Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

i'm glad MIA talked about some of the concerns with crypto, particularly how if too many people get wallets there could be storage difficulties

I like when she mixed up the global reserve currency with the gold standard

I'm doing an experiment right now where I'm being a pagan polytheist because I have this theory that before the rise of monotheism, society was a lot better.

Feel bad clowning them because both have crested music I have truly loved, music that has benefited my life. But this interview is like sheesh

MIA just wrote a lyric for Common People

Grimes was literally just doing tons of research.

I have to say that my brain is still in recovery mode from taking in so many high level, important ideas

Back-alley plaque scrapings to better understand the basic folk

both of these people had the kind of success that brings out airhead corporate adorers

m.i.a. married a bronfman, grimes had kids with musk

people get their brains mushified by the echo-chamber

this might be way too complex for ilxor’s ilm forum, because they’re trying to solve the world.

I'll be honest, if they dropped a joint album, I'd give it a listen

an accurate assessment

"dirty work" is the radiohead creep of the steely dan catalogue

— ｂｏｏｓ (@bosscrood) October 19, 2022

oops, good luck figuring out what this has to do with the thread topic

m.i.a. did not, in fact, marry that bronfman! they were engaged, though

oh! my mistake! a kid together

mia looking incredible at 47

Well duh, she’s not been vaxxed

what a cool person

pic.twitter.com/Fmnn80xS5f

— music struggles (@musicstruggles1) January 30, 2023

you've lost your goddamn mind if you find yourself typing "lebensraum" into the twitter text field sheesh

I read Caroline Polachek has a guest spot for Dido on her new album and got all excited and it turns out fucking grimes is not only on the album but on the same track.

I hate that I thought these two were cool persons a decade ago.

It's always disappointing when a favorite artist that represented where the music should/will go begins to slip, but I feel like more and more of them lately are just falling off a cliff in all the worst ways.

https://reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/12lzl9v/warning_graphic_grimes_likes_total_nier_death/

Uhhhhh not clicking further, but from the url I thought it would be something about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nier:_Automata :(

That Avengers scene where Hawkeye and Black Widow are fighting to throw themselves off a cliff, except it's Elon Musk and Grimes and the cliff is Nazism

— Michael Stewart (@m_r_stewart) April 14, 2023

Why is she a white supremacist now? The fuck?

Trite response but seriously. It is very odd that both kanye and grimes became hitler apologists

I still love this song, without reservation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yji6m9R75jQ

I try to just forget that she continued on after ‘15 or so

(And, no, I hadn’t seen what this thread revive was about)

sigh

She is a very gifted musician but clearly a person of poor character.

realiti (demo) so much better than anything else post visions

Still don’t see what’s so great about that song

“Oblivion” was my jam… I’ve never really gotten the “Realiti” love either.

(to each their own, of course)

Flesh without blood, from art angels, is her best song imo. I love the ethereal gothic early sound but I also like the hyperpop that succeeded it. I dislike how her personality and beliefs seem to have changed since art angels though.

even as a huge fan of miss anthropocene imo she was always like this sorry

I guess I didn’t follow her enough to know she’d be the type to retweet neo-nazis

Never thought her music suffered any drop in quality even as she herself perhaps did. Miss anthropocene wasn't quite as good as art angels or visions but not too far off, it bears repeat listening for me.

The Reddit post seems to have been removed. I glanced at her account, it looks like mainly AI shit. Not that I would necessarily recognize crypto-N4zi stuff if I saw it but… are we sure this is legit accusation?

(I believe it if you say yes, I didn’t delve into who she’s following or anything)

I don't like the idea that she irl hangs mostly with the worst kind of online shitposters but maybe it's true idk. Her trajectory hasn't been inspiring from a distance.

she’s just like a complete woo-woo ass person who would align herself with whatever since whenever, idk what else to tell you

Art-pop Joe Rogan

Brad nailed it.

