Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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what if you like just a fraction of the band's audience, does that mean you can like "4.3 songs" or "the bass lines" or something

― dave q, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

he's conor oberst with a bigger, slightly more improv backing band and a slightly - slightly - lower timbre.

I thought this was the Wesley Willis Fiasco. But whatever.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

Ask the people who select the music they listen to by the type of audience it appeals to.

― Allison, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

(Takes cursory glance at website)

Oh, so the Dave Matthews Band is halfway between Grateful Dead (another band no one in the UK has heard: it's a bit like the way no one knows a single baseball or basketball or American "football" player outside the States) and Moby, right?

Whoa! They sell flipflops! Just in time for summer, too. Now, why didn't Careless Talk think of that? PS: Ned, I need your column specially early this issue. Like next week.

― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

More like halfway between Medeski, Martin and Wood and G. Love and Special Sauce.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

Or Bela Fleck and Leo Sayer.

― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

Ack. Okay, Jerry, but please send me a followup reminder via e-mail or I'll never get it done!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, and "the guy sings like a Muppet" is hardly a criticism.

So does Neil Young - Kermit

― Jerry (Jerry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 17:04 (twenty years ago) link

Ask the people who select the music they listen to by the type of audience it appeals to.

You're really hung up on that, aren't you.

Dave Matthews Band is halfway between...

I'd say they're in some hellish middle-ground between Manheim Steamroller, Jimmy Buffett and Kansas.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, and "the guy sings like a Muppet" is hardly a criticism.

So does Neil Young - Kermit

I don't remember ever saying I liked Neil Young.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, you guys started it.

― allison, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

No, I believe "John McAteer" started it.

― J (Jay), Tuesday, 17 June 2003 22:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yes Sir...

― allison, Tuesday, 17 June 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link

Taking Sides: Momus Vs Dave Matthews Band

― Rambo, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

i hate the dave matthews band because their bassist's dad is a really unreliable guitar tech. he had my guitar for 4 months and didn't fix it.

― brains (cerybut), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

Well now...there's yet another well-founded rationale. I applaud you for being so profound and equitable in your reasoning.

Stay tuned folks...Allison's brain is once again on the brink of destruction.

― Allison, Wednesday, 18 June 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

::yawn:::

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link

and in the sequel he sings "I've seen a million coochies/ and I've rocked them all."

This shouldnt've been ignored.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 03:00 (twenty years ago) link

Well now...there's yet another well-founded rationale. I applaud you for being so profound and equitable in your reasoning.
Allison...is there a single answer in the universe that you *would* accept as perfectly legitimate?

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 19 June 2003 10:45 (twenty years ago) link

I think Allison should become an ILX regular.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:30 (twenty years ago) link

"Gooba Gabba, Gooba Gabba, We Accept You, We Accept You! Gooba Gabba, Gooba Gabba, One of Us, One of Us!"

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 19 June 2003 11:35 (twenty years ago) link

Ahh...see, that's what you get when you don't pay attention. If you look back, you'll notice that the question in question has already been questioned =P

― Allison, Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:21 (twenty years ago) link

You all need to get LIVES. John Mayer sucks 100% and Dave Matthews Band is a group who are a lot more talented then other bands out there. I just wanted to tell you haters out there to get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are all fake and all of you out there all. We are all from something else. You all who hate DMB don't even know what you are talking about. Your proboly a bunch of non comformists who conform yes I mean you goth people and whatever else you all are. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!

― Margaret Smith, Thursday, 26 June 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

Ah, to be 11 again...

― Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 26 June 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.fallonfey.com/images/ianmckellen1.jpg

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 26 June 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

Hmm...I believe that comment cancelled out everything I said about the majority of their fans not being half retarded. Er...thanks.

― Allison, Saturday, 28 June 2003 02:27 (twenty years ago) link

Allison, you officially rock.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 28 June 2003 02:32 (twenty years ago) link

Well, they just kinda suck, don't they ? Jocks should really be content to strum Doors' shit in their dorm rooms, go through flitting Jim Morrison infatuations the first couple of weeks after they first get bent, and be good paying customers at Ben Harper gigs.

