rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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people's accents don't magically change upon moving to the Bay Area ... so I think Dan wins.

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

er frogbs wins

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link

there are people who have been here for over 20 years who still use the word "the" to refer to freeways ffs

sarahell, Friday, 24 February 2023 19:58 (one year ago) link

a long time ago I was playing this song in my car without really thinking much about it other than that I liked it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmV3jrVXZ1o

and a friend got in and was like "I think this is racist"

and now after reading this convo and being reminded of that time, when I just looked up to see if they were attempting an actual cover (which they do with a bollywood track on the same album) or just making approximate noises I've found a thai version featuring a thai matishyahu type ska-reggae rapper w/ a handlebar moustache, and yeah it seems like they're just approximating sounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzKyvHk4DU4

Bongo Jongus, Friday, 24 February 2023 20:10 (one year ago) link

I'm snowed in rn btw

Bongo Jongus, Friday, 24 February 2023 20:11 (one year ago) link

they were/are a San Francisco band ... one of the current members is from the South, but he was not in the band at the time of that album which was made several decades ago ..

Homer Flynn is from Louisiana, Hardy Fox was from East Texas. Those two were the main Residents. Jay Clem and John Kennedy were from Louisiana too and ca. "Eskimo", these four made up the Cryptic Corporation. Although they used various musicians over the years there's absolutely no doubt the core members of the Residents were from the South.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 24 February 2023 21:28 (one year ago) link

If you've heard any of them interviewed then I think any doubt that they are from the South would soon be dispelled!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Friday, 24 February 2023 21:30 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5sXoo0N_0I

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 24 February 2023 21:32 (one year ago) link

I assumed it was a big black type thing

― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 24 February 2023 17:33 (yesterday) link

Albini itself translates as small white or white diminutive doesn't it? So always wondered if the bandname was a pun on that.

Stevo, Saturday, 25 February 2023 19:01 (one year ago) link

Albini himself also is white diminutive so ... fitting name lol

sarahell, Saturday, 25 February 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link

Not so much "Is this racist" as "Look at this fuckin' racist," but Scott Adams has just had Dilbert dropped by a bunch of papers because of this

Scott Adams going full racist.

Wonder how many newspapers will be running Dilbert comics on Sunday? pic.twitter.com/E0ZZMbmRTv

— AskAubry 🦝 (@ask_aubry) February 25, 2023

good riddance

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:28 (one year ago) link

getting dropped by USA Today seems big, I hope it hurts him right in his bank account, the only thing that matters to him

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:29 (one year ago) link

Nothing but hate for this cunt

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 February 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

I noticed Dilbert went missing from the local paper today. Made me glad, even though the replacement strip was lousy. I stopped reading Dilbert some time last year as a conscious choice to stop exposing myself to Adams' rotted brain.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 26 February 2023 00:50 (one year ago) link

Argh I am pretty sure I have said this before but: I came from a newspapering family and I studied journalism and I worked at many newspapers (including being responsible for comic selection) and I married a very skilled journalist, etc. I spent four fifths of my life understanding the universe mainly through the funnies.

But even I have let most of my print subscriptions lapse or go digital. As a result, I do not know which comic strips are published and which are not.

Admittedly, Dilbert occasionally made me chuckle a few times during the previous century. But Adams now is one of the most garbagey of garbage humans. I don't even want to give him the satisfaction of canceling him so that he can whine about being canceled. Just, no. For me he no longer exists and I will no longer even bother to excoriate him because that would require acknowledging him and his racist sludge.

nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 26 February 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

Like he isn't even smart enough to just dog whistle, he just said racist shit, and then offered the hilarious defense that he had offered a message of respect earlier

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 February 2023 03:53 (one year ago) link

Emil.y OTM about Eskimo. It's pointedly critical of ethnography as a discipline- how ethnographers insist on establishing a living context only to construct a virtual one in its place; how they adopt analytical perspectives at odds with the people of another culture's outlook. It's very, very smart. It is conceptually complex and its presentation is quite detailed.

And yet for all that, it ultimately belongs to the same tradition of pop-orientalism as the Tiki Room at Disneyland. It's racist for sure. It takes an uncritical interest in that stuff and def 'codes white' along these lines.

OTOH Cochin Moon does something similar (and also makes a similar connection between the otherness of electronic sounds and an exotic landscape).

Holy shit @ Scott Adams

The field divisions are fastened with felicitations. (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 26 February 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link

Just saw that the LA Times is dropping Dilbert.

The Los Angeles Times has decided to cease publication of “Dilbert.” Cartoonist Scott Adams made racist comments in a YouTube livestream Feb. 22, offensive remarks that The Times rejects. It will be discontinued effective Monday in most editions.

nickn, Sunday, 26 February 2023 05:31 (one year ago) link

lol cancelled

your original display name is still visible (Left), Sunday, 26 February 2023 05:53 (one year ago) link

He's going to write a new comic called Wokebert

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 February 2023 06:05 (one year ago) link

He’ll end up at the Daily Wire or somewhere, and in an interview with Ben Shapiro or whoever he’ll explain with some exasperation that he was making a satirical response to a poll he found disturbing. The word “Swiftian” will be used.

Eat Scott Adams

waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Sunday, 26 February 2023 06:23 (one year ago) link

As much dumb sh1t Adams has said over the past 20 years, it took a while for him to finally completely self-immolate his career. Coming next exclusive to Fox Nation most likely…

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 26 February 2023 13:09 (one year ago) link

He'll be fine financially so he's just playing to the chud audience now. Every denunciation he gets from sane people means he raises his profile amongst troglodytes.

