't it? that kind of overrides and sits outside any stylesheet coding.

Well, even if you don't pick your own colors for Site New Answers, you're still stuck with the default color (black). Basically, as it stands, you can't use SNA without overriding stylesheet colors for thread titles.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes you can. The problem arises when you start hiding sub-boards, or at least this is the way old.css behaves; I can't speak for the other stylesheets.

pon de floor (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

> how would you convert to hsb tho?

java's Color class has a method. (the actual maths is a fiddle, usually a case statement which splits it up into 60 degree segments and treats them differently. http://actionsnippet.com/?p=797 )

koogs, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes you can. The problem arises when you start hiding sub-boards, or at least this is the way old.css behaves; I can't speak for the other stylesheets.

Maybe I don't understand what you're talking about. I just changed my stylesheet to "old.css," I selected show "all" boards in the Site New Answers settings, and I set the color for all of the boards to be the default, black. Site New Answers still shows thread titles as black, rather than the blue/purple of old.css.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Does it do this if you click the "Restore Defaults" button as opposed to manually setting the values?

pon de floor (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

A-ha! No, it doesn't. I forgot about "Restore Defaults." Yeah, that works fine then, even with blueski.css. So the problem only develops if you set preferences for Site New Answers.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Correct.

pon de floor (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

(which is why I never changed the preferences for SNA)

pon de floor (HI DERE), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I just figured there were some boards that I wouldn't want to be shown, since I never read them, but I'm looking at the default SNA page right now, and it appears no one else reads them either lol.

jaymc, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link

How come the boards on the "Boards" page and the "I Want to Change the Boards Shown on Site New Answers..." in a different order? Not important at all, just noticed.

StanM, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 13:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"I Want ... " is ordered alphabetically. The boards page has ILM and ILE at the top, then it's broadly alphabetical except for some new ones, TMI is up and the top and People/Vinyl/Photography are at the bottom. I think it could be tweaked.

ledge, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, it's because I have some functionality that allows you to define the order of boards and create folder and put things in on the front page, that's basically never been used.

I've just moved the newer boards into alphabetical order. The other one is just in alphabetical order as it's sorted before being displayed.

Jay, I tried to do the link visited thing for colours - I had hoped to set a visited link to a darker colour, based on whatever colour you had selected for that thread, but it seems as though it's impossible to set the 'visited' status of a link, on a link-by-link basis, which makes this very tricky.

Nonetheless, I have added a 'not set' option in the colours, which all will be set to if you 'restore defaults', when I next upload the software (I'll do that shortly).

Keith, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

thx!

StanM, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, so another thing I've been thinking about is the integration of rss feeds in search results. I'm a total cpu noob so I have no idea of the feasibility of this, but it'd be nice to be able to subscribe to rss feeds of search words or individual posters.

Gigolo Grasiento (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Baaderonixx, it's something I'd like to do, but it is really quite tricky to do without making a site come to a standstill... To be useful, you have to customise for each user (in the way you mention), which makes it very hard to keep data in memory (needed to make the site run quickly and smoothly), and in addition to this, you have RSS readers that automatically hit the server every 30 seconds checking for updates!

As I say, I'd like to do it in some fashion - it's pretty easy technically, but pretty hard to ensure the site continues to work well.

I know other sites have it, but then sites like Slashdot have something like eighty servers; whereas, ILX has one.

Keith, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

hey keith i don't think i have many but can u tell me how many sb's i ahve?

mark cl, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

just curious

mark cl, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Sure, you have one.

Keith, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Necessity of dumping the mob-rule-enabling Suggest Ban being discussed here:

Missin U <3 - lamentations for those felled by the SB

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, Morbs, especially this post.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah. I like Matt, but that's BS.

Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

remove suggest ban

51 is the loneliest number (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

whoa what just happened

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

So I made the change - if you restore defaults on the customise site new answers page, you'll get normal un-styled links back.

Keith, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

mods vs mobs vs morbs

unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"View in Alphabetical Order". Lol.

ledge, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Tho it might make me angry seeing it there all the time. Why?! WHHHYYYY?!

ledge, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

where is titles-in-rot13 option?

stet, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i don't see the point of it

unban dictionary (blueski), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link

in case you only like threads that begin with a certain letter???

i like the bullet-changing thing a lot btw

blobfish russian (harbl), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

TBH it was more an experiment to see if I could find more space for options. Happy to go with the majority on the alphabetical order thing, but I'll leave it for now - can always change it in a couple of days' time.

Keith, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

order by number of suggest bans generated

ken "save-a-finn" c (ken c), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link


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