Because why not: Roger Fidelity's own election day thread, one to the public

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You freely admit you are voting in this (and i know you'll hate this) flip-flopper, this opportunistic, condescending mystery man, based soley on the fact that he ISN'T someone else?

Let me tell you a story.

My coworker Tom is Massachusetts born and raised. Known about Kerry pretty much all his life as a result. Way back earlier this year, I asked him about Kerry and what his exact profile was, what he was like, was he well loved, etc. And Tom's point was a simple but effective one:

"Kerry isn't elected because a lot of people really like him. He's elected because the other guy is always worse."

It's looking like that's what's going to happen here. And if the choice is quite simply the difference between two evils in the end, I will choose what I believe is the lesser.

To my mind, Bush answers for much. He answers for ignorance, willful ignorance, in questions of science on a national level. He answers for shallowness, in the sense that 'taking a stand' becomes 'never moving from it.' He answers for lack of responsibilty, for blaming everything that could happen in his administration and to his administration on others than who he picked, approved of, defended. He answers for incompetence as demonstrated in the haphazard idiocy that is the Iraq invasion and occupation, where political expediency constantly came to the fore first and foremost with dire and continuing consequences. He answers for bigotry with the support of the FMA, one of the most pernicious and revolting ideas ever seriously considered to be enshrined as a *core part of the Constitution.*

He answers for the dead. He answers for all the dead. He answers for them all and he can only find an answer by proclaiming that because Saddam and Osama and the like are, inarguably, murderers he himself is a stainless white knight, pure and wonderful and never ever EVER wrong.

He answers for saying "Bring them on." And now how many of my fellow citizens are dead, maimed, have lost friends and lovers and spouses and parents and children? And how many in Iraq found that the land of milk and honey promised by an adminstration that placed its faith in inaccurate intelligence, in political operators, in pie-in-the-sky dreams, is in fact less that now?

He answers for that and so much more. Hopefully he will answer tonight. If not, a pity. But he will answer. And by god if I won't feel the greatest satisfaction seeing him and all the lickspittle buttkissing power-worshipping ignorance-encouraging toadies that tried to ride every coattail of his no matter what price principles or their souls suffer in the answering.

Let them burn.

If Kerry fails more spectacularly on all these kinds of fronts, let him burn too. But the hunch, right now, is that he would not. He is yet untested in the role. Bush is. AND LET HIM BURN.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

so, I don't get it. You all agree with me? You freely admit you are voting in this (and i know you'll hate this) flip-flopper, this opportunistic, condescending mystery man, based soley on the fact that he ISN'T someone else?

I know, it kind of sucks, but what do you do? Andrea Dworkin had a piece in the Guardian on Monday saying how much she deplored lesser-of-two-evils politics, but that this time, she was voting for Kerry on exactly that basis. She came across like a pretty pompous hypocrite, actually.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Who was it that called Libertarians the "Now that we're grown up, we can eat ice cream for DINNER if we want to!" party? That's pretty genius.

Badnarik is a joke. Look over his website, please. If the impassioned endorsement from Doug "Host of 'The Man Show'" Stanhope on page 1 doesn't convince you that Badnarik is a true champ, a quick scan through his absolutely idiotic takes on gun control and law enforcement should do the trick.

And as for this:
"Come on, folks, you're smarter than this"...

Roger, you've talked about your love for Ann Coulter on this board. Give me a fucking break.

Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, I liked that post, Ned.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

You realize that that photo of him 'hunting,' itself an obvious ploy to 'appeal' to sportsmen, was taken with him holding a gun that the assault weapons ban would essentially make unavailable to anyone?

really? they're going after two-barrel shotguns with the assault weapons ban? or was he using a full-auto AR15? or are you full of crap?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Did Roger just say up there that he's marrying his grandmother?

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

enjoy your tax hike, Mr Rogers

I don't make 200K or own a cardigan. Am I a pansy-ass liberal? I am whatever you say I am.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck schumer just won the NY senate. glad i left that awful place

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link

$104 million went into 'advertising' in Ohio for this fiasco

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure everyone of all political persuasion agrees too much is spent on this.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

otm

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.economist.com/images/20041030/20041030issuecov.jpg

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah--not the incompetent, please

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Swisher Sweets. Mmmmmmmmm...

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Clearly Roger voted 80 million times.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

You mena Badnarik is winning?

you bitter bastard. This is your precious democracy in action. Lap it up, brother!

There's a part of me that LOVES chaos. Being on a sinking ship excites me in a perverse way. That's why I'm laughing so hard - not at any of you, per se - but at this entire catastrophic situation.

I mean, really, personal opinions aside - what a disaster!

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Git.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd argue further but CLEARLY WE'LL ALL BE DEAD SOON.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Holy christ Jenna Bush is SO superhot

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck off, look at the thing she came from.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Would you shag a lump of fresh poo? No. Same deal.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link

NBC projecting Kerry to win Penn.

papa november (papa november), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Bush is totally taking Ohio. I think it's over, folks. For better or worse.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link

look for me as the next american al qaeda

LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd be offended if I thought you had the balls you pussy

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link

God.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link

It's one thing to wish death on Roger's mum, but trashing his threads? Come on.

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link

How bald will Jon be in 2008? We can watch cartoons on his head by then I bet!

Mary H Christ, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I must remember this tactic next time I disagree with somebody.

erm, moderator?

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm on Roger's side*, please clear away the silly nonsense pictures.

* AAGH OMG KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME

Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link

wait, is roger american?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link

He's a gypsy

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link

no way, you're kidding! he doesnt seem like an american to me. he calls people pussy all the time and is very interested in whether people have balls or not. that doesnt seem very american!

*@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link

have you seen his photograph?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.nesplayer.com/Goonies/movie/Fratellis/sloth.jpg

LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant the bad one.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link

post of the year, that is

xpost - not that one, the one before

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.smithdairy.com/files/upload/s-rockyroad-pic.jpg

LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

though i do see where he is coming from. on occasion, i have been a little bemused by the hivemind thing that goes on here, people disagreeing with me, all banding together and stuff. im a working man too, i dont like how those people all disagree with me sometimes. who do they think they are? sometimes, i tell you, i feel like the only one to tell it like it is. well, aside from roger, anyway

*@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link

roger called me a pussy liberal i get mad and make fun of him

LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I am glad, we're allowed guns.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:42 (nineteen years ago) link

are you glad because we're allowed guns?

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, I am. aren't you?

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think i am glad, no.

did you see the Rich Hall thing on BBC2 last night? that independent guy (forget which state) talking about how 'people should be allowed F-16 rocket launchers as long as they're used responsibly, and no-one is hurt. we should have them for if the government tries to turn us into slaves'

a pot not so much cracked as blasted into a trillion smithereens, and as far as i could tell, despite Hall's sharp wise-cracks, for real.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, and the guy that said europe should be airdropping food, to whichever state they were in.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/?041101ta_talk_editors

the editors, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

and the guy that said europe should be airdropping food, to whichever state they were in.

oh my yes. it answered a lot of questions (more than Moore - if only Hall was as 'commercially popular' as Moore).

then threw up a thousand more.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link


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