2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

ugh i'm sorry!

jeezus

kill him!

well here, a couple of McCain/Palin cars got keyed... weirdly distributed yin and yang.

still, hoos, that sucks. :(

Yup. :-/

Meantime, work from Alaska re: Branchflower:

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548955.html

Funniest part:

Meg Stapleton, a local spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, said Todd Palin is answering Branchflower's questions but isn't hopeful of a fair outcome.

"Todd certainly wants to make sure that everyone knows he has nothing to hide," she said. "But Todd and the governor both feel the outcome was predetermined and prejudged back when the governor was named a vice presidential candidate."

(Note that the investigation had long been underway before that point and Palin'd already had to backtrack a couple of times before then.)

kill him!

― ♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:41 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

terrorist!

Hand's posts upthread about Obama's putative appointments of good people, and his history of caring for the less fortunate, are moving!

I wanted to ask a question. It is widely said that in 2000 and 2004 thre were voting irregularities that may have favoured the GOP. It is sometimes said that they 'stole' one or other election, whether in FL in 2000 or OH in 2004, or more. Thus, it's not just a matter of how people choose to vote, but also about how much electoral fraud and manipulation takes place. (Possibly the Democrats do this too, I don't know; they supposedly did in 1960 anyway.)

If this is the case, then doesn't it improve the GOP's chances whatever the polls say?

Lawyers for Obama (a million pro bono volunteers) have been doing some impressive work in this area to make sure nobody gets disenfranchised and it's pretty clear they're not going to differentiate between Dems and Reps if someone's being messed with at a polling place. GOP tend to try to use FUD tactics around voter qualification in the weeks before to depress morale and (they hope) opposition turnout.

THIS TIME (they really mean it this time), the Obama organization at a local level is very well organized. If you watch Fox News you'll hear all sorts of muck-raking about Democratic voter fraud by them this time round (e.g. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvb0LfZQ5mY-X8PYSvYxTe3QGgdgD93LVDS80). I am not qualified to judge these on their merits, but you don't see them much in the mainstream media.

HOO BOY: Sarah Palin and the Spiritual Warfare Network

These people are CRAZY. It's a link to a Kos diary but it's A+++ in research and execution.

Fox is all over ACORN right now - showing investigations going on in all the main swing states.

This is getting a lot of play. What's touching is the belief in a future that promises more leaps off cliffs.

Can we get a correlation between swing states and the states where law enforcement is controlled by GOP elected officials or appointees?

xpost, so the imaginary writer of that email in ALS's post wants a kind of c.1950s italian christian democratic party led by Boss Hogg?

Pinefox, if voting irregularities won the election for the GOP in 2000 and 2004, it was only because the contest was so close. The polls now are predicting a more decisive victory for Obama than either of Bush's wins.

hahaha i love the corner. (hello, an argument in the Constitution)

Reporters are going to beat a path to her door in Alaska She is the future of the Republican Party and at 48 or so in 4 years, will be the conservative change we need which will emphasize conservative principles along with the ideal that power obtained by compromising your principles is not power worth obtaining. Her responsibility argument at the debate scored the highest among the dials of independent voters. To say, go ahead and pursue happiness (hello, an argument in the Constitution), but I will protect your rewards and keep both Government and Business from screwing you will be an absolutely winning argument. This is the sense I get from her. I wrote Kathleen Parker and said I thought she was way to quick to jump the gun for Gov. Palin to exit the campaign.My point was, we, as normal Americans, want somebody who understands us, has good instincts and can learn from his or her mistakes and get better. I think Gov. Palin fits this bill. In all honesty, I think Gov. Romney (with Gov. Palin’s instincts) and Gov. Jindall also have this ability and I am encouraged that the future of the Republican party is in great hands. for her response to all of his policies and she is going to shine more and more.

so the imaginary writer of that email in ALS's post wants a kind of c.1950s italian christian democratic party led by Boss Hogg?

Anything to keep 'em happy.

The embrace of vacuity on the part of Palin supporters like that amuses me a lot. Hey, they want it, they got it.