― TripVanJangle (TripVanJangle), Saturday, 28 June 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

here we are again at square 1!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Saturday, 28 June 2003 03:55 (twenty years ago) link

*sigh* that we are...

― Allison, Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

It's not even a very interesting square!

― Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

More a trapezoid.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Trapezoids are way cooler than squares.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

What if it was a self-consciously dorky trapezoid?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

a rhombus then

― maura (maura), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

Parallelograms roxx u r all obtuse angles.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:22 (twenty years ago) link

the word 'rhombus' also has that world music feel so it fits perfectly

which brings me to the question of course that is always at the forefront of my dmb thought process (when i'm not thinking about the ways 'crash' encapsulates everything that is wrong with white middle class universities in the states) -- is dave matthews the fault of 'in your eyes'?

― maura (maura), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:26 (twenty years ago) link

er...crash the song, or crash the album?

― allison, Sunday, 29 June 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

Dave Matthews owes more to Phil Collins, I think, than Peter Gabriel

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 29 June 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

u hataz gotta drop da hate u get me? ther is lots of diffrent types of music out there if u dont like sumthing den y not just ignore it insted of hatin. the best thing about music is dere is loads of types of diffrent music n u jus gotta find da 1 dat u like best instead of jus wastin time hatin an ting u get me? nuff time dave matthews band r messy but dey aint really my ting u get me? but i aint gonna go on a internet message board n be all like hatin an ting when dere is obviously lots of peeps who r feelin dave matthews n tink he is grimy u should jus respect dat an drop da hate u get me? at least he is makin music off his butt an ting an not jus hatin which is more than u lots have dun innit. xXxladyfirexXx

― LaDy FiRe, Sunday, 29 June 2003 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

i meant crash the song, specifically the 'hike up your skirt a little more' line.

and lady fire -- you know if it was POSSIBLE to ignore dave matthews more than i already do, i would. and how do you know what i do with my spare time anyway.

― maura (maura), Sunday, 29 June 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

u hataz gotta drop da hate u get me?

Lady Fire, the prince of peace.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 29 June 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link

We've already discussed the hike up your skirt line. It's a beautiful song with beautiful lyrics that weren't written to be interpreted as degrating to women. Actually, the song is about the worship of women (as a lot of their songs are) and those who can't understand that it wasn't intended to be ill-mannered, but really just the opposite, are blowing it WAY out of proportion.

I'm confused..is "grimy" and "messy" a good thing?

― Allison, Sunday, 29 June 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

is putting women on a pedestal and putting women in the gutter the same thing?

― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 29 June 2003 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

Putting women on a pedestal is better because then you can look up their dress 'n shit.

― nickn (nickn), Sunday, 29 June 2003 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

is "grimy" and "messy" a good thing?

Have you ever seen mudwrestling? It's the bomb!

― Millar (Millar), Sunday, 29 June 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

that's the beauty of 'beauty' allison -- it's in the eye of the beholder. and this beholder's eye, which is also admittedly way too distracted to catch up on 800-plus (!!!) posts while she's at work, sees your 'beautiful lyrics' as ones that were written by the ham-hock hand of one of those coffeehouse singers, you know, the really sensitive ones who love to sing ooh baby baby you are so lovely through the thick-smoke haze but whose outlook on life is, let's face it, much more attuned to the male gaze as filtered through the girls gone wild (hey man they're just showing their INNER BEAUTY!!) lens

― maura (maura), Monday, 30 June 2003 03:23 (twenty years ago) link

Dave Matthews Band is the best band ever. Their music is the best there is. DMB is full of musical talent and Dave himself is the sexiest man alive!!!

― Kara Kilduff, Monday, 30 June 2003 19:37 (twenty years ago) link

ah, the sunkissedtulips of my youth.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 30 June 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

you're just not funny

― oops (Oops), Monday, 30 June 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

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