Earlier on it was easier to ignore the extra-curricular stuff though, for reasons too voluminous to recount

difference is she used to be embarrassing in a somewhat endearing way (the houseboat story, constantly saying ridiculous stuff in interviews etc.) and at least positioned herself as fairly progressive (despite the techno-libertarian thread that was always there - she was always the sort of idiot who'd be super into cryptocurrency). her trajectory isn't that surprising given the techno-libertarian stuff but it's still quite a shift to be hanging out with crypto-fascist rationalists, thiel-funded neo-nazis etc. now.

she seems to have largely lost interest in music though (lol at her releasing only two songs on columbia), i doubt she'll get around to actually finishing another album anytime soon

In December 2022, Grimes attended a holiday fundraising party for the San Francisco political think tank and magazine Palladium, which was founded by the Neo Nazi activist Jonah Bennett. Palladium receives much of its capital investment from Peter Thiel, whose Hereticon “free speech” conservative conference (a haven for hate speech) Grimes had also previously done a private DJ set for, in January 2022. Grimes publicly tweeted about her participation in both Hereticon and the Palladium party, so it has been confirmed from the horse’s mouth. Also, there were many pictures of her at the Palladium party shared by the editors of Palladium and then retweeted by Grimes. These pictures show Grimes together with her own friends who also attended, and some show the magazine’s current editors (not Bennett, but close associates of him, most notably Wolf Tivy) who she frequently interacted with on twitter in the weeks after the party (they were also mutuals). Jonah Bennett himself also appears to have attended the party, despite not being pictured together with Grimes, as he retweeted one of the other Palladium editors’ tweet celebrating the importance of Grimes attending the party and showing how far Palladium has come to gain such a prominent artist’s support.
One of Grimes’s tweets was also celebrating these guys as being part of what she tone deafly called a “schizzo (sic) posting” club, suggesting she was also a “schizzo poster” herself on her alt twitter accounts. On her main account, despite all the cringe, she rarely tweets anything directly inflammatory or redpilled, except that time she tweeted a “joke” about lebensraum on Holocaust Remembrance Day, but sometimes (accidentally?) she has used her public account to like others’ tweets of a hateful nature. One of the accounts whose tweets she liked most frequently is called The Hellenist, which she also follows. Hellenist is a straight up racist and fascist account, which tweets about the penis size of different races and how Ancient Rome met its downfall because it made the mistake of “following the Jews” in Hellenist’s eyes (ancient Greece, apparently, did not—whatever that even means). The identity of the account is unknown (if I had to take a guess, one of her irl close acquaintances, or possibly even Elon Musk or Jonah Bennett) but some of her out in the open friends, including the squad of besties she’s had over the past couple of years—Aella, Lan Dao and Liv Boeree—also tweet redpilled content and content promoting big business and conservative forms of religion, opposing Black rights and struggles, opposing LGBTQ rights and even opposing feminism and endorsing patriarchy, a total inversion of what used to be Grimes’ signature public issue.
Grimes has also been exploring eugenics. The celebrity eugenics couple from Connecticut, the Collinses, had an extensive interview with Business Insider last year. The piece painted an incredibly disturbing picture of what the Collinses are all about, but it stuck to facts and didn’t editorialize, earning the praise of the Collinses themselves, who called the article very accurate. This is relevant to Grimes because she receives a mention in the article—the Collinses tell the journalist that Grimes reached out to their group seeking to get involved in the cause of eugenics. Grimes nor the Collinses did not ever deny that this occurred. It also fits with some of her own public statements supporting “the Mission.” The Mission is a cult created by Elon Musk with a mission of breeding a superior race of humans on Mars. Grimes, although no longer involved romantically with Musk, recently said promoting the Mission is now her main purpose in life, describing music as a mere “side quest.”

This is a comment on the popheads subreddit. No receipts but some of these claims are easily googleable and true

https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/12yyuey/grimes_splits_with_columbia_records/

The nepo babies she’s friends with nowadays and who she interacts with both live and in twitter do seem to post some very questionable content in twitter.

If it walks like a duck…

She has proved time and time again that she’s super shallow and volatile when it comes to her views and unfortunately she loves expressing it. Good musician/producer but the more spotlight she gets the less likeable she becomes and that’s been true for over a decade. Hanging out with the shittiest, uncoolest elite doesn’t help her case.