Can we get a correlation between swing states and the states where law enforcement is controlled by GOP elected officials or appointees?

― Christopher Blix Hammer (Ed), Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:41 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

What?

Meanwhile Hannity gets his ass handed to him:

In how many of the jurisdictions where ACORN is being investigated are the plod elected as or appointed by the GOP?

Ungh.

lol Colmes. Might as well replace him with a cardboard cutout. Cheaper for everyone.

god, fuck hannity

Wow, look at the poll.
McCain landslide!

The Fox News text vote was less of a landslide after the last debate. They're running scared.

Ed, I would imagine there is some correlation between 'voter challenge' initiatives and districts where the public service is under GOP administration. Also the story is only being chased on Fox; nobody else is biting.

The ACORN stuff is completely fucked up. It's just straight-up illegal mafia behavior from the local authorities. But what can they do? It's the GOVERNMENT who has stolen their property! I honestly didn't believe stuff that brazen could happen these days. ACORN, as anyone who knows anything about it will tell you, is an organization run on love and sweat. The totally crazy thing is that they tried to bring something like 40 cases of voter fraud to the attention of the local authorities MANY times over the last few months and received basically no reaction. Now they're being raided?

mccain is screwed

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:44 PM (7 months ago)

chopped even

But don't discount the Daddy Yankee surprise this month.

In other news, TedStevensGate: FBI tapings made public in trial

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008238740_stevens08.html

I wanted to ask a question. It is widely said that in 2000 and 2004 thre were voting irregularities that may have favoured the GOP. It is sometimes said that they 'stole' one or other election, whether in FL in 2000 or OH in 2004, or more. Thus, it's not just a matter of how people choose to vote, but also about how much electoral fraud and manipulation takes place. (Possibly the Democrats do this too, I don't know; they supposedly did in 1960 anyway.)

If this is the case, then doesn't it improve the GOP's chances whatever the polls say?

the 2000 voting irregularities are well-documented, and the election count that gave Bush the election was the product of RONG, but nevertheless transparent, legal processes that resulted from the legal actions of the parties. 2004 voting irregularities are much more obscure and while it's entirely possible that there were activities that resulted in the election being stolen, the result is widely acknowledged to be legitimate. to the extent that the investigation into such irregularities was limited and not paid attention to by the media and public, that is in significant part the result of the correspondence between incumbent Bush's performance in the vote and his performance in most of the polls preceding the election (as well as a reasonable explanation for the lack of correspondence between his performance in the vote and in the exit polling), as well as, to some extent, the response of the Kerry campaign. given Obama's performance in the polls, the lack of an incumbent, the trend in the electorate, and the character of the Obama organization, I think you can be comfortable in the expectation that a McCain win in the context of alleged voting irregularities would receive a very different response.

SNL head writer Seth Meyers spoke with Newsday's television blog The TV Zone and put the story to rest, for now: "Of those specific rumors [that Sarah Palin will appear], there's no truth. We do have an open door policy, but there's nothing specific yet, but our window of opportunity is before the election.

i c what u did there

haha

If Palin made an appearance she would get booed. I mean, that's not a friendly crowd we're talking about.

http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/vqsv3i7fzu-nk_eq2zel9g.gif

Palin At The Apollo

please make it happen

i think if she rubbed the tree it'd burn her hand at this point

from here:

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6962/blackpantherlk0.jpg
Barack X Obama (fourth from the right) instructs fellow Islamonegroes in the
finer points of the Electric Slide so that they can infiltrate white people's weddings,
hit on the bridesmaids and make beautiful chocolate babies

slightly offtopic - Lehman CEO Dick Fuld getting beaten up for being such an incompetent asshole

Ha ha ha!

^^

Any bets onto the cost of Paulson's personal security fund? Comparable to Obama's or McCain's? Higher?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/222883.php

^^^

O_O

Maybe a little PTSD rearing its head?

yeah that debate was TORTURE

http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/aguirrecut.jpg

l-r: mccain, electorate