So long as he wears our scorn as a badge of honor, and a sign that he's "over the target," I want to give him as little notice as possible, and yet every word I type about him is more fuel and alkjfsd;qoih3gggg!#@%^

nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 26 February 2023 17:58 (one year ago) link

I was at the top of the hidden posts section thinking “phew, this wasn’t bumped for Scott Adams” and then I got to the most recent posts

castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 26 February 2023 18:44 (one year ago) link

There is also an Adams thread, also on fire lately. He's so horrible in so many ways but being racist is is most horrible horribleness so I guess it fits

nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 26 February 2023 18:50 (one year ago) link

** Re: Rema-Rema cover photo, this page says it's a "George Rodger photo of Korongo Nuba tribesmen."

** Re: Sun City Girls' "Soi Cowboy" - the original is from Nok Lae (นกแล) (Discogs link) from the late '80s. Sublime Frequencies included most of it on "Radio Thailand" on the first half of the track titled "Rubber of High Quality" (on Bandcamp here). And here's a YouTube video of a lip-sync performance of that song (which is actually pretty adorable). The YouTube video that Bongo Jongus posted above is the same band, ~30 years later! I asked Alan Bishop about "Soi Cowboy" before a SCG show in 2004, and I remember him saying that they indeed just did a phonetic approximation of the lyrics.

ernestp, Sunday, 26 February 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link

SCG pre formation band featured Moe Tucker. Paris 1942.
Do hope their politics diverge quite heavily.

Stevo, Sunday, 26 February 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link

soy cowboy wojak

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 26 February 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link

Mark: The title Wheel In The Roses was Max's, the sleeve was Mick's. He owned The Last Of The Nuba [a photographic book by Leni Riefenstahl']. The image was intense, there was something in those eyes, an energy, that fitted.

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 27 February 2023 07:14 (one year ago) link

And now Adams has been dropped by his distributor.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/media/dilbert-distributor-scott-adams/index.html

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:04 (one year ago) link

And by his agent and publisher for non-Dilbert stuff...

My publisher for non-Dilbert books has canceled my upcoming book and the entire backlist. Still no disagreement about my point of view. My book agent canceled me too.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) February 27, 2023

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:06 (one year ago) link

he could just fuck off to a mansion on a private beach and invite a couple friends over and say dumb things to them for the rest of his life in peace

z_tbd, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

sorry, just realized i made the thread worse by talking about him

z_tbd, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

I love the "Still no disagreement about my point of view" as if "we are washing our hands of you because of the thing you said" doesn't count as disagreeing

young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:08 (one year ago) link

Well, no one has expressed an interest in *voice coming from a yawning open grave* debating him, so clearly he's right.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link

Uh ...

GEMTECH innovation, Smith & Wesson manufacturing. pic.twitter.com/BuXFvvU1WP

— Smith & Wesson Inc. (@Smith_WessonInc) February 27, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:11 (one year ago) link

xp - What's amazing is that the supportive responses to his tweet are, almost without exception, from idiots that pay for twitter.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

Adams' whole thing is so stupid because it all hinges on the "text vs. subtext" thing that even 3rd graders can understand. it was the same stupid argument that came about when "All Lives Matter" was a thing, or when white supremacists kept flashing the "OK" sign, they clearly do know how this works but I guess you have to be as dense as Scott Adams to think that nobody else in the world does. no wonder he fancies himself a "master persuader"

frogbs, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:28 (one year ago) link

S&W+PB thing is pretty fucked btw, though tbh I have no idea if that's abnormal for gun manufacturers

rob, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:30 (one year ago) link

S&W tweet has been deleted (tho of course easily findable). Surprised they actually care enough to delete it tbh. I feel like "arming you for the coming race war" has been part of the Big Gun marketing pitch for decades.

PB is a designated terrorist group in Canada fwiw

rob, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:54 (one year ago) link

Noodle Vague wrote:

Mark: The title Wheel In The Roses was Max's, the sleeve was Mick's. He owned The Last Of The Nuba [a photographic book by Leni Riefenstahl']. The image was intense, there was something in those eyes, an energy, that fitted.

Thanks for the quote. I did some digging, and it gets interesting, as the photo in question was indeed included in Riefenstahl's 1973 book, but she didn't take the photo, George Rodger did in 1949. (Plenty of sources on the web - here's one, here's another. Aside: I just realized that the first photo on the 1st linked site was used for the 1st Guadalcanal Diary album cover...)

This page says: ...a note on the dustjacket of Riefenstahl’s first book, The Last of The Nuba (1973) credits Rodger’s work for inspiring her: “The author was so fascinated by this photograph taken by the famous English photographer George Rodger [he was a Scot] that for years she tried to find the Nuba in order to study the life of these primitive people.”

Also: For a film project she was planning, Riefenstahl had offered Rodger £1,000 to tell her where he had found the Nuba. With the memories of Belsen-Bergen still fresh in his mind, Rodger refused, but she embarked on the project anyway, which left Rodger extremely bitter.

So regarding the subject of the photo itself: In Korongo Nuba wrestling, the champion is carried on the shoulders of the defeated party in what's known as "the chairing of the victor."

ernestp, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 01:26 (one year ago) link

they PUT IT BACK UP

GEMTECH® innovation, Smith & Wesson® manufacturing.
Perce|eption Brand creates apparel + goods for the tactical athlete. https://t.co/1RDzgMQ6uz pic.twitter.com/7rQ4s478Zl

— Smith & Wesson Inc. (@Smith_WessonInc) February 27, 2023

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

Purseeeepshun brand?

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 02:55 (one year ago) link

"Veteran owned" Perceeption Brand is definitely not a nudge-wink-nod to the Proud Boys AT ALL, why is it always about race with you people.

apart from the guns, the dude in the pic doesn't seem to be packing much below the belt ... idk

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 04:02 (one year ago) link

Aldows Hooxlay's Dours of Perceeption

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 05:08 (one year ago) link


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