OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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What the fuck, that is the worst obit I've ever read. My composition students could write better.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:00 (one year ago) link

it shows how a legacy can indeed be an important part of ones memory of you.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link

I'm losing my Mind over this bizarre Jump Cut:

If we review his career, we know that he started with Be Bop. His work with Art Blakey was “pace-setting.” But having mastered that he moved on to form his own group, Weather Report. During his stint with his group, his “quest” took him to Jazz Fusion.

J. Sam, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:08 (one year ago) link

Yeah, nothing really happening for ol' Wayne between 1964 and 1970...

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:25 (one year ago) link

lol

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:39 (one year ago) link

Now Mr. Shorter hadn’t just come lately to creating.

https://www.nsmt.org/uploads/1/9/9/5/19956447/nsmt-acc-17-narrator.jpg

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

thread has a winner xps

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:39 (one year ago) link

it’s so bad also because it’s obvious the writer hasn’t even heard of shorter before, but arrogantly and patronizingly tried be all like “I can learn about this person and give a totally informed thoughtful overview”

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 19:50 (one year ago) link

I wouldn't necessarily conclude that--she's a jazz club owner, has probably heard Shorter before. This seems like the only thing she's written for Jazz Times? Maybe not a professional writer.

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

ah ok, the high concept pontificating taking precedence over information confused me

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:05 (one year ago) link

He was recruited for Painting, but was convinced to switch to the music side of the program.

I guess Shorter totally blew them away at the Painting Combine (did a still life in 4.65) but the Music Team head coach really had designs on growing the Clarinet Line.

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:19 (one year ago) link

Laughing out loud...

unknown blues singer (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

just because I was triggered by the beauty of

those “hep Cats”


https://i.pinimg.com/736x/5a/6f/26/5a6f26617f629b79a9318bdcd19c2f49.jpg

Jazz Times magazine changing owners, editor, and dropping staff for this... ugh

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 20:35 (one year ago) link

https://i.postimg.cc/x1m1B0s0/image.png

, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:05 (one year ago) link

Just read the entirety of that Shorter obit on the original site (quoting it here misses the use of bolding to add emphasis, alongside her curious ideas about capitalization and scare quotes). This is like lock thread worthy. Truly and literally the worst piece of music writing ever, at least that has crossed my eyes.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link

my posts on ilx are also a quest to form an expression of eternity.

treeship., Wednesday, 8 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

isn't that in the ilx user agreement?

"all posts must be part of a quest to form an expression of eternity."

it's one of the main reasons i haven't been banned yet iirc.

(but yes, that obit seems kind of "light" coming from "JAZZ TIMES")

.austinuos, plug forth. (Austin), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:07 (one year ago) link

I'm assuming the BeBop Channel Corporation is a CIA front

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front corporation for shredder's hench-warthog

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just interminable

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 25 March 2023 13:59 (one year ago) link

The occasional misspellings of his hero’s name (“Flannagan”) are a perfect touch.

chemtrails over the turkey club (morrisp), Saturday, 25 March 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link

Mike Adams is a High Times Staff writer hailing from the darkest depths of the Armpit of America—Southern Indiana.

oh, it gets darker, Mike

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 25 March 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

look, nothing against the writer on this, who very sensibly left their name off this, but the fact that an article about the "4 Most Essential Led Zeppelin Albums" even exists is really depressing to me.

https://www.discogs.com/digs/music/best-led-zeppelin-albums/

i just wanted to see if lincoln olivetti was involved with the 1983 album by "Brasil Show" (the answer is "no" as far as i can tell)

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link

It looks like the article's author is "Led Zeppelin"

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 14:40 (one year ago) link

I would love to read something critical of boygenius not by Steve Hyden or like something I would have wrote on my Myspace blog when I was in high school: https://constantlyhating.substack.com/p/boygenius-is-insipid-music

Murgatroid, Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:29 (one year ago) link

“No wonder Phoebe Bridgers has so many goddamn stans on Twitter, this is indie music for the pop brain. And you can’t have it both ways! “

Gotta keep em seperated

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Saturday, 1 April 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

If anything I wish it were more poppy!

