C or D:: the Guess Who

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A compilation of all the weird stuff on their albums would be one of the stranger artifacts of the era. Artificial Paradise from 1973 is the band spending 40 minutes circumnavigating commercial expectations (except for one conventionally rocking single), ending with "The Watcher", which sounds to me like a Zappa/Rundgren pastiche:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmG9qhrxqSQ

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 24 October 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

God, I used to own that. (Starting with Rockin', Guess Who LPs were in remainder bins everywhere by 1980 or so.) "Follow Your Daughter Home"'s on that one, right?

clemenza, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Yes, more flute! Half of the songs don't even feature Cummings on lead vocal, and one of the ones that does is in Zulu, 13 years earlier than Paul Simon.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

this “jazzy” (not really) sound like Blood Sweat and Tears complete with a swingin’ singer I could picture on the nightclub stage snapping his fingers, but the lyrics were BLEAK: disillusionment, loss, a complete breakdown.

"Undun" is one of my absolute favorite songs, and this gets at why. To my ears the lyrical bleakness extends to the music, but only partway; the vibe is ominously swingin' with flashes of light (that flute solo!) rather than completely dark.

Just a great, great singles band. I've never really dug into the albums, so I should probably get on that...

J. Sam, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

FWIW, Kurt Elling's cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxULVThP7jc

Quite a few people think it's one of his best albums (I think Penguin Guide in its last edition?) and there are others who think the album took Elling in a wrong direction, like he decided he wanted to sell more records (Howard Reich). I don't think it's his most adventurous work, but on its own terms it's very good. Elling also loves and understands Sinatra, and to me, it feels like Elling doing the kind of album Sinatra theoretically could have made if he lived and his health and talents held up while he continued to make classic vocal pop into the '00s.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

Kurt is a great vocalist and can seemingly sing anything he chooses to and doesn't seem to make weird choices. Now that I think of it one time I contacted his people about one of the tunes on his Brill Building album and why it was on there.

2-4-6-8 Motor Away (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 15:11 (one year ago) link

Where is the love for “Heartbroken Bopper”?

2-4-6-8 Motor Away (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Not that I have any. Title is bad and track sounds like an Aerosmith clone.

2-4-6-8 Motor Away (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 October 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

Clemenza OTM above re: the '71 singles. I get obsessed with 'Sour Suite' every six months or so (or whenever I go through Indianapolis, the '46201' referred to in the song).

The circa-'00 _Runnin' Back Through Canada_ live double is surprisingly good -- Randy Bachman is along and some of the better BTO songs are sprinkled in.

Jeff Wright, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I like "Sour Suite" too, and there even a fourth good one, "Broken."

clemenza, Tuesday, 25 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

No time for the killing floor

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 December 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

the "guess who" discover 1989.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L08p0n1BFJ4

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 May 2023 11:38 (eleven months ago) link

this upon discovering that they and orleans are playing at the nearby tilles center, top ticket $70, and wondering who the heck are in the guess who these days. the drummer, if you're curious.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 7 May 2023 13:40 (eleven months ago) link

yes, that's totally normal i think? i just wish we had another word for it because crush is typically associated with romantic attraction that does involve kissing etc.

Crunching?
A compilation of all the weird stuff on their albums would be one of the stranger artifacts of the era. _Artificial Paradise_ from 1973 is the band spending 40 minutes circumnavigating commercial expectations (except for one conventionally rocking single), ending with "The Watcher", which sounds to me like a Zappa/Rundgren pastiche:

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Playlist please

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 7 May 2023 16:32 (eleven months ago) link

Whoops, ignore first quoted thing there

And just produce the weird playlist kthx

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Sunday, 7 May 2023 16:33 (eleven months ago) link

Okay, but a lot of the weird stuff is stranger in the album context - like spreading lead vocals around between half a dozen members on various songs when you have Burton Cummings sitting there, or putting these unusual tracks in between run-of-the-mill 50s pastiches and lounge-style piano ballads (although some of the latter are really exceptional).
Anyway, here's a chronological list from the albums I've heard:

Friends of Mine
Maple Fudge
Fair Warning
Hi Rockers medley
Truckin' Off Across the Sky
Samantha's Living Room
Those Show Biz Shoes
Hamba Gahle-Usalang Gahle
The Watcher
Glamour Boy
One Way Road to Hell

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 May 2023 21:21 (eleven months ago) link

Some album tracks I at least used to like/love.

"A Wednesday in Your Garden"
"8:15"
"Do You Miss Me Darlin'?"
"Coming Down Off the Money Bag"/"Song of the Dog"
"Herbert's a Loser"

Most of their greatest songs were singles.

clemenza, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 00:49 (eleven months ago) link

Sure, I could come up with another album's worth of "deep tracks" that I love (probably heavy with Burton ballads), but I was spotlighting the weird stuff that I mentioned a few months ago.
Of the songs you mentioned "A Wednesday in Your Garden" is an excellent psychedelic jazz thing, and "Do You Miss Me Darlin'?" is probably regarded as a single now due to appearing on several compilations.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 14:25 (eleven months ago) link

You're a bigger fan of the non-singles than I am. I scrolled through their albums up till Flavours (almost all of which I owned at one time) and that's all that jumped out at me.

clemenza, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 01:28 (eleven months ago) link

six months pass...

https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/burton-cummings-randy-bachman-sue-former-guess-who-bandmates-over-use-of-name-1.6628569

You know, I took it to heart when they told us to share the land, so this is very disappointing.

clemenza, Friday, 10 November 2023 19:39 (five months ago) link

If it's any consolation to Bachman, the name BTO probably has more monetary value than the Guess Who.

birdistheword, Friday, 10 November 2023 19:55 (five months ago) link

This is the most generic story imaginable--rock stars sue former bandmates--it's just funny to see Cummings and Bachman on the same side. They feuded for years. Not that that's unusual either.

https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/music/randy-bachman-writes-about-split-with-burton-cummings/article_5938f364-7e7f-5223-828a-14e54fc58a82.html

clemenza, Friday, 10 November 2023 20:01 (five months ago) link

Using Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship as a precedent, judge rules that one party may continue as the Guess Who, while the other must henceforth use "the Who." More lawsuits ensue.

clemenza, Friday, 10 November 2023 22:35 (five months ago) link

Bachman sued his own brother/bandmate, this is no big deal for him.
He and Cummings could provide case histories for a whole semester’s worth of music business horror stories like these.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 11 November 2023 02:53 (five months ago) link


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