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

(but I’m on the opposite end of the Greater Millennial timeline, which this writer seems to think is an important point for music reception, so what do I know)

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link

I listened to about half the boygenius album this morning and it's not really for me, but it's fine for what it is. But there's a Slate piece (which I haven't read) with a headline calling them "Rock's Greatest Supergroup" and...just...fuck you. The editor who came up with that should be beaten with a bag of oranges.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

Isn't that by the guy who wrote the Celine Dion book?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 1 April 2023 18:16 (one year ago) link

Yes, and he's a smart guy and a good writer who I like, which is why I don't blame him for the headline. I blame the all-too-typical idiocy of Slate.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

the backlash to this record feels primarily like a backlash to phoebe bridgers, incidentally it also doesn’t feel rooted in the quality of her music but by some ostensible thing she represents

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:02 (one year ago) link

i don’t love the record as much as i wanted to but it’s because my expectations were probably off—these are three songwriters i want to hear write together and there’s only 1-2 instances of that on the record, otherwise these feel like siloed off songs that they brought to each other, which is fine, they’re just very distinct songwriters and thus i feel invited to compare what one offers vs. what another doesn’t. julien baker is prob offering up the best indie rock i’ve heard in a decade, dacus is the best lyricist of the three easy but i prefer when her sound has a little more oomph (historian, an album where EVERY song makes me cry and i don’t even know why), and bridgers is kinda like… in the center of both of these styles without ever seeming to unite them? there that’s my considered takedown of the boygenius record, a record i like

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link

yeah, saw a Twitter thread yesterday that called Phoebe "cringe", which seems p emblematic of the backlash

Murgatroid, Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:23 (one year ago) link

whoops, no, the guy called her "corny"

Murgatroid, Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

Ryan Adams truthers getting their revenge

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 1 April 2023 22:47 (one year ago) link

i wish schoop was better at hating lol, he loves his contrarian hot take pieces but this one especially is so lazy and lacking in substance

ufo, Saturday, 1 April 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link

the backlash to this record feels primarily like a backlash to phoebe bridgers, incidentally it also doesn’t feel rooted in the quality of her music but by some ostensible thing she represents

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, April 1, 2023 5:02 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

typical twitter music discourse. instead of criticizing the music, imagine an annoying person who might like that music and criticize that fake person

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Saturday, 1 April 2023 23:42 (one year ago) link

I’m not familiar with “Schoop” but for someone whose blog URL is “constantlyhating”, that piece was bad at its job and he seems bad at “hating”

I would have loved reading someone whose shtick is taking down hyped up artists maybe a decade ago but now this dude just seems extremely tiresome

Murgatroid, Sunday, 2 April 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link

mostly i just know him from tumblr like a decade ago well before he'd started seriously writing about music. he had a slightly less negative renaissance dunk piece last year too

lazy dunks like this are good at getting attention though, both from people who support the inevitable backlash against the dunk's target but also from people annoyed at how lazy it is

ufo, Sunday, 2 April 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

I can fathom where "indie music for pop fans" is coming from, there's a smoothness to some of Bridgers work that I find offputting... but that was also true of The Postal Service almost 20 years ago and you just have to accept that "indie" hasn't meant anything for American audiences for 30 years so who cares.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 2 April 2023 01:36 (one year ago) link

"mostly i just know him from tumblr like a decade ago well before he'd started seriously writing about music."

lmao seems about right

Murgatroid, Sunday, 2 April 2023 02:27 (one year ago) link

sorry, can't get over how half-assed this backlash is

It’s kind of sad now that white women singer/songwriters are all called like Puny Tyrant and make songs about how having a pebble in your shoe reminds you of being ghosted and all of their fans lie about how that feeling is so real it makes them want to jump off a balcony

— Ben (@perma___ben) April 2, 2023

back in my day, backlashes etc blah blah

Murgatroid, Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:15 (one year ago) link

Music fans always lying about liking music

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:21 (one year ago) link

“Puny Tyrant”(?)

hypnic jerk (morrisp), Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

The way some of those guys write about these female musicians certainly says a lot more about themselves than their targets

omar little, Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

between constantly hating and this dude, their hearts are clearly not in it!

Murgatroid, Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link

Making up a guy to be mad at vs. making up a woman singer-songwriter to be mad at

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link

kind of sad how these guys think pointing out the whiteness of white women makes their gender coded sneering (and their own whiteness, where applicable) less obvious somehow?

Left, Sunday, 2 April 